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Chikout wrote:
I'm not sure why everyone want Fec to be less delusional. The whole hook is that they are the exact opposite of what they imagine themselves to be. Adding parodies of knightly armour or weaponry dilutes that effect. I would like to see them lean more on the horror than the comedy.

The problem is they don't lean on either. The hook goes nowhere, because they aren't the opposite of their delusion, they're unrelated to it.
They don't sell the idea any better than the 'Freeguild' Griffon does by having 'Karl Franz' written across its chest.

They're very obviously miniatures built for a different and unrelated setting re-used without any changes.

Voss wrote:

Chikout wrote:
I'm not sure why everyone want Fec to be less delusional. The whole hook is that they are the exact opposite of what they imagine themselves to be. Adding parodies of knightly armour or weaponry dilutes that effect. I would like to see them lean more on the horror than the comedy.

The problem is they don't lean on either. The hook goes nowhere, because they aren't the opposite of their delusion, they're unrelated to it.
They don't sell the idea any better than the 'Freeguild' Griffon does by having 'Karl Franz' written across its chest.

They're very obviously miniatures built for a different and unrelated setting re-used without any changes.

It's not so much that they are "re-used" but more that hte lore has changed, but there is no real visual display of the lore linking to the actual models. FEC are an extreme example, but there's nothing in the model designs that speaks of their lore in the least. They don't even really have any "feasting" models or such to represent their great feasts from the lore; nor are there any signs of them giving into their delusion such as carrying ribcages as shields etc... It's a little bit like when you watch a TV series or read a book and the last page when they come to resolve it all ends with. "And then he woke up and it was all a dream." You kinda feel "cheated".

Love the FEC dice!

Voss wrote:

Chikout wrote:
I'm not sure why everyone want Fec to be less delusional. The whole hook is that they are the exact opposite of what they imagine themselves to be. Adding parodies of knightly armour or weaponry dilutes that effect. I would like to see them lean more on the horror than the comedy.

The problem is they don't lean on either. The hook goes nowhere, because they aren't the opposite of their delusion, they're unrelated to it.
They don't sell the idea any better than the 'Freeguild' Griffon does by having 'Karl Franz' written across its chest.

They're very obviously miniatures built for a different and unrelated setting re-used without any changes.

Exactly. It would be like using the entire Cadian range unchanged and changing the fluff to have them be from a feudal world where they common guardsman is the equivalent to a Man at Arms, with Kasrkin models representing elite household knights. There is nothing visually linking models to fluff, which could have made Ghouls one of the visually coolest armies of AoS, rather than a small portion of a Vampire Counts army spammed as an entire force.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Love the FEC dice!

Agreed on the bone dice. The other ones are pretty boring.

The ghoul dice are the first dice in a while I've been tempted by. Fun colors.


Haven't made up my mind about the warband yet, but it's almost within impulse price ranges and if I have nay credit at the local store from bringing in figures I'm not using I may just get them anyways.

So the FEC will be like the skaven, and can bring back dead models. Cool. Though, this will probably make most of the models nameless goons. I'm guessing hooky, bone armor, and maybe the female will be the "named ones", while arm-chewer and big bone are just "ghouls" or whatever name they'll all share

Yeah Skaven were the first comparison I thought of as well (hordes, both with a leader armed with a polearm). Perhaps they'll play like Sepulchral Guard with more speed & less resilience. I'm curious as to whether the Crakmarrow will be a wizard or not.

Could have some vampire blood in him and is changing

As with most models I don't like, they're slowly growing on me with repeated viewings. I still don't like all of them and I was hoping I'd like them way more, but I was able to come up with a few ideas on how to model them with the arch-regent, so I'll have to pick them up eventually.

Honestly, I think a better paint scheme will do them wonders. I didn't like the new aelves until I saw them with blue hair and a winter theme.

Price rise on the new Warbands as predicted. The Grymwatch Warband is €25 which is £20 $30

For the USD price, haven't they always been $30?

 RiTides wrote:
For the USD price, haven't they always been $30?

Yup.

They were $25 for the Easy to Build variants with no cards though. We just got shafted in a different spot.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/02/warband-focus-the-grymwatchgw-homepage-post-4/

Look like Sepulchral Guard 2.0, but fast, and have auto revive.

Chopstick wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/02/warband-focus-the-grymwatchgw-homepage-post-4/

Look like Sepulchral Guard 2.0, but fast, and have auto revive.

More akin to the Eyes of the Nine, in my opinion.
Skeletons could be really quick if you built for it, but they were hampered by being such a high model count and the Warden being the central obligatory "must keeps safe" model, who really wanted to be on the frontlines instead.
Eyes of the Nine, on the flipside of things, had their freebie Horrors that functioned similarly to these.

Grymwatch look like they'll be a hell of a thing to deal with.

