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Great to see the Resin starter set is up!

 Desubot wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Prices may be comparable, but 'quality' remains an unknown as this point.

*Especially* on the "PVC" side of things.

That's true and should definitely be considered.

Yeah cant wait to see some actual model photos rather than only renders.

I believe it was mentioned that the miniatures are away with a painting studio at the moment.

https://www.facebook.com/Modiphius/videos/1555983981111384/


video of models on sprue via their FB

Thanks for the video link.

@Pacific

Yes, it's been mentioned in the video as well that miniatures are currently undergoing painting.

Some highlights from the video:

- Model pictures should be taken next week.
- There will be all sorts of videos including high-res of the models, detailed game aspects and a more complete battle report than the short video we've seen
- After this first wave ships, there will be a second wave preorder for next summer that includes the Enclave, Raiders and the Institute.
- There is a Vault Dweller set in the works for the second wave that includes 3 Vault-Tec Security and 2 Vault Dwellers.

To be specific, it won’t be all the model, but it will be better shots of painted brotherhood and a super mutant.

These will be my painting, not the studio team (but once those are in house we will be racing to get photos there too!).

Just wanted to set peoples expectations.

I know everyone is keen to see actual models, and I agree it’s important so you know what you are buying in to. But we produce minis out of house, working with CMA who do a lot of the Hawk line, so we are not able to just pop down to the factory floor and grab production minis sadly.

Think £69.99 for the resin starter is a pretty good deal, there are enough 'classic' miniatures and designs in there that it will be worth it even if I don't end up collecting those at factions.

Plus the AI rules are an incentive to have a couple of models around as adversaries.

 JonWebb wrote:
To be specific, it won’t be all the model, but it will be better shots of painted brotherhood and a super mutant.

These will be my painting, not the studio team (but once those are in house we will be racing to get photos there too!).

Just wanted to set peoples expectations.

I know everyone is keen to see actual models, and I agree it’s important so you know what you are buying in to. But we produce minis out of house, working with CMA who do a lot of the Hawk line, so we are not able to just pop down to the factory floor and grab production minis sadly.

Thanks for the input. Considering the paint job on the sentry gun, that'll be plenty good.

Say, this might be an oddly specific request, but do you happen to know the length and width of the Corvega? I'm trying to build a scenery piece with a parking lot and trying to figure out spacing between the markings is driving me nuts.

 Alpharius wrote:
but 'quality' remains an unknown as this point.

cannot be emphasized enough - maybe modiphius is used to not having to show tangible things given their balliwick is traditionally RPGs

or since they're only doing pre-orders at the moment the PVC isn't actually done (or is done but isn't anywhere they can photograph it)

Seems a little 'cart before horse' but sure, maybe?

Geifer wrote:Thanks for the input. Considering the paint job on the sentry gun, that'll be plenty good.

Say, this might be an oddly specific request, but do you happen to know the length and width of the Corvega? I'm trying to build a scenery piece with a parking lot and trying to figure out spacing between the markings is driving me nuts.

Sadly I don’t. I’ve only handled the petrol pumps and fridge (Steve is our prod manager on this one, so he gets all the 3D prints, and I only get the scraps to play with )

Manchu wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
but 'quality' remains an unknown as this point.

cannot be emphasized enough - maybe modiphius is used to not having to show tangible things given their balliwick is traditionally RPGs

Modiphius are definitely evolving and learning as a company, as they expand both their product lines, game style and staffing. It’s a lovely team of people, and remember, we are a relatively small company who have been more focussed on RPGs and board games till recently (AC!Skirmish not withstanding)

I’ve been with the company for three months, having been recruited to help with their wargames expansion (after a stint with Warcradle working on WWX) and we then took on James who worked with Hawk to assist in that. So, we came on quite late in the Fallout process (though Chris and the team have certainly let us play our part) and are keen to help bring the wargamer mentality to the company... hell, it’s why we were hired.

We are all learning from this one, and are adapting and working as hard and fast as we can to get what people want to see out there, but it’s a complex world, dealing with third parties and licenses, vs an in house production on an IP you own.

None the less, I know you are all hungry for more (which is good! It shows passion and interest), and we are doing all we can. 3D prints of wave one have been through our hands and are now with CMA for mastering and casting, but this isn’t an overnight thing given the volume of sculpts we have sent their way. No one wishes it was more than me (other than maybe Chris and Steve who endure my daily query on when things are going to be in my grubby mits )

How long does the pre-order period last?

Hopefully long enough for us to get proper pics of production models?

 Alpharius wrote:
How long does the pre-order period last?

Hopefully long enough for us to get proper pics of production models?

