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But she totally does just end up waving the Sonic about. Her theories are wacky and wrong til she starts sonic-ing things, and she never bothers to put it down afterwards, to the point that the immediate problem (their collarbones) is just handwvaved out of existence.
Those two scrawny guys couldn't haul a (too-cold-to-touch) pod with that thing inside through a forest even assuming they could find it in the first place (which is a hard ask from 'weather patterns') .
Really? How much does an alien transport pod weigh?...
Well, it has a humanoid inside, so 150 pounds minimum (reasonably more, given his size), plus his full body armor with refrigeration and gadgets, plus whatever the pod is made out of. If we're being kind about super space age plastics, probably still about 300 at the very least, and that's being overly nice about it.
And that's dragging the thing around trees, roots and rocks and things in the dark (Ryan doesn't leave til sundown), and what he's walking through isn't conducive to trolleys, winches or carts.
Plus it was 'too cold to touch,' and the guy was getting cold just watching it from several feet away.
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Loved it. Jodie is a superb actress I loved her in broadchurch. Obviously this is a massively different role for her and she is carrying it off superbly. It also looks like she is having fun doing it.
Voss wrote: But she totally does just end up waving the Sonic about. Her theories are wacky and wrong til she starts sonic-ing things, and she never bothers to put it down afterwards, to the point that the immediate problem (their collarbones) is just handwvaved out of existence.
Those two scrawny guys couldn't haul a (too-cold-to-touch) pod with that thing inside through a forest even assuming they could find it in the first place (which is a hard ask from 'weather patterns') .
Really? How much does an alien transport pod weigh?...
Well, it has a humanoid inside, so 150 pounds minimum (reasonably more, given his size), plus his full body armor with refrigeration and gadgets, plus whatever the pod is made out of. If we're being kind about super space age plastics, probably still about 300 at the very least, and that's being overly nice about it.
And that's dragging the thing around trees, roots and rocks and things in the dark (Ryan doesn't leave til sundown), and what he's walking through isn't conducive to trolleys, winches or carts.
Plus it was 'too cold to touch,' and the guy was getting cold just watching it from several feet away.
Insulated gloves. And it had some form of suspensor for fuel efficiency on the journey.
The Doctor still hand crafted a Sonic out of junk. In about an hour, tops.
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Knockagh wrote: Loved it. Jodie is a superb actress I loved her in broadchurch. Obviously this is a massively different role for her and she is carrying it off superbly. It also looks like she is having fun doing it.
As I think I mentioned, she’s got the authority thing down. Crashes through a roof, takes control of the situation to the point that nobody ever stops or even thinks ‘who put you in charge?’.
Confidence and charm. That’s what it takes. And she’s got it in spades
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Honest Trailers have put up a couple of TV ones for Who (both classic and modern) to go with the new series. Highlight for me is the description of the Doctor as a 'Spatial Justice Warrior'.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
Riquende wrote: Honest Trailers have put up a couple of TV ones for Who (both classic and modern) to go with the new series. Highlight for me is the description of the Doctor as a 'Spatial Justice Warrior'.
It's blink-and-you'll-miss-it, but it is great!
As for the new episode; I liked it; she's got some real potential, and did a good job of mixing in some bits and pieces of past doctors into her performance. Looking forward to more.
I didn't expect the (what's their names again? I'm calling them the Shaws) Shaws to be recurring baddies, but I can't say it's a bad choice. We have an idea about their culture. Martial Pride, but not necessarily Warriors. They seem like the kind of race who seek to prove themselves over other races, but not necessarily through warfare exactly. The impression I got from Tim Shaw was that his goal wasn't to necessarily kill and defeat this prey, but to hunt him and find him. The location was the challenge, and it seemed like they didn't really care if the planet they hunted on was home to more hostile creatures. They were accepted on the world, and that's enough for them.
It would have made a bit more sense, in my opinion, if it had been Ryan who was the prey, or if Carl had been the one to press the floaty space button "allowing" Tim Shaw to hunt on Earth, but I'm ultimately not that bothered.
We have an alien race with a decent look to them (blue skinned wrinklies with teeth embedded and cold attacks), and we have enough about their culture in the last two episodes to set them up as adversaries to the Doctor. We don't necessarily need anything related to the Doctor's past, just an opponent who can challenge the Doctor's idealogies.
As far as this latest episode goes, I only struggled once, and that was towards the end, with the "the Doctor and her companions are stranded!" fakeout. I would have suggested fixing this by having the games master guy either only take one of the competitors (against both of their will), or taking neither. Then, the Doctor can take the survivors to their home planets, or wherever they want to go, and then, we get the establishing shot of Earth as the next location for dropping the gang off.
Having the Doctor figuring out stuff as we do is nice. We don't have a Doctor who knows EVERYTHING, but we have one who is clearly competent and has their own agency. They are still challenged by encounters, but can figure out solutions without resorting to unknown facts. The cigar, for example, is foreshadowed. The gas, I'm not sure if it was shown it was flammable, but by saying it was lighter than air was good writing. Combining those facts the audience knew makes for a good problem solving sequence.
