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The whole spreading curse explains a could things and offers potentially limitless expansion into all the realms.

 DaveC wrote:

Where did you find that pic? The kit looks pretty sweet! (Although I still wish they'd made the "bases" a bit flatter, so you could remove the centerpiece and place figures on it, to use as lethal hexes).

There's a new article up showing all sorts of rules stuff:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/19/beastgrave-the-new-season-and-yougw-homepage-post-1/

It looks like they have tightened things up rules-wise quite well. I had been planning to hold off on getting the starter, but man... Good work GW!

 RiTides wrote:


Where did you find that pic? The kit looks pretty sweet! (Although I still wish they'd made the "bases" a bit flatter, so you could remove the centerpiece and place figures on it, to use as lethal hexes).

Warhammer Underworlds facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/warhammerunderworlds/

I do agree on the older fluff for ghouls being better, I much preferred The deranged cannibals. I also prefer the old metal ones (Paul Muller has some great ones from Heresy too). I think the concept for the new ones is pretty decent, and the art looks great, but the models look a bit doofy. I think these Underworlds ones will probably look much better and properly execute what GW is going for.

 Sabotage! wrote:
I do agree on the older fluff for ghouls being better, I much preferred The deranged cannibals.

Quote from the current AoS 2nd ed. FEC book

"Though every member of a Flesh-eater Court has been affected by the Abhorrent's Curse, and has therefore been instilled with madness born of death magic, mordants themselves are not dead. Their wretched existence can best be described as teetering on the edge of the grave - neither dead, nor undead, but possessed of only the most grotesque semblance of life. As such, they are immune to the power Nagash wields over all dead things."

So... I guess they're still crazy cannibals, but, sort of magical dead-ish beasties?

The Abhorrents are of course vampires, so they're undead, and zombie dragons & terrors of course too. But, I think the others are all 'living' things. In any instance. I love the look of the current Ghouls kit. very beastial, very crazy looking, i love it! I used to use them as the 'Generic demons' for Chaos space marines in the 4th/5th ed. codex. I like the look of these new ones too. I don't know that a female ghoul need to have long hair to tell her apart from the others, but then again, we're basing that off of one picture.

Also, a couple more cards I hadn't seen with other stuff on them. (sorry if they got posted already)

Divine Strength is just a majestic card.

The art's majestic. The effect is majestic.

That on Skaeth is going to be hysterical when he's Inspired(he gains Scything, which means that he gains the ability to make attacks against everyone within range of his Hooves attack). It becomes a knockbackapalooza!

I really want to see those ghouls !!! And Rotbringers too !! Please GW, don't make us wait too long !!!

yeah, based on the card art we've seen, hopefully there are at least 3 characters in the Rottbringers/maggotkin/Blightking set.

Is Great Fortitude supposed to be a Brute?

Sometimes I can't tell...

That's actually pretty awesome fluff Skullking, thanks for sharing it! It certainly seems better than the shift in fluff they had in 7th edition.

Look like the Grymwatch leader is a courtier, look like the background in the Beastgrave booklet only mention the revealed Grot rider and the "leaked" Grymwatch, neat!

So, based on the card art, would we say we know which factions all but 2 of the warbands belong to? I'm hoping for Idoneth to be one for this season, some new critters would make sense in the setting.

Chopstick wrote:
Look like the Grymwatch leader is a courtier, look like the background in the Beastgrave booklet only mention the revealed Grot rider and the "leaked" Grymwatch, neat!

Is there no mention of other bands?


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warl0rdb0b wrote:
So, based on the card art, would we say we know which factions all but 2 of the warbands belong to? I'm hoping for Idoneth to be one for this season, some new critters would make sense in the setting.

there are already 8 bands revealed by the cards
-beastmen
-beast elves
-fleash eaters
-grot wolf riders
-Nurgle
-Daughter of khaine
-ogor
-Orruk brutes

I don't think there are more bands :(

Had hoped for another Skaven band and to see the new-design Freeguild that were rumoured (so many great things that could be done there), but at least the wolf riders look great, and the Ogre hunter appears promising too.
Besides, now I can continue working on my Skaven Mordheim warbands without holding off due to a soon-to-be-released kit that might contain useful bits.

zamerion wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Look like the Grymwatch leader is a courtier, look like the background in the Beastgrave booklet only mention the revealed Grot rider and the "leaked" Grymwatch, neat!