According to Facebook February with releases in March, but pre-orders will be dispatched in the order they are received. So, if you want your pre-order stuff earlier than others it would be best to order now.

One more aside (before my girlfriend disowns me for working outside of office hours instead of giving her my undivided attention).

I’ve just had an email with finished shots of our Star Trek minis and the bulk of the Brotherhood starter, so expect to see those soon, once the painters ship them back to me. So yes, before the pre order ends :p

They look great, but you will have to wait a tiny bit longer so we can get them under the studio lights and into the hands of Sal our photographer and social media whizz.

Jon - I appreciate your position, I have caught glimpses here and there of the chaotic realities you're facing working for publishers. (Mini gaming especially is a small, small world.) That's actually why I speculated about Modiphius as an organization not fully appreciating how much minis gamers have come to loathe renders in the last five or so years of Kickstarter. The responses on DakkaDakka and other sites might be usefully quoted in a "how can we improve" memo before the ball gets rolling on a John Carter pre-order (my understanding is, that one will also involve minis). Definitely keep in mind that everyone here is grateful for your engagement.

What is the USD cutoff for Nuke Girl?

Also, from what I am seeing this is based in Europe so those of US will be paying a conversion fee for this or is there a US based seller we can pre-order from?

 Manchu wrote:
Jon - I appreciate your position, I have caught glimpses here and there of the chaotic realities you're facing working for publishers. (Mini gaming especially is a small, small world.) That's actually why I speculated about Modiphius as an organization not fully appreciating how much minis gamers have come to loathe renders in the last five or so years of Kickstarter. The responses on DakkaDakka and other sites might be usefully quoted in a "how can we improve" memo before the ball gets rolling on a John Carter pre-order (my understanding is, that one will also involve minis). Definitely keep in mind that everyone here is grateful for your engagement.

Not a problem, and thank you no one has said anything I feel has crossed a line or I haven’t said or thought myself as a gamer/consumer. Hell, I think sometimes we go easy on companies and could be a little more demanding. Just don’t tell the boss I said that

Ultimately, we are all gamers at Modiphius, same as you guys and gals. Each of us has our specific focuses and reference points so it’s always an interesting time debating the best path to take with games.

The post script on this one will be fed in to the machine as I’m not one to rest on my laurels and we can always learn and do better, no matter how good the end project. Once folks start getting the minis in their hands I think you will enjoy them, waiting is always a buzz kill. It’s why I’m going off long burn kickstarters.., especially for wargames.

John Carter minis... couldn’t possibly comment on what I’ve seen on that front

mightymconeshot wrote:
What is the USD cutoff for Nuke Girl?

Also, from what I am seeing this is based in Europe so those of US will be paying a conversion fee for this or is there a US based seller we can pre-order from?

Probably should of checked that my self. but from what i understand its 120 pounds. and if you are purchasing through paypal it does the conversion i think.

JonWebb wrote:One more aside (before my girlfriend disowns me for working outside of office hours instead of giving her my undivided attention).

I’ve just had an email with finished shots of our Star Trek minis and the bulk of the Brotherhood starter, so expect to see those soon, once the painters ship them back to me. So yes, before the pre order ends :p

Excellent - thank you!

 Manchu wrote:
Jon - I appreciate your position, I have caught glimpses here and there of the chaotic realities you're facing working for publishers. (Mini gaming especially is a small, small world.) That's actually why I speculated about Modiphius as an organization not fully appreciating how much minis gamers have come to loathe renders in the last five or so years of Kickstarter. The responses on DakkaDakka and other sites might be usefully quoted in a "how can we improve" memo before the ball gets rolling on a John Carter pre-order (my understanding is, that one will also involve minis). Definitely keep in mind that everyone here is grateful for your engagement.

Yes, definitely - so thank you again!

Price doesn't bother me at all, was better then I expected especially after buying warhammer crap the last few years. The long time in between pre order and shipping has me waiting until a retail release though.

On a side note I've seen some rumblings about waiting to buy in until everything goes on clearance. Why? Why wait until the game is dead to buy in, what's the point in that? I would rather spend a little more on a live game then spend money on something that won't ever have a new edition or updates.

 Rotgut wrote:
Price doesn't bother me at all, was better then I expected especially after buying warhammer crap the last few years. The long time in between pre order and shipping has me waiting until a retail release though.

On a side note I've seen some rumblings about waiting to buy in until everything goes on clearance. Why? Why wait until the game is dead to buy in, what's the point in that? I would rather spend a little more on a live game then spend money on something that won't ever have a new edition or updates.

