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I'd pick up a squad to ally in with Guard or Talons - whether I'd do an army would depend on the quality of the models and whether they go for the exaggerated GW-style (ala GW Exorcist) or the more subdued FW-style (e.g. FW Exorcit, Repressor).

 NenkotaMoon wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Sorry i'm still upset over WHFB getting canned.

Squatted means an army gets destroyed and the squats were the dwarf 40k faction that got discontinued. I just use the term more liberally. Dark eldar may get discontinued and i'm afraid for them as i play them.

Squats for your info for the future were canned not to sales, but to lore. Their models sold well enough.

I heard people say it was because they were too goofy but i dunno. Orks are a thing so whatever.

 Asmodai wrote:
I'd pick up a squad to ally in with Guard or Talons - whether I'd do an army would depend on the quality of the models and whether they go for the exaggerated GW-style (ala GW Exorcist) or the more subdued FW-style (e.g. FW Exorcit, Repressor).

Exaggerated is the principal core of 40k. Grimdark is a term because warhammer is just grim and dark up to 11.

Is a dude into a mechanical Throne with a flamer and a sword exaggerated? Yes.

It is ultra cool? YES!



I can see the appeal that people find in the more realistic and subdued FW desings, but personally to me thats not the real 40k. 40k is about being so absurd that it goes full circle back to awesome. Sometimes they fail and just stick into absurd, but when they do it right... oh boy. Thats something to contemplate.

YMMV, IMO, 2000AD, ATSKNF, etc...

 Popsghostly wrote:
I totally want plastic sisters. The metal ones have absolutely no conversion ability... The metal ones are sculpted well I must say they've stood the time so far. But metal is just so difficult because there's always the chip factor.

They're ridiculously good sculpts to have lasted this long without looking totally goofy like 2nd ed Orks, marines, early nids, etc do now. That said GW clearly still hadn't figured out how faces or hair worked yet.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

There's a bunch of extreme people that like Sisters and more just the fact that they're all female rather than the whole theme of religious nuns.

Considering that Sisters of Battle are an all women army in a setting and model line that's 90% male, that's indeed intended to be a selling arguments for them. Since it's something they are recognisable and unique for (there are no other army with exclusively women models, but several with exclusively men models), it's logical that it would attract people for it. In the same fashion, it probably deters some people from playing them and attract people to armies that have exclusively men models.

I do hope if we do get plastic sisters we get a few new units, a plastic mid level Stormtalon-esque fighter, and a heavy transport like the Land Raider Redeemer would be nice and require very little retooling. That and a Terminator like unit...more weapon options for the Canoness...I mean...Power Fist...jetpack...or lighting claws...*goes off rambling*...ohhhh daemon hammers....grav...Sisters Drop Pods that look like cathedrals with flamethrowers...*continues rambling....*

epronovost wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

There's a bunch of extreme people that like Sisters and more just the fact that they're all female rather than the whole theme of religious nuns.

Considering that Sisters of Battle are an all women army in a setting and model line that's 90% male, that's indeed intended to be a selling arguments for them. Since it's something they are recognisable and unique for (there are no other army with exclusively women models, but several with exclusively men models), it's logical that it would attract people for it. In the same fashion, it probably deters some people from playing them and attract people to armies that have exclusively men models.

I know i'm just saying there's quite a few women in warhammer (old fantasy) and 40k. Mostly in old fantasy with both undead factions, all 3 elf factions, ogres and i think a couple other factions. That's at least 6 factions. For 40k both eldar factions, sisters and maybe a couple old guardsman models.

I can understand certain appeals though. Fantasy appealed to me because it was normal humans fighting impossible threats. There was no space marines. Sigh.

