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 aracersss wrote:
I seriously doubt the exalted sorcerers will be the norm for the other two patrons ... it was just convenient with TS

Not so much a box of three Sorcerers, just something along the same sort of contents (a small-sized unit of highly detailed models for roughly the same price band).

Carlovonsexron wrote:
I'd also like a return to the Diaz daemonette aesthetics.

I think we need to accept that this just isn't going to happen. The current Daemonette kits are a lock and will be for a very long time. They're not about to redesign them for a new release. They had their plastic release, and that's it. Now we're just waiting for a box'o'Fiends, preferably with 3 in the box.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And indeed plastic Noise Marines in general - where more than one of them gets the signature weapon. That'd be nice.

If the 1KSons kit can come with a flamer for every model, a Noise Marine kit can come with a Sonic Blaster for every model. With luck it'll have two Blastmasters as well, so we can finally do a Havoc Squad with 4 of them (2 boxes - 4 in one box would be unrealistic).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:
I'd also like a return to the Diaz daemonette aesthetics.

I think we need to accept that this just isn't going to happen. The current Daemonette kits are a lock and will be for a very long time. They're not about to redesign them for a new release. They had their plastic release, and that's it. Now we're just waiting for a box'o'Fiends, preferably with 3 in the box.

I agree in that it's unrealistic to expect that to happen, and I don't honestly think it will happen, but it is something I still want

There is part of me that hopes them doing the made to order deamonettes sent them a positive message about the demand for them though.

In any case, I do expect the eventual Slaanesh release to be a big one, and have some surprises.

FFS its mid April, when are we gonna see something new on this. Im glad they are showing stuff early, but Im sitting here holding on to the money for one of everything and I am trying to keep my wife from spending it.

I'd expect the 3 fiends in a box to be the similar box set to the exalted sorcs. Tzeentch didn't need that with its screamers; they were already plastic and are awesome. Fiends and Plague Beasts both need that treatment. It's an easy marketing decision. I've had a full Daemon army since the beginning...and I've never had a BoN in. Why? Cuz the models suck. I'd buy new ones in plastic!!

Hello everyone, I am super pumped for these new releases. I can hardly hold on to my seat.

A couple of things for people who look poorly on some of the aspects:

These look too mutated

Death Guard are not for you, congratulations on saving money

The paint job isn't the way I personally like it, therefore I am liking this release less

Umm.. paint it differently?
The way these are painted shows off the detail properly.

I don't like that they are all mark III!!!!

They hardly look like mark three, and nothing is stopping you kit bashing your other marks in


It has been a while since I have been on this site, and this thread reminded me why. Rather than talking about the release, there is instant negativity based on 4 pictures.
There is whining how it doesn't suit your personal army.
There is whinging about the aethetics.

Wait for full release, and buy it or don't.


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 redleger wrote:
FFS its mid April, when are we gonna see something new on this. Im glad they are showing stuff early, but Im sitting here holding on to the money for one of everything and I am trying to keep my wife from spending it.

Haha the struggle is real.
Open another bank account and transfer the money in to there

Probably not until 8th drops?

Yeah, Skydorfs are the focus now. Once they're done we can get onto the Death Guard.

GW's Warhammer Fest in May includes a Death Guard painting seminar. It is quite unlikely they will not have released or have begun to release the new DG models at this point.

Livery of Corruption – Painting the Death Guard.

Tips, tricks and ‘Eavy Metal Painting Demonstration of Death Guard Chaos Space Marines

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/02/eavy-metal-at-warhammer-fest/

So mid of May (similiar to Kharadrons) would be my guess. Maybe even earlier, with info in the next WD. Warhammer Fest is on the 27th and 28th of May.


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 Gamgee wrote:
Probably not until 8th drops?

Before 8th from what we know so far. 8th seems to be in June if those rumors (via PizzaGuardian and others) were correct

I think we'll get an update next week. It's been three weeks since the rumour first dropped, GW shouldn't leave it more than a month before teasing us again.

Money sitting waiting for this release! Can't wait to see if we get plague terminators, typhus and mortarion. Hope mortarion isn't 650 points though!

The WD editor was supposed to be on the Thursday Twitch. Did they drop any hints of the next issue?

But not long anyone, only week after next till WD I believe.

I will turn stark raving mad if I can't have any DG before mid-May. They should have released the dwarfs early April and the DG early May. Late April would also work. After mid-May it'd be hugely impractical for me.

The Overlords might even get THREE weeks of releases (one char, one ship and one unit down week 1, two chars,two ships and two units to go). Sucks. I want some dwarfs, but I really, really, really want Death Guard in my last long semester break - which ends mid-May.

I can't take this anymore. Every free moment I get during the day I check the internet for Death Guard. Where are they?

I'm withering. I'm hollowing. Somebody save me :(

I wonder if it will literally just be their update or May will have a new campaign book much like WoM, which I am guessing is likely since it will be weird to just 'Hey Mortarion's back!'

This excites me further.

 SirDigby wrote:
I can't take this anymore. Every free moment I get during the day I check the internet for Death Guard. Where are they?

I'm withering. I'm hollowing. Somebody save me :(

This is me.

I can't even afford them at the moment, I just need to see them all!

lets fill our time with discussing potential rules...

Plague terminators?

Mortarion?

Thoughts

We usually get a little tease on Sundays don't we but obviously considering the day I hope they have the day off.

I hope the marines have a shroud that applies debuffs to assault peeps or something.

Edit: I am mostly looking forward to the mutant rabble.....err I mean nurgle cultist kit.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
We usually get a little tease on Sundays don't we but obviously considering the day I hope they have the day off.