Not to mention the best way of ensuring expansions come out and the game is fleshed out to include all F4 factions (like Gunners and Raider bands) and potentially even beyond to other Fallout games is to support it - by buying it. If someone wants to wait and 'hope' it dies so they can scoop a discount that's pretty poor.

Is there a way to upgrade the Vault Dweller Bundle to include the resin version of the starter instead of the pvc one?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Is there a way to upgrade the Vault Dweller Bundle to include the resin version of the starter instead of the pvc one?

It looks like we are working on a fix for that today, so hopefully yes, soon.

 JonWebb wrote:

Geifer wrote:Thanks for the input. Considering the paint job on the sentry gun, that'll be plenty good.

Say, this might be an oddly specific request, but do you happen to know the length and width of the Corvega? I'm trying to build a scenery piece with a parking lot and trying to figure out spacing between the markings is driving me nuts.

Sadly I don’t. I’ve only handled the petrol pumps and fridge (Steve is our prod manager on this one, so he gets all the 3D prints, and I only get the scraps to play with )

Thanks for the reply. It was worth a try.

 Manchu wrote:
Definitely keep in mind that everyone here is grateful for your engagement.

I'll echo this.

 Desubot wrote:

mightymconeshot wrote:
What is the USD cutoff for Nuke Girl?

Also, from what I am seeing this is based in Europe so those of US will be paying a conversion fee for this or is there a US based seller we can pre-order from?

Probably should of checked that my self. but from what i understand its 120 pounds. and if you are purchasing through paypal it does the conversion i think.

Yes, the threshold for getting Nuka-Girl is 120 pounds according to the store page, and if you pay via Paypal they'll handle the conversion automatically.

From reading Facebook it seems that Modiphius has no regional distributors as such and the initial preorder is based on buying from their online store and shipping from Britain. Then there will be independent store preorders starting at the end of November, which should allow you to buy in your region. I'm just going to assume that at least some American stores will be interested in this.

Living in the US I think the base game is a decent buy in. Looking at the cost of the add on's left me scratching my head. Typically I go all in but the all in price is way to extreme for me. Further more without the US distributors in yet I wouldn't want to imagine what shipping would cost.

Ordering the base game and paying probably a crazy amount for shipping with no real benefit to preorder the base game. I will wait til some of the retail stores start posting their pre orders before placing mine.

 JonWebb wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Is there a way to upgrade the Vault Dweller Bundle to include the resin version of the starter instead of the pvc one?

It looks like we are working on a fix for that today, so hopefully yes, soon.

Good to hear. Now to pay off some bills and scrape together the cash.

angel of death 007 wrote:
Living in the US I think the base game is a decent buy in. Looking at the cost of the add on's left me scratching my head. Typically I go all in but the all in price is way to extreme for me. Further more without the US distributors in yet I wouldn't want to imagine what shipping would cost.

Ordering the base game and paying probably a crazy amount for shipping with no real benefit to preorder the base game. I will wait til some of the retail stores start posting their pre orders before placing mine.

I'm still puzzled what you're comparing it to to think the expansion sets are expensive.

Vorian wrote:

angel of death 007 wrote:
Living in the US I think the base game is a decent buy in. Looking at the cost of the add on's left me scratching my head. Typically I go all in but the all in price is way to extreme for me. Further more without the US distributors in yet I wouldn't want to imagine what shipping would cost.

Ordering the base game and paying probably a crazy amount for shipping with no real benefit to preorder the base game. I will wait til some of the retail stores start posting their pre orders before placing mine.

I'm still puzzled what you're comparing it to to think the expansion sets are expensive.

If something costs more than you're willing to pay, you can think it too expensive without requiring a comparison.

None of the Fallout 3/4 factions really interest me, beside maybe the Minutemen if they flesh them out.

If they put out some New Vegas factions I'll throw down cash in a heartbeat. I guess it's better this way, since it gives me time to observe and see if the game is a success or not, specifically in the local scene.

 Arbitrator wrote:
None of the Fallout 3/4 factions really interest me, beside maybe the Minutemen if they flesh them out.

If they put out some New Vegas factions I'll throw down cash in a heartbeat. I guess it's better this way, since it gives me time to observe and see if the game is a success or not, specifically in the local scene.

Maybe you should make your own Fallout. With Blackjack and hookers!

While I'm happy with the East Coast setting starting things off, there is some cross compatibility. Super Mutants, critters, civilians and Minutemen, robots are all good for New Vegas and further west. It's why I had hoped Raiders would be among the initial release. They're both generic enough for the entire US and another staple of Fallout.

Seeing the new resin start set up on the site now. With the pricing update for the big bundle, wondering if there will be an option for the bundle with the resin starter. Get everything in resin.. Crossing fingers....