 KingmanHighborn wrote:
I do hope if we do get plastic sisters we get a few new units, a plastic mid level Stormtalon-esque fighter, and a heavy transport like the Land Raider Redeemer would be nice and require very little retooling. That and a Terminator like unit...more weapon options for the Canoness...I mean...Power Fist...jetpack...or lighting claws...*goes off rambling*...ohhhh daemon hammers....grav...Sisters Drop Pods that look like cathedrals with flamethrowers...*continues rambling....*

Canoness with Lighting Claws are you saying? Hmmm

Voted no, Already have my flavor of power armor, dark angels. Never really got the lure of the SoB

Do you like power armor?
Yeah
Do You Like flame throwers?
Oh Yeah!
Do you like gakky space marines?
What?
I mean like ballistic skill 3, toughness 3, knowing fear the whole time...
Uhh wait...
BDSM warrior nuns on a mission from the emperor
WTF
Wielding double D's (death and destruction, what were you thinking) to purge the xenos and heretics
I think we are done here...

 KingmanHighborn wrote:
Sisters Drop Pods that look like cathedrals with flamethrowers...*continues rambling....*

That sounds pretty rad.

I run Sisters more for the fact that they're all female rather than the religious nuns thing as was mentioned. I convert all my models normally, but I actually rather like the way sisters look in artwork. I could do nifty things with that as a base model. I'm already making repentia out of aelves from fantasy and big ol' great axes.

 KingmanHighborn wrote:
I do hope if we do get plastic sisters we get a few new units, a plastic mid level Stormtalon-esque fighter, and a heavy transport like the Land Raider Redeemer would be nice and require very little retooling. That and a Terminator like unit...more weapon options for the Canoness...I mean...Power Fist...jetpack...or lighting claws...*goes off rambling*...ohhhh daemon hammers....grav...Sisters Drop Pods that look like cathedrals with flamethrowers...*continues rambling....*

I want bikes, more 'ducati' than 'chopper' though.


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 Grimgold wrote:
Voted no, Already have my flavor of power armor, dark angels. Never really got the lure of the SoB

Do you like power armor?
Yeah
Do You Like flame throwers?
Oh Yeah!
Do you like gakky space marines?
What?
I mean like ballistic skill 3, toughness 3, knowing fear the whole time...
Uhh wait...
BDSM warrior nuns on a mission from the emperor
WTF
Wielding double D's (death and destruction, what were you thinking) to purge the xenos and heretics
I think we are done here...

We're BS 4. And 'gakky space marine' is absolutely redundant.

ERJAK wrote:

 KingmanHighborn wrote:
I do hope if we do get plastic sisters we get a few new units, a plastic mid level Stormtalon-esque fighter, and a heavy transport like the Land Raider Redeemer would be nice and require very little retooling. That and a Terminator like unit...more weapon options for the Canoness...I mean...Power Fist...jetpack...or lighting claws...*goes off rambling*...ohhhh daemon hammers....grav...Sisters Drop Pods that look like cathedrals with flamethrowers...*continues rambling....*

I want bikes, more 'ducati' than 'chopper' though.

I can see something like this selling like hotcakes:


I have realized that I'm here just linking pics of other miniature manufacturers... but... see GW what you have me do! I could have been linking images to your proper miniatures!

ERJAK wrote:

 KingmanHighborn wrote:
I do hope if we do get plastic sisters we get a few new units, a plastic mid level Stormtalon-esque fighter, and a heavy transport like the Land Raider Redeemer would be nice and require very little retooling. That and a Terminator like unit...more weapon options for the Canoness...I mean...Power Fist...jetpack...or lighting claws...*goes off rambling*...ohhhh daemon hammers....grav...Sisters Drop Pods that look like cathedrals with flamethrowers...*continues rambling....*

I want bikes, more 'ducati' than 'chopper' though.

Oooh! How about http://privateerpress.com/files/products/32099_ServathReznikWrathofAges_WEB.jpg, only with slightly more cybernetic horses and a Canoness at the helm?

(And if bikes are happening I want flamers on the handlebars instead of bolters. Yes, they're driving through the bow-wave of burning fuel they're ejecting. Make the armour look a bit more like a fire-suit (like the 30k Pyroclasts with the extra face shield) and you're good to go.)

Not at all interested in sister models.
However, their auxiliaries might be interesting for my inq army.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
There's not many of us, but we're fairly vocal because our army has been neglected for quite some time.

