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 DaveC wrote:
More upcoming stuff from the open day (pictures by Fisty Glueman)



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Am I the only one who saw the rack and then the chair and now have Monty Python running through my head saying "the comfy chair"

 judgedoug wrote:

 Fugazi wrote:
Not to rant, but this kind of thing bothers me and smacks of no intelligible thought.
...
"Mantic...almost."

"Fugazi...almost"

Or in this instance: Not even close.

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I am well pleased by the mantic open day boost, especially since we just had that boost for hitting 325 or whatever.

I'm most fearful of a fourth crate I'd be tempted to spring for... But otherwise i think I can convince myself to stay invested here .

The Stargate looks very tempting, but only if there's a duplicate.

You have to have a backup Stargate.

Other than those who are interested in sf terrain, anyone still on the fence on this?

Chair added, social goal bonuses added, another three bonus pieces added in a few hours, etc. etc.

250+ pieces for $180 (550 pledges left), almost 100 for the Dungeon Crate.

Better start pricing for that Army Painter Leather Brown color primer!

Ugh.. I am in for one of each. I hate myself for that but ultimately this has become a "buy this and never worry about terrain again" type of thing.


An interesting side effect of this though.. Reaper's Bones kickstarters have often utilized the lack of readily available cheap scatter terrain elements to increase the value of those campaigns. I wonder how it will impact their future decisions.

Interesting point. They're gonna run out of dudes to convert eventually too... though I guess they make new ones for Bones campaigns as well.

Regardless of the (potentially) negative effects between the two types of campaign, backing both sure means you're set for almost anything

ced1106 wrote:
Other than those who are interested in sf terrain, anyone still on the fence on this?
Chair added, social goal bonuses added, another three bonus pieces added in a few hours, etc. etc.
250+ pieces for $180 (550 pledges left), almost 100 for the Dungeon Crate.
Better start pricing for that Army Painter Leather Brown color primer!

I've moved from not willing to back to onto the fence. If Mantic don't decide to pull a fast one on shipping, and despite my misgivings about the way they have handled a lot of other things, including the digital KoW2 rulebooks, but I do like my scatter terrain, Mantic did a good job with the Mars Attacks and Dungeon Saga stuff and a fire-and forget campaign for a big pile of it in a better material than DS is indeed tempting me onto the fence.

I was all-in on day 1 and now only more so. And I only have an immediate use for debris and walls and fences for KoW, the rest is just hoarding

At this point, I'm mainly trying to talk myself out of picking an additional dungeon crate set to round this off to $200.

I am still totally on the fence about this one. Value is great, variety is very good and applications are unlimited, but... I just can't bring myself to splurge that amount of money (and an appropriate amount of storage space and hobby time) to get everything. Would be a great wargaming community project for sure, though.

I want about half of the dungeon set and about half of the battlefield set, but I don't want to spend the money for two boxes. That is what is keeping me from caving in.

 JoshInJapan wrote:
I want about half of the dungeon set and about half of the battlefield set, but I don't want to spend the money for two boxes. That is what is keeping me from caving in.

They were supposed to add the option of an add-on for specific subsets within the crates. I don't remember the details but I thought it was like 20 bucks each or something.. Again.. can't remember but I know it was an option being discussed.

Here are the sets currently offered. $20 each. $30 MSRP.

The contents of each set are shown in the crates. Each crate has four sets.

If you only want half of a set... dunno. Wait to see what the Reaper Bones KS will offer.

EDIT: Animesensei on the Dwarven Forge forums crunched the price per piece to be $0.68. Not bad!

I noticed that a lot of what is on offer for this KS is very RP centric and less of the sort of thing you might see for most tabletop gaming.. outside of skirmish with specific scenarios, dioramas, or little finishing touches..

So.. I asked Mantic if this meant they might have an RPG in the works..


..sadly.. no.. they don't.. though they said it was a good idea, there's nothing in development.

Just thought I would post it in case anyone else was wodnering.

That's a point. I think there are plenty of generic fantasy RPGs on the market (not to mention dungeoncrawler games and miniature skirmish games) that Mantic might as well put their effort into bringing product that fills a demand (cheap terrain in bulk), rather than competes against other product. AFAIK, someone posted another company that made plastic terrain, but hasn't said if the price is still cheaper or competitive against this KS or when the terrain hits retail.

EDIT: Mantic to release a miniatures skirmish game! Yes, I'm not on the regular Mantic thread. : https://www.mantic.club/forum/kings-of-war/general-discussion-aa/314648-terraincrate-kickstarter

EDIT EDIT: Whoops! Fixed the link!

CED - That link doesn't go to anything about a skirmish game.. do you have more info?

Dagnabbit! Durn technology!

Here's the link : https://www.mantic.club/forum/kings-of-war/general-discussion-aa/314648-terraincrate-kickstarter

Doesn't say much, other than "They told us at the last Mantic open day that a skirmish variant is due this year, sometime after the summer campaign"

2K to go to the 210K SG! Keep posting on your social networky thingamabobbers.

 MLaw wrote:
I noticed that a lot of what is on offer for this KS is very RP centric and less of the sort of thing you might see for most tabletop gaming.. outside of skirmish with specific scenarios, dioramas, or little finishing touches..

So.. I asked Mantic if this meant they might have an RPG in the works..


