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I found Bill to be the most interesting sidekick since Dr Who returned.
We didn't know her for long, but she felt well rounded. Never in awe of the Doctor. Never trying to be him. Never trying to shag him. She simply was.
And Nardole was an unexpected joy. Now, I like Matt Lucas. Have done ever since I caught Sir Bernard Chumley's Gangshow at the Edinburgh fringe over 20 years ago. But I do get he can be a bit much for some.
But Nardole was pitch perfect in my opinion. He'd stand up to The Doctor. He'd call bullpoop when he needed to. But most of all. He proved his competence Time and time again. He wasn't your typically Whovian 'but.....why?' second fiddle. He worked, and he was great!
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I agree. I had concerns about Bill and, especially Nardole from when they were announced and the original trailers. And my concerns were proved completely wrong.
Yes, it has been a very good series. I am sorry to see Missy and The Master die, but probably they will be resurrected in some way. He already survived the heat death of the entire cosmos, after all.
Compel wrote: I will admit, I'm not generally too experienced with Old-Who, nor an expert on much of new-Who at all.
Specifically saying, essentially,
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"nope, no regeneration for you" as a line of dialogue, does seem more... permanent than usual.
Of course, this is Doctor Who, so timey wimeyness and retcons apply more than anything short of the last decade of DC comics.
But still, there's a chance I feel each time a retcon is done that it can break an audiences investment in the drama. - After all, is it still dramatic, if there's no consequences?
The master spent a large part of Old Who with no regenerations left, cheating death by transferring his essence into other beings.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I found Bill to be the most interesting sidekick since Dr Who returned.
We didn't know her for long, but she felt well rounded. Never in awe of the Doctor. Never trying to be him. Never trying to shag him. She simply was.
And Nardole was an unexpected joy. Now, I like Matt Lucas. Have done ever since I caught Sir Bernard Chumley's Gangshow at the Edinburgh fringe over 20 years ago. But I do get he can be a bit much for some.
But Nardole was pitch perfect in my opinion. He'd stand up to The Doctor. He'd call bullpoop when he needed to. But most of all. He proved his competence Time and time again. He wasn't your typically Whovian 'but.....why?' second fiddle. He worked, and he was great!
Agree with all of this. I enjoyed Nardole far more than I expected to, and Bill was a fantastic companion. I think my favourite part of that finale was that I had no idea right up until the end if Bill was actually going to make it out... It could easily have gone either way, depending on what sort of tone they wanted to finish the season on, and it was going to be a shame to see her go in any case.
It's a bit of a shame that they left it for his last season to give Capaldi such a consistently good run of stories. He really shone this season in a way he didn't quite get to for most of his earlier episodes. Minimising the appearance of the sunglasses and guitar certainly didn't hurt.
And is it just me, or was he looking steadily more like John Pertwee as this season went on?
Definitely -I think it was the lining of his Crombie.
Bill can yet reappear of course.
As for Capaldi's stories? I rather fear he was hamstrung more by Clara, a character I couldn't take to at all. So awful in my opinion, I couldn't tell you if its the actress, writing, direction, or some jumble of the three.
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Wasn't a fan of Bill. I thought she'd grow on me as the series progressed, but found her just as dull by the end of the series as I did in the advert for her. Loved Nardole though and would have appreciated him having some more screen time.
The finale was largely good in my opinion with the ending, hopefully, setting up for a really interesting Christmas special exploring regeneration
I absolutely loved that final scene. Not just the reveal, but Capaldi's final lines calling back to the previous Doctors as well.
As for the reveal itself
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I'm 100% on board! Ever since David Bradley did such a sensitive and captivating job as Hartnell himself in An Adventure in Space And Time I've been hoping he'd get the chance to play the First Doctor proper at some point, and I think he'll do splendidly.
Though I'm still waiting for them to find some way to shoehorn Paul McGann's Doctor back in to the show somewhere!
Oh, and for added old-school awesomeness, I came across this yesterday. DO NOT WATCH if you haven't seen last week's episode yet, but it's really rather cool.
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I think some of them are red herrings. The next Doctor probably will be black or female. I will almost be disappointed if he/she isn't, with the amount of build-up...
Just read that! Good choice I think, going at the magic number 13, could be messy! She was very serious in Broadchurch but she a brill actor. Hopefully Matt Lucas comes back but I doubt it. In the minority probably but I'm not a fan of Bill.
I'm really surprised how close she's ended up looking to an online RPG version of the Doctor I've been watching for the past few months. Not identical, of course, but all things considered, I'm really surprised.
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The DW Facebook page has a number of "OMG you ruined DW!" type rants.
Majority of folks are pleased and the remainder are of the 'wait and see camp'
I think they had so much signposting for a female DW in the last series that it was almost inevitable.
I'm not familiar with the actor's work...and she obviously wont' be as good as Michelle Gomez as Missy...but I think a change of something in the formula is somewhat overdue.
Just read that! Good choice I think, going at the magic number 13, could be messy! She was very serious in Broadchurch but she a brill actor. Hopefully Matt Lucas comes back but I doubt it. In the minority probably but I'm not a fan of Bill.
I've never seen Broadchurch, but someone pointed out she was in "Attack the Block" with John Boyega.
Kind of torn on this, whilst a female Doctor is fine part of me thinks its a churlish parting shot from the Moff to make Chibnalls job an uphilll battle, although its not like the show can't get much worse
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
I imagine Moffat probably had a fair bit of input, in so far as he was probably part of the decision to cast a woman, even if it was Chibnall who got to actually make the final choice.
As for the casting itself, it, and by extension the show's next season, lives and dies on the writing. If they can write her as The Doctor then I'm all for it, the moment they start writing her as The Female Doctor then that runs the risk of being crass and heavy-handed. If they can pull off a Missy and capture the essence of the character and its history in a new performance then it'll go well.
Still annoyed they couldn't keep it under wraps until Christmas though. I was looking forward to a genuine surprise. I considered trying to avoid the news but figured that'd be all but impossible.
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