Like the Doctor's new look, love the Sheffield Swiss Screwdriver (made with Sheffield Steel!) and the new TARDIS is cool. A little dark for my liking, but I like the hourglass and the food dispenser!
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She's doing well, although she seems to channel Tennant's energy a bit at times for me. I'm still not a fan of Ryan, but Graham's growing on me (he really shouldn't be pushing the 'grandpa' thing though. Ryan is a grown man, it's stupid). Yaz struggling to find her spot in the ensemble, I think 3 companions is a bit of a squeeze. I know it was done historically but those stories were serialised over 4, 6 or sometimes 10 episodes, moved slower and gave more opportunities for a bigger cast to split up and do stuff. We'll see how it pans out.
The episode itself was... okay, I guess. They were walking fairly leisurely for it being a 'race' and being on a desert planet with no drinkable water or food of any kind wasn't deemed worth a mention somehow (a bag of jelly babies wouldn't have gone amiss). The floating paper monsters were hard to take seriously but I guess they've laid the seed of the season arc. As someone who didn't like the concept of the Stenza I'm not happy to have their name crop up again.
"What is that?"
"...it's a tent."
Next week's already looked to me like an episode of Quantum Leap, and then they went and mentioned fixing the timelines! At the end of the episode they'll be hoping their next leap will be the leap... home.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
Sgt_Smudge wrote: Ryan is 19, I thought - he's still not fully a man yet.
19 is still well old enough to be able to choose to not ever call a step-grandparent "grandpa" though; I'd think any teenager would balk at it to be honest. Graham just comes across as a bit weird for trying to force the issue is all.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
I called my grandpa, grandpa until he died, when I was in my mid 20's. It wouldn't seem odd that, considering everything that's happened, Graham is trying to foster and keep that feeling of a family unit.
Ugh jeebus, made the mistake of reading the DoG review - apparently a two sentence exchange between Ryan and Graham means the show is making a "timely" attempt to "tackle toxic masculinity in young men"
So is that the new "mansplaining" now then - a term that had a useful meaning but ends up so diluted by over- and mis-use it just comes to mean whatever any given woke thinkpiece author wants it to mean.
You can't even have a basic moment of character establishing dialogue now without it being picked apart through the lens of gender studies, christ just let them actually show us who these people are for more than one episode before deciding they're going to become avatars of your political bugbears.
Anyway, the episode itself was solid if a little...lightweight? Bradley Walsh surprises me by continuing to not make me want to punch him over and over in his big gormless face, which is a nice change from every other character he's played that I've seen. Not a huge fan of the new TARDIS design, it's a bit unwelcoming and sterile compared to the last few versions, like a weird alien ship that the gang has a one-off adventure in rather than the Doctor's home. Points for the biscuit dispenser though, hah.
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I called my grandpa, grandpa until he died, when I was in my mid 20's.
Same for me with both my grandmothers, who were always 'gran' and 'grandma'. But they had been since I was a baby, and here I'm specifically talking about step-relatives who join the family when someone is an adult (or near it). If my gran when I was 16 had suddenly got married to a guy from her choir called Cuthbert then he'd have never been 'grandpa' to me. And if he'd kept badgering me about it then it could end up a problem.
Bradley Walsh surprises me by continuing to not make me want to punch him over and over in his big gormless face, which is a nice change from every other character he's played that I've seen. [/i]
Aside from my whiny griping about the above I agree with this, and it reminds me of Catherine Tate (who I intensely dislike) and her portrayal of Donna (who was by far my favourite Tennant companion).
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
Good concept overall but the Stenza (blue face tooth pulling aliens) already failed as a monster in my eyes so I'm not pleased to see them flagged as a major villain.
The visuals were great. The colour treatment made the alien planet look great.
A bit too much sonic screwdriver. For example, couldn't the hatch to the underground simply have been opened by its wheel?
Didn't much like the new Tardis but I'm hoping if we spend a bit more time looking at it, it will become less of a high concept and more of a real place.
Good concept overall but the Stenza (blue face tooth pulling aliens) already failed as a monster in my eyes so I'm not pleased to see them flagged as a major villain.
The visuals were great. The colour treatment made the alien planet look great.
A bit too much sonic screwdriver. For example, couldn't the hatch to the underground simply have been opened by its wheel?
Didn't much like the new Tardis but I'm hoping if we spend a bit more time looking at it, it will become less of a high concept and more of a real place.
I'd agree with most of this (especially the big bads and the sonic), except the tardis. I'm a little puzzled by the crystal formations, but I don't think I saw a wide enough shot to really have much of opinion on how the whole interior looks.
I did find the change to the entrance really interesting. Previously, we go that th sense that the tardis was wholly within the police box shell. Now however, there is an entrance space that is the police box, and the tardis proper is a separate space beyond it and simply attached to the back. It probably doesn't mean anything and likely won't get addressed, but to me it visually feels like a different take on the 'dimensional engineering' involved. And a different use of and conceptualization of space.