Is there no mention of other bands?


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It's from here, mentioning only the 2 revealed warbands in the book is a super nice conincidence

From war of sigmar:

Also are mentionned :


Ogor of Voracia (Hungering gullet)

Athmora of the Fanged steppes (follower of the one that lurk below

Fushola (no more info)

StoneSpeaker peoples

Ghanua

As I suspected, no Ghoul King. Pleased with the lineup overall anyway. Guessing that the Ghouls & Wolf Riders will be the first two new warbands to drop in October if they follow the same schedule they had for Nightvault. Keen to see the Ghouls.

No pre-order bonus for ordering online from GW is a bit of a pain though I have to say. Off to a 3rd party retailer I go!

Stonespeaker people are odd. They don't sound Nurgly, but I can't think of what else they'd be. Unless they're just for fluff and aren't a warband.
Athmora is most likely the Daughters of Khaine.

GaroRobe wrote:
Stonespeaker people are odd. They don't sound Nurgly, but I can't think of what else they'd be. Unless they're just for fluff and aren't a warband.
Athmora is most likely the Daughters of Khaine.

I thought she sounded more like the Ghouls?

 Mr Morden wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Stonespeaker people are odd. They don't sound Nurgly, but I can't think of what else they'd be. Unless they're just for fluff and aren't a warband.
Athmora is most likely the Daughters of Khaine.

I thought she sounded more like the Ghouls?

I don't think so. The ghoul lore page was already shown. Plus mora sounds like moray. Which is serpentine lol

I kind of wonder if the gold bit might be a hint for future season:


Aerial bands would be neat bit of setting expansion, pity it's probably just a joke.

Aerial bands? Where do you see that kind of thing on the poster? Did I miss something? (If you mean the Kharadons themselves, they already have a warband that has a floater, and doesn't need a flying expansion to justify him)

Anyone know what's going with some of the warbands?

I wanted to grab the last few season 1 warbands I was missing and they're nowhere to be seen on GW's site

gilljoy wrote:
Anyone know what's going with some of the warbands?

I wanted to grab the last few season 1 warbands I was missing and they're nowhere to be seen on GW's site

Annoyingly GW hasn't said anything save that they are still valid in the game. The models themselves are still up for sale under the army pages in the main AoS page. However they come without any cards so you won't get the character cards to make the warband work. You might still get them form 3rd party stores or a local GW store; but otherwise at present GW aren't selling them. The hope is that GW brings them back repackaged with just the character cards and not the universal ones which have been removed from this cycle. I can't imagine GW making new warbands for every race every 2 cycles nor cycling them out fully from the game every 2 or 3 cycles.

Yeah, they said the warbands will Always be usable.
But it is whether they will always sell them, for Underworlds, that is the question.
Even if they did maybe a card pack that is Season 1. All 8 warbands character bits.
Obviously suck for anyone who only buys one warband, but for GW, it is then only 1 extra product.

That way they’d always have the packs of models, and that’s an AoS product so would never have to disappear once they are out of the ‘two current season’ rota.
Then they’d have just a card bundle, all warbands from seasons one, all from two when the time comes etc, and is just the cards needed to make the warband playable (those people would then have to buy current season packs to get enough cards to sort the deck, so even better on GW’s size..

I'm sure they'll somehow re-release the cards - the issue would be if they only did it digitally. Then again GW has been really odd with cards in that they appear to love them, but at the same time they only ever make one order. They don't even restock warscroll cards from what I've seen. Once gone they are gone until there's a new Battletome/codex.

It's odd to see GW making cards both optional aids and critical game parts, but in the same breath making them one-time products so many times.

At this point, I'm not sure they could even discontinue the warbands. They're all in the battletomes are their respective armies.

They could discontinue them as a Underworlds product perhaps.
But yeah they are in AoS to stay like those random Easy Builds that have names guys in them etc..

So it would be weird to take them out of this, unless the card issue creates too many problems

Older card go out of print, that's normal, they can't just keep reprint old card in addition to new one.

My unfounded hope is that the currently missing warbands are being repacked into new Beastgrave sets with their own unique cards and some S3 generics. Or possibly as paired sets with two warbands each and just their unique cards, maybe including the ones from the OOP supplementary sets like the Leaders pack.