I hope the marines have a shroud that applies debuffs to assault peeps or something.

Edit: I am mostly looking forward to the mutant rabble.....err I mean nurgle cultist kit.

I think they will make some Awesome Scavvys

Loyal mutants herded into enemy guns (IG Whiteshields), vanilla chaos mutants, Scavvies, ash waste rad mutants...this kid will be so good.

 Xeones7 wrote:
lets fill our time with discussing potential rules...

Plague terminators?

Mortarion?

Thoughts

In a perfect world I'd love to be able to purchase specific 'disease' upgrades for each entry, much like oldschool Tyranid biomorphs or the ye olde daemonic rewards... but it seems the rules have moved away from that level of customization.

I'm guessing the Plague Terminators will just be like regular Death Guard Terminators, but with access to some chemical weapons? It would be totally amazing if we get suped-up Nurgle blessed Deathshroud and Grave Wardens though.

I tend to get my hopes up too high when it comes to Chaos though. I'm sure they'll be good, but the longer we're left waiting the more my wishlist grows.

Edit: It'd also be awesome to get some kind of Plague Chaplain/Dark Apostle/Nurgle Priest to boost nearby FNP.

I'm so excited about this that I'll sell my house to have enough money to buy all the Nurgle stuff several dozen times.

 SirDigby wrote:
I can't take this anymore. Every free moment I get during the day I check the internet for Death Guard. Where are they?

I'm withering. I'm hollowing. Somebody save me :(

I think GW should keep all releases hidden until preorder day, it would save so much teeth-gnashing.

Teeth gnashing = hype train! I like it way better this way, and I think it works well for GW, too.

What is the scale of these new guys compared to the old?

I have a gak cult of Nurgle lead by an Priest-orator, a Demon Prince, and a chaos spawn. Have a pretty good load out of Death guard from back in the day in metals, as well. Would be sweet to add in to the new guys squads. Additionally, those new figures are generally top drawer from what I see so far. any guess on the cultist set, as to how many are coming in a box? 10- or 8?

 Xeones7 wrote:
lets fill our time with discussing potential rules...

Plague terminators?

Mortarion?

Thoughts

Morty
FMC, 7s for stats (except Init 5-6), 2+4++, ML3, EW, FNP, IWND, Hatred/Preferred enemy Tzeentch/GK, and his artifact scythe (S+2 or 3, Ap2, 2handed, 6s to wound at D str, maybe penalizes enemy Init or Toughness). Nurgle, Plague, and maybe Biomancy disciplines, with a unique power. Rerolls FNP, and has an aura that makes terrain difficult/dangerous

5-600 pts

Just spitballin.

Not sure Mortarion is going to be that big of a psyker or a psyker at all. He was one of the main opponents of the Librarius project and voted to censure Magnus.

Even Calas Typhon suppressed and hit his psychic potential from Mortarion during the Heresy and did not become a full fledged psyker till after the destroyer plague ravaged the Death Guard.

 Generalstoner wrote:
Not sure Mortarion is going to be that big of a psyker or a psyker at all. He was one of the main opponents of the Librarius project and voted to censure Magnus.

Even Calas Typhon suppressed and hit his psychic potential from Mortarion during the Heresy and did not become a full fledged psyker till after the destroyer plague ravaged the Death Guard.

That's true, and I did consider whether he'd have powers at all. He's on par with a Greater Daemon, maybe even above, and I find it unlikely that he'd totally lack some sort of Psyker ability as a result. That's also why I think he'd "only" be ML3, rather than 4

read Daemonology.

The whole theme of the DG, in my opinion, seems to be about how the DG slowly became that which they hated. Mortarion had some major hang ups on Chaos and wanted to resist it, but ultimately ended up serving Chaos anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if his 40k incarnation has fully given in to Nurgle's blessings and opened up his psychic abilities to take advantage of that. At least for the Nurgle (and maybe Biomancy) table(s).

gigasnail wrote:read Daemonology.

FoxPhoenix135 wrote:The whole theme of the DG, in my opinion, seems to be about how the DG slowly became that which they hated

These two get it. Death Guard are all about the contradictions and how idealism gave way to pragmatism

Mortarion freed Barbarus from the rule of the Warlords, but then delivered his world to the service of the Emperor
Mortarion defeated the Warlords to defend the weak citizens of Barbarus, but came to despise their weakness
Mortarion turned to Plague Planet into a mirror of Barbarus
Mortarion despised Psykers, but came to view Warpcraft as a necessity (more correctly, Mortarion is a Sorceror rather than a Psyker, at least until he ascended)
the Death Guard themselves are wracked with disease and look like they should keel over and die at any moment, but they are the most resilient
from their Index Astartes entry: "Their weapons and armour were rarely the most expertly artificed, certainly not the most beautifully-ornamented, but functioned without flaw" - their equipment looks like crap but keeps going

Contradictions are at the diseased heart of the Death Guard, and Mortarion especially

 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:
The whole theme of the DG, in my opinion, seems to be about how the DG slowly became that which they hated. Mortarion had some major hang ups on Chaos and wanted to resist it, but ultimately ended up serving Chaos anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if his 40k incarnation has fully given in to Nurgle's blessings and opened up his psychic abilities to take advantage of that. At least for the Nurgle (and maybe Biomancy) table(s).

Nailed it, 100% this. Even Mortarion became the warlord he hated, just like the original being that raised him.

Edit: I wish I had of read the post above mine before posting, he said what I posted in such a better way