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I would say they for sure areNot being repacked.
Being sold as they are now they can live forever, if they repackage for current, it is on borrowed time..

As I said earlier, for that I could see there being a ‘Season One pack’ that is just all those cards, but not 8 different card sets for older seasons each time..

Chopstick wrote:
Older card go out of print, that's normal, they can't just keep reprint old card in addition to new one.

Well, call me crazy if you like, but personally if a product is part of a game system's present edition, I expect the company selling the game to keep it in stock - or at least available in some way, if they stuck all this stuff up on their website when it went OOP that'd be fine - no matter how "old" it is.

I mean, would you be happy if GW would only keep, say, 10 army books in production, and as soon as the 11th book in a cycle was released book 1 would go OOP without any replacement? People talk as if ancillary products like cards or dice or play-aid doodads going out of production after one run is an immutable law of nature, just something unavoidable, but it really isn't, GW have just decided that it's not worth the bother, and there's no reason players have to be OK with that.

Anyway - I've not paid much attention to the release schedules for WHU previously; do we have a rough idea when the boxed game warbands will be out individually? I quite like the beastmen models, but I don't like them 45 quid.

 Yodhrin wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Older card go out of print, that's normal, they can't just keep reprint old card in addition to new one.

Well, call me crazy if you like, but personally if a product is part of a game system's present edition, I expect the company selling the game to keep it in stock - or at least available in some way, if they stuck all this stuff up on their website when it went OOP that'd be fine - no matter how "old" it is.

I mean, would you be happy if GW would only keep, say, 10 army books in production, and as soon as the 11th book in a cycle was released book 1 would go OOP without any replacement? People talk as if ancillary products like cards or dice or play-aid doodads going out of production after one run is an immutable law of nature, just something unavoidable, but it really isn't, GW have just decided that it's not worth the bother, and there's no reason players have to be OK with that.

Army book do exist in epub, so even if they went oop, people usually don't have a problem.

GW staffer yesterday said that the discontinued Shadespire warbands were definitely being re-packed to have updated universal cards etc. Obviously take with salt but fingers crossed this is the case.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
GW staffer yesterday said that the discontinued Shadespire warbands were definitely being re-packed to have updated universal cards etc. Obviously take with salt but fingers crossed this is the case.

Where was that said? Because most forums I’ve seen haven’t posted that and it’s the cause of a lot of angst.

A repackaging makes sense to me. They'll probably come out alongside the standalone Cursebreakers/Briars.

I feel like if GW was planning on truly discontinuing the Shadespire Warbands they'd have just outright done it. They're definitely not averse to it.

 Arbitrator wrote:
A repackaging makes sense to me. They'll probably come out alongside the standalone Cursebreakers/Briars.

Supposedly, Nightvault isn't going away as a product. If it doesn't, we probably won't see a standalone Cursebreakers/Briars until S4.

I feel like if GW was planning on truly discontinuing the Shadespire Warbands they'd have just outright done it. They're definitely not averse to it.

Yup. They might change tune in S4, but until then it seems most likely we'll see a repack of the faction cards with the Easy to Build uncolored plastic versions.

Chopstick wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Older card go out of print, that's normal, they can't just keep reprint old card in addition to new one.

Well, call me crazy if you like, but personally if a product is part of a game system's present edition, I expect the company selling the game to keep it in stock - or at least available in some way, if they stuck all this stuff up on their website when it went OOP that'd be fine - no matter how "old" it is.

I mean, would you be happy if GW would only keep, say, 10 army books in production, and as soon as the 11th book in a cycle was released book 1 would go OOP without any replacement? People talk as if ancillary products like cards or dice or play-aid doodads going out of production after one run is an immutable law of nature, just something unavoidable, but it really isn't, GW have just decided that it's not worth the bother, and there's no reason players have to be OK with that.

Army book do exist in epub, so even if they went oop, people usually don't have a problem.

