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Ah, thank you.

Not wildly impressed by the dice.

I'll probably pass on the dice and card sleeves. Very happy with the game but hate paying out the nose for "official" peripherals like that. Got some Dragonshields and perfectly fine with the plain dice in the box.

I really like the dice (ordered the purple ones). They were only £4.70 or something from the retailer I ordered the 2 new warbands from.

I think I'll want a second set of dice to play with people who don't have the game themselves, so we each have a set.

At first I thought the card sleeves seemed pointless, but I'm thinking it will actually be useful to keep your chosen decks of cards in the special sleeves, so you can easily pick them out from the rest of the cards you aren't currently using in a deck. So if you just have all the cards in a box, it will be easy to find and pick out your Sepulchral Guard deck from all the rest of the cards.

The sleeves were of interest, but they only give exactly 12 objectives sleeves and 20 power sleeves. If one sleeve rips for whatever reason, you won't have any extra sleeves to replace broken ones.

 akai wrote:
The sleeves were of interest, but they only give exactly 12 objectives sleeves and 20 power sleeves. If one sleeve rips for whatever reason, you won't have any extra sleeves to replace broken ones.

Yeah... that was a really weird choice. Had they just made them a round number like 50 sleeves per pack, I think I might have bought some for other purposes.

I assume though that there's actually 3 kinds of sleeves in each pack right? You need unique sleeves for the power and objective deck and you want transparent sleeves for the stat cards if you really MUST sleeve them. Its basically 20+12+bonus clear sleeves, right?

 akai wrote:
The sleeves were of interest, but they only give exactly 12 objectives sleeves and 20 power sleeves. If one sleeve rips for whatever reason, you won't have any extra sleeves to replace broken ones.

Yeah, plus you're paying the same price for each teams pack but some give you more/less sleeves. They should have put in a few more than the bare minimum you need to play with all cards sleeved.

Yeah that's how it is. Character cards clear, and then two different backs for Power (20) vs Objectives (12).

Not enough to sleeve the whole box, though.

Well, like I said, I'd prefer to use normal clear sleeves (if I even sleeve them) for the cards I'm not using in my decks, so the ones with the special sleeves are the ones I am using in decks, making them easy to pick out. Though I had not considered the possibility of damaging one, which would then make them unusable.

The scenario I am thinking of is playing in a tournament. While shuffling or the judge/opponent determined a sleeve is ripped or easy to tell apart from other sleeved cards. You won't have any extra sleeves of the same design (unless you buy a second pack of fairly expensive sleeves to replace it during the event). Of course, this is coming from a CCG tournament point of view, not sure how organized events of Underworlds will be handled.

although if a tournament is going to be picky they may well expect you to use the official sleeves anyway?

@OrlandooftheTechnicoloured - that would be pretty off-putting to attend an official event.

Speaking of organized play and tournaments...have their been any documents posted on how Underworld official events should be run?

 akai wrote:
@OrlandooftheTechnicoloured - that would be pretty off-putting to attend an official event.

Speaking of organized play and tournaments...have their been any documents posted on how Underworld official events should be run?

Someone posted a link to their official tournament pack. I can't find it at the moment, but read it at the time and saw nothing off-putting. Cards cannot be marked... period... but no requirement for sleeves or anything silly.

First Shadespire FAQ posted on Warhammer Community

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/01/the-first-shadespire-faq/

Some of them are needed, but some of them can be summed up with "seriously just read the rules and think for a second". I guess some people just can't be asked to do that :\

Requizen wrote:
Some of them are needed, but some of them can be summed up with "seriously just read the rules and think for a second". I guess some people just can't be asked to do that :\

I dunno. It's nice to have clarification as to what the writers were intending to achieve with the rules.

When someone gave me a demo of the game, they were having the "can you attack again in a subsequent action" discussion with their opponent during the prior game, so I'm glad this question was put in there. Always better to be more clear than less

Also love how fast they came out with this!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
although if a tournament is going to be picky they may well expect you to use the official sleeves anyway?

I really doubt anyone would enforce this.

Ben2 wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
although if a tournament is going to be picky they may well expect you to use the official sleeves anyway?

I really doubt anyone would enforce this.

As I mentioned above... you don't need any sleeves, or even painted models.

https://trade-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Warhammmer_Underworlds_Winter2017_OP_Support.pdf

Played two more games today. Both with Khorne.

Khorne is not a team for someone who rolls gak on dice. That said, I annihilated my first opponent and had only Garrek left on the board at the end with 5 upgrades and 16 total Glory. Felt really flarkin good to get that victory with him.

The other game I lost by 3 but my opponent hit basically every attack. Was pretty bad. lol.

ORKS THIS WEEKEND!

 rybackstun wrote:
ORKS THIS WEEKEND!

That's where I'm at, too

I've been having fun painting my Stormcast warband, but the Orks are what I really look forward to! I play Ironjawz a little bit in Age of Sigmar, so I'll be painting my Ironskull warband up with the same dark green skin and blackmetal armour as them.

One thing that bothers me though.. why is the ork named Ironskull NOT the one with the iron plate on his skull? I'm seriously considering switching their heads around (if possible without too much cutting and green-stuffing) so Ironskull has that fitting head.

 rybackstun wrote:

The other game I lost by 3 but my opponent hit basically every attack. Was pretty bad. lol.

Well Blood rain is useful.

Finished painting up my Stormcast last night. Definitely not going to paint up Khorne until after the Orks are painted up.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
although if a tournament is going to be picky they may well expect you to use the official sleeves anyway?

I really doubt anyone would enforce this.

As I mentioned above... you don't need any sleeves, or even painted models.

https://trade-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Warhammmer_Underworlds_Winter2017_OP_Support.pdf

Do you think there are enough card for rerolls to off-set this?

What are you trying to offset?

Got hold of the Orcs and Skellies, they look great but I am annoyed that the Orc's feet are molded to the bases (non of the other sets have this bar the one skeleton coming out of the ground)
I like to Base board game minis like this on acrylic bases so you can see more of the nice board art under them.

Dice look nice but Im
'm still bugged by the exclamation mark symbol feeling out of place with the other custom symbols, you've got the exact hammer that stormcast use, the exact shield that stormcast use, the half and double "halo" thing, even the dodge arrow is well designed graphically and then a wingding (I am a graphic artist by trade so may just be hyper sensitive to this kind of design inconsistency)

I do not particularly love the crit symbol either. I also kind of find it distracting that there's no real difference between offensive and defensive dice, fwiw.

Is there any visual spoiler like with mtg cards?