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A bit too much sonic screwdriver. For example, couldn't the hatch to the underground simply have been opened by its wheel?
Yes. Yes it could. And it also probably could have been closed after them to avoid the "oh no they've found the hatch" moment.
Oh, I also didn't like the "Call of Duty" bit.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
A bit too much sonic screwdriver. For example, couldn't the hatch to the underground simply have been opened by its wheel?
Yes. Yes it could. And it also probably could have been closed after them to avoid the "oh no they've found the hatch" moment.
Oh, I also didn't like the "Call of Duty" bit.
That got a legitimate chuckle out of me. It's exactly what I'd expect a 19 year old to do, only let down was the lack of anything resembling consequences.
What amazed me is they managed to make me despise the writing on the bad villains even more. They could have written off Tim as a bad egg from a race with daft and bad leadership practices, but instead we get mustache twirling evil with genocide, making WMDs and Dementors. Really, this lacks any sense of depth or nuance, and I have no idea how they're going to work it out into something meaningful.
The plots are very weak so far - Crappy Predator for Ep 1 and Hunger Games on easy mode for Ep 2.
The teeth "Warrior race" people are a major bad guy - oh dear thats poor.
The cast are doing there best with some lazy writing. Give it a couple more episodes.
I know the Doc hates guns - but Yeah Call of Duy was fun - wish it had worked rather than having to resort to bombs and explosives ....which are apparently totally different and fine
I liked that she admits she is wrong now and again - something thats been needed for a long time, just hope they tone down the bloody Screwdriver and don;t have start whining about "oh no I only have partially immortality" like the rescent ones.
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The group dynamic is also feeling more collaborative.
Ryan and Graham are really growing on me. Yaz needs more work. But, looking at synopses for the next four episodes, that’s rectified in due course. More info on DenofGeek.
As for the possible season baddies? I’m hoping we might see some Times-Wimey problem solving.
We don’t know the time setting for Episode 2. It could be after Episode 1, or before it. If it’s after, The Doctor may want to see why they went from Single Hunts to Genocide, try to skip them onto a different path. If it’s before? Perhaps The Doctor set the rules for them?
There’s a lot we could see - or it could be an entirely throwaway lined there to provoke chatter online.
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I didn't get a sense that there was a time component to her teleport at the end of episode 1. But you never really know with Who.
And I'd expect most 19 years olds to just literally wet themselves going from using a controller to a live-fire life or death situation. Ryan hasn't seemed the most confident type at most things but he was just chomping at the bit to go shoot guns at things trying to shoot him back?
Also, when the ship crashed, why did none of them think to run sideways out of the way, rather than just directly away in the direction of travel? I get that the sides were sloped, but it was was shallow incline...
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
Also, when the ship crashed, why did none of them think to run sideways out of the way, rather than just directly away in the direction of travel? I get that the sides were sloped, but it was was shallow incline...
That seems to be a trope. I don't know how or why, but it also shows up in that weird Alien prequel(ish) movie thing amongst others.. The only time I can think of it where it was acceptable was Raiders of the Lost Ark, simply because there was no 'sideways' to run to.
I wonder if the Timeless Child will end up being the Doctor's daughter. I always lamented how that was too great a concept for a one-off.
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AegisGrimm wrote: I wonder if the Timeless Child will end up being the Doctor's daughter. I always lamented how that was too great a concept for a one-off.
I really, really hope not. "We have a lady Doctor now, better stick a kiddywink in there" is also something of a mixed message.
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AegisGrimm wrote: I wonder if the Timeless Child will end up being the Doctor's daughter. I always lamented how that was too great a concept for a one-off.
I really, really hope not. "We have a lady Doctor now, better stick a kiddywink in there" is also something of a mixed message.
The Doctor's daughter presumably being the "clone" made of David Tennant. Georgia Moffet.
Didn't they also throw Toby Jones in there as some malevolent powerful entity (dreams, nightmares etc) and then never use him again?
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
An alternative I thought, was maybe Yas doing it, stating that, instead of it being a CoD reference, she mentions that she had taken Fire training (as part of her aspect of being unsatisfied in her junior police role) and she was considering joining the Firearms Unit.
Then, her action is more precise, as she returns to fetch the rest.
Then the robots rise up, The Doctor lectures.
And Yas nods in understanding, taking the lesson on board.
I think Ryan’s spot of big dakka worked. So far, we know Yaz has a heroic nature, because she’s a Copper. You don’t get into that for particularly selfish reasons (not in the U.K. anyways).
Graham? He’s showing strengths elsewhere.
Ryan works for it. He’s still blown away at being on another planet. Perhaps the reality of the situation has been pushed to one side by the awe of the experience.
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We made living cloth that hunts you down and strangles you.
Ok that’s cool.
And it can read your mind and know your past and your fears.
Uh, ok, sure why not.
And it uses that information to flutter around and taunt you for awhile before it kills you.
Wait what? Why?
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