So in other words, at present army books are kept available in some way throughout the entire time they're valid rules. My point was that cards and other supplementary materials often aren't, and so I drew the comparison to a hypothetical scenario where army books also aren't in order to illustrate how daft that situation is, because nobody would be blase about the idea of, say, Codex: Imperial Guard just arbitrarily going OOP because GW had chosen not to keep more than X number of books in print at any time, IG was X+1, and you couldn't get it anywhere else. Yet for some reason - maybe because they're still a relatively new thing for GW so people don't give them the same importance yet? - the typical response to people annoyed by card products going OOP is "meh, they're old, whatever".

 Theophony wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
GW staffer yesterday said that the discontinued Shadespire warbands were definitely being re-packed to have updated universal cards etc. Obviously take with salt but fingers crossed this is the case.

Where was that said? Because most forums I’ve seen haven’t posted that and it’s the cause of a lot of angst.

Just a chap working in a UK store.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
GW staffer yesterday said that the discontinued Shadespire warbands were definitely being re-packed to have updated universal cards etc. Obviously take with salt but fingers crossed this is the case.

Where was that said? Because most forums I’ve seen haven’t posted that and it’s the cause of a lot of angst.

Just a chap working in a UK store.

So.......

The original GW redshirt staff member broke from the company line again.

 Theophony wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
GW staffer yesterday said that the discontinued Shadespire warbands were definitely being re-packed to have updated universal cards etc. Obviously take with salt but fingers crossed this is the case.

Where was that said? Because most forums I’ve seen haven’t posted that and it’s the cause of a lot of angst.

Just a chap working in a UK store.

So.......

The original GW redshirt staff member broke from the company line again.

Quite possibly. Don't shoot the messenger, just passing it on. I did mention salt. For context, I was pretty sceptical, he was pretty adamant. Take whatever you care to from that.

 Theophony wrote:

So.......
The original GW redshirt staff member broke from the company line again.

Or they got an email that informed them of such.

Picture in colour courtesy of GW

We get a warband preview tomorrow at 4pm BST(should be 11am Eastern, last one seemed to be earlier though).

Art certainly indicates they'll be a bit more stretched out and human than the current ghouls. Good thing in my book.

Those knives or claws look nasty on the first background ghoul.

I kinda hope the guy with the ribcage back gets a slightly better armor save than the other ghouls.
Does the guy on the far right have the scyles replacing his arms or is he just holding them?

This has just popped up on my FB feed

Hmmmmmm... well, I'm certainly not a fan of what I'm seeing there, but then again this was never going to be my warband with so many cool greenskins to choose from

That model is significantly less tempting than the artwork.

The rest are better. The leader model is amazing, imo.

They're floating around Facebook, along with new Bats!!!!

edit: And the model above looks better at a different angle.

More pics from FB user Michael Mulhall-Rose. Apologies for the terrible formatting

They are better than the current ghouls but they just look very bland maybe I'm just not liking the paint scheme. The bats are a surprise addition. I know I'll get them anyway as they'll double up as a FEC Warcry Warband.

Gorgeous Ghouls!

I dig the one with skeletal armor, but they are all looking good. Some perfect models to use for the 'Crypt Ghast Courtier'. Now I don't have to continue digging through all my old stuff to find that old Strigoi model I left somewhere...

I would prefer a more snowy, muscular look. Might just be the paint job but some of those limbs look very average compared to some of the sculpts GW has been knocking out of late.

Yeah, the video got posted earlier and then hidden.

They look pretty nice, to be honest.

Looks like six ghouls plus the bats. The bats are a nice surprise, and I am vindicated in thinking the cover showed a full six ghouls! Looking at the middle of the cover, I wondered if there was something strange in the far background. Those must be the bat wings.

Personally, I think the sculpts are a neat addition. I like the more human, but still twisted version of ghouls. I will certainly pick them up for Underworlds and AoS.

Like the ghoul with bone armour a lot - look forward to the proper pictures tomorrow.

Even though it's only a day early, I'm feeling a little nostalgia getting to squint at small / low quality pics before GW releases official ones

 RiTides wrote:
Even though it's only a day early, I'm feeling a little nostalgia getting to squint at small / low quality pics before GW releases official ones

The sad part is that the individual took screengrabs of the GW video and still managed to potatocam it.

Hmm, I love the standard ghoul models, but these aren't really doing much for me. Maybe it is the very uninspiring flat green skin paint jobs they after sporting?