..sadly.. no.. they don't.. though they said it was a good idea, there's nothing in development.

Just thought I would post it in case anyone else was wodnering.

Ronnie doesn't feel it's within their skill set to produce, never say never, but not never is definitely a long way away.

Besides which, IMO the world needs more detail to provide a good setting.

ced1106 wrote:
Dagnabbit! Durn technology!

Here's the link : https://www.mantic.club/forum/kings-of-war/general-discussion-aa/314648-terraincrate-kickstarter

Doesn't say much, other than "They told us at the last Mantic open day that a skirmish variant is due this year, sometime after the summer campaign"

2K to go to the 210K SG! Keep posting on your social networky thingamabobbers.

It was described to me as "the skirmishing forces meeting before Waterloo", so more akin to a Kings of War version of Warpath: Firefight than Deadzone or Mordheim

 Baragash wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
I noticed that a lot of what is on offer for this KS is very RP centric and less of the sort of thing you might see for most tabletop gaming.. outside of skirmish with specific scenarios, dioramas, or little finishing touches..

So.. I asked Mantic if this meant they might have an RPG in the works..


..sadly.. no.. they don't.. though they said it was a good idea, there's nothing in development.

Just thought I would post it in case anyone else was wodnering.

Ronnie doesn't feel it's within their skill set to produce, never say never, but not never is definitely a long way away.

Besides which, IMO the world needs more detail to provide a good setting.

That's a bit of a catch 22 though.. RPGs and supplements and expansions are a MASSIVE way of building that sort of thing. I was looking over the ranges and this kickstarter specifically.. They don't have a lot of the iconic symbology and just general product identity that makes the main competition so memorable. People remember the Skaven symbol, the 2-tailed comet, those crazy heart, phoenix, and lion shapes from the Elves, the runes and symbols for the Dwarves.. all of it.. Mantic is really just super generic in those departments. So visually they need to grow and build that sort of thing but also.. thought into campaign settings (where the RPG thing comes in). Warhammer FB's RPG embellished on a lot of that for GW.. in the same way the campaign settings for D&D, Pathfinder, White Wolf games, Shadowrun, Battletech. Maybe novels can pick up some of that slack but without world books to flesh out things like the belief system of the Basileans, the rituals involved with bringing in the undead,, power struggles of the various Orc and/or Goblin tribes, or the areas and types of game the Ogres hunt. To me that's really MORE of a reason to push for an RPG, even if it's basically a slightly scaled up version of Dungeon Saga with some light RP elements.


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 NTRabbit wrote:

ced1106 wrote:
Dagnabbit! Durn technology!

Here's the link : https://www.mantic.club/forum/kings-of-war/general-discussion-aa/314648-terraincrate-kickstarter

Doesn't say much, other than "They told us at the last Mantic open day that a skirmish variant is due this year, sometime after the summer campaign"

2K to go to the 210K SG! Keep posting on your social networky thingamabobbers.

It was described to me as "the skirmishing forces meeting before Waterloo", so more akin to a Kings of War version of Warpath: Firefight than Deadzone or Mordheim

So still keeping to units in the traditional sense rather than individual models and characters? Hopefully that doesn't open the door to unnecessary complication..

Latest update has pics of miniatures to scale.

Plus double SG at 450K!!!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/terraincrate-plastic-affordable-fantasy-terrain/posts/1881862

Someone needs less fibre in their diet

 NTRabbit wrote:
Someone needs less fibre in their diet

Lol.

You'd have thought the grey would have worked better for that piece.

I keep waffling on whether I want in on this or not. Many of the pieces look neat, but seem a bit knick-knackery for wargaming. Most of my skirmish games are largely set outdoors, so I'm having a hard time justifying the purchase. Sure they would look neat, but not add much in function, and probably not add as much even visually as a similar amount of money spent on existing resin terrain, like buildings and ruins.

I figure that some of the smaller knick-knackery pieces will look great either based up in a group as scatter terrain, or built directly into larger terrain pieces or even monster bases.

Did you see the digital reconstruction of 16th century Edinburgh right after a battle? Loads of heaps of sacks and carts and such in the streets, presumably due to looting.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/uk/political-intrigue-english-oppression-researchers-unveil-unique-view-edinburgh-470-years-ago/

 NTRabbit wrote:
Someone needs less fibre in their diet

I can't stop laughing at that.. Am I mistaken in thinking there's actually a legitimate miniature poo next to the horse in the stable set?

There is poo! And it fits in the wheelbarrow! Now, all we need is some enterprising miniatures company to make some stable hands.

More goodies coming up. The coal fits into the mine cart, btw. Rocks are there to fall so everybody dies.

ced1106 wrote:
There is poo! And it fits in the wheelbarrow! Now, all we need is some enterprising miniatures company to make some stable hands.

Otherworld have got loads of models in that vein, if folk actually do need some.

This stable boy for example, or the mule handlers.

 Ian Sturrock wrote:
I figure that some of the smaller knick-knackery pieces will look great either based up in a group as scatter terrain, or built directly into larger terrain pieces or even monster bases.

Did you see the digital reconstruction of 16th century Edinburgh right after a battle? Loads of heaps of sacks and carts and such in the streets, presumably due to looting.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/uk/political-intrigue-english-oppression-researchers-unveil-unique-view-edinburgh-470-years-ago/

Oh damn that's cool, how'd I miss this.