Feth me.. the Grymwatch speak to me .. love the irony and delusion.. and think they could fit well into the maps I have if I pass on this season's core box..

I wish they'd include little fluff blurbs in all of the Warband cards. The lore behind a lot of the characters tends to get overlooked.

Also, know we know the names of at least one of the goblins and one of the DoK. "Rippa Narkbad" and "Morgwaeth the bloodied."

GaroRobe wrote:
I wish they'd include little fluff blurbs in all of the Warband cards. The lore behind a lot of the characters tends to get overlooked.

Also, know we know the names of at least one of the goblins and one of the DoK. "Rippa Narkbad" and "Morgwaeth the bloodied."

To be fair, we already knew about Rippa. I think the Beastgrave rulesbook names the other two as well.

Grymwatch look fun and strong. Going on my prority list.

Heard tell that Novembers White Dwarf includes a bunch of Underworlds cards, anyone know anything about this?

I'm curious to see if these games will be getting new Slaves to Darkness and Ossiarch Bonestealers or whatever

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I'm curious to see if these games will be getting new Slaves to Darkness and Ossiarch Bonestealers or whatever

Anything can happen I suppose, but I doubt it will be in this season of releases. We’ve already seen the artwork on the cards and nothing shows S2D and OBR.

Perhaps next season.

 nels1031 wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I'm curious to see if these games will be getting new Slaves to Darkness and Ossiarch Bonestealers or whatever

Anything can happen I suppose, but I doubt it will be in this season of releases. We’ve already seen the artwork on the cards and nothing shows S2D and OBR.

Perhaps next season.

We might get an "in-between" ala Dreadfane again.

Worth mentioning though that we already got the 'new Slaves to Darkness' stuff in Nightvault with the Godsworn Hunt!

 ingtaer wrote:
Heard tell that Novembers White Dwarf includes a bunch of Underworlds cards, anyone know anything about this?

It comes with some cards, one of which is for Underworlds. The rest are for Aeronautica, Blood Bowl, and Titanicus. Also an art card. See Warhammr Community.

Looks like the Underworlds card is a generic Ploy, but unsure if it is an "alt art" card.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 nels1031 wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I'm curious to see if these games will be getting new Slaves to Darkness and Ossiarch Bonestealers or whatever

Anything can happen I suppose, but I doubt it will be in this season of releases. We’ve already seen the artwork on the cards and nothing shows S2D and OBR.

Perhaps next season.

We might get an "in-between" ala Dreadfane again.

Worth mentioning though that we already got the 'new Slaves to Darkness' stuff in Nightvault with the Godsworn Hunt!

Though weren’t the Dreadfane models just ETB kits they ended up not using or something like that?
So they threw them in a little box.
I thought I read something along those lines maybe..

Danny76 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 nels1031 wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I'm curious to see if these games will be getting new Slaves to Darkness and Ossiarch Bonestealers or whatever

Anything can happen I suppose, but I doubt it will be in this season of releases. We’ve already seen the artwork on the cards and nothing shows S2D and OBR.

Perhaps next season.

We might get an "in-between" ala Dreadfane again.

Worth mentioning though that we already got the 'new Slaves to Darkness' stuff in Nightvault with the Godsworn Hunt!

Though weren’t the Dreadfane models just ETB kits they ended up not using or something like that?
So they threw them in a little box.
I thought I read something along those lines maybe..

They were ETB kits they had used. They came out with AoS 2.0 and the Soul Wars starter.

Oh, even less likely for them to come between then in my opinion.
The Bone Reapers And StD will be unique sculpts like the rest of Underworlds, so will just be season 4 (or 5/6 etc etc).

I doubt there’d be two brand news, just for a mid season box.
I mean really, I don’t think there’ll be another ‘Dreadfane’ now, just these extras for it every now and then if anything.

Danny76 wrote:
Oh, even less likely for them to come between then in my opinion.
The Bone Reapers And StD will be unique sculpts like the rest of Underworlds, so will just be season 4 (or 5/6 etc etc).

We already have a Slaves to Darkness set.

What we might see next season is a set of Chaos Warriors as the basis instead of the Darkoath.
And frankly? We've got better things to come for this than Ossiarch and Slave to Darkness.

I doubt there’d be two brand news, just for a mid season box.
I mean really, I don’t think there’ll be another ‘Dreadfane’ now, just these extras for it every now and then if anything.

Dreadfane came after Nightvault finished but before Beastgrave was even announced or hinted at. We knew there would be 'another season', but that was it.

Whether or not we see a similar set to Dreadfane? Don't know. I definitely wouldn't rule it out though, since there's another two Easy to Build Nighthaunt(Glaivewraith Stalkers) and Stormcast(Castigators with Gryph-Hound) sets they could repurpose for it, and that would potentially get us close to another edition's starter set which we could grow out into a season 5 post-script with some more Easy to Build stuff.

You shut your mouth! There is nothing better than Dark oath and SoD