I, for one, would have like to have an actual print codex [again], like every other army, instead of a White Dwarf article, E-book, then small section of a book dedicated to providing a small selection of "background" Imperial organizations. Look, the f****** STORMTROOPERS got their own book, hardcover and all, and they're a single d*** Elites choice for the Imperial Guard. If you can print a hardcover book for the Stormtroopers and their 4 different unit options, you can print a book for us, we have at least twice as many different units and ten times more fluff.

I actually really like the metal figures, though. They're just expensive. Of course, I wouldn't pass up the opportunity to triple the size of my army for the same amount I've already spent.


I do wonder how many people would buy plastic Sisters, though. Those of us who currently play Sisters have a fair amount of things as is, and while we'd definitely buy more figures if they came out in plastic, there aren't that many of us and there's a point where you'd have more things than you know what to do with. So the question really is "how many new players would pick up the army?", and I don't think that number is actually all that high. GW probably is better served by making more Space Marines, or Tauroxes nobody asked for, or overpowered Tau battlesuits.

You're poll probably isn't accurate, though, since only people who really care will bother responding to it. IE: those of us who currently play Sisters, those who would play Sisters but balk at the $100/squad price, and those who hate our army and/or want to harass those of us who like it.

100 USD for a squad makes you sound like you're super rich, hate yourself or both. May as well be forgeworld prices at that point.

Just be glad GW didn't squat your setting like WHF. They also squatted tomb kings and bretonnia (poor players). Bretonnia hadn't been updated in years. I played skaven and they weren't updated since 2008 or so and the game died in 2015 so about 7 years with an 8 page FAQ that didn't answer all problems. I don't quite know your pain army-wise but at least your setting remains intact enough that you can play another faction and not just be super pissed at what they did to your game making it super hard to play a game that you enjoyed. Seriously i can't even play WHFB in the local GW store. They actively won't allow it. Hell they actively treat that portion of the player base like ****. GW are ****s.

I don't play guard anymore but the tauroxes looked cool. I also would've wanted to make a stormtrooper army but there's only 2 or 3 units so it's not legit. I do dark eldar now and we kinda suck but at least the FAQ was under control and you could do ok if you didn't play one of the OP factions like tau, eldar or maybe marines with a formation.

While i do feel bad for you and other more normal Sisters players there's generally a bunch of Sisters players lately i have a hard time feeling bad for. There's a bunch of extreme people that like Sisters and more just the fact that they're all female rather than the whole theme of religious nuns.

I am neither rich nor do I hate myself, and $100 is a bit of an exaggeration. Currently, it costs $80 for 1 Superior, 1 Simulacrum, 1 Meltagun, 1 Storm Bolter, and 6 regular Sisters. Then, it costs $10 per additional special weapon so you can replace the Meltagun and Storm Bolter with Flamers or an extra Meltagun. A minimum squad is actually 5 models though, and if you buy the pack of 5 regular Sisters for $35, 4 special weapons, and 2 Superiors, you come up to $50 per 5-girl minimum-size squad [and you're going to also want a $40 transport tank for every squad you have, but that's besides the point, because the 10-girl squad would also like a $40 transport]. I am informed that this is not unreasonable considering the price of pewter, and am willing to pay this, but would also appreciate plastic figures who don't cost so much.

I play Guard, and I hate Tauroxes. First off, Chimerae were plenty good. They were everything I could ask for in an IFV, and with Forgeworld they could have an Autocannon. Then comes the Taurox. It's ugly as all hell, and most importantly, it's blantant power creep. GW didn't try to hide the fact that it was supposed to be better than the Chimera. It got up-gunned, with a TL Autocannon over our Multilaser and Heavy Bolter, replaced Amphibious with an actually useful special rule, and, at the same time, the Chimera was nerfed [lost 3 fire points] and increased in points cost by ten points so the Taurox would be 15 points cheaper. I might be inclined to like the Taurox more if it was an M3 Halftrack instead of whatever the hell that 4-tracked monstrosity is.

Now, I'm not sure how to respond to your last statement, because I'm not sure exactly who your vitrol is directed at, but I will say that if my army wasn't both all female and an order of otherwise ordinary people who, though unshakable blind faith and an unhealthy cult of martyrdom, equal and exceed the capabilities of genetically engineered killing machines, [and didn't have by far the prettiest models of GW's entire line up], I might not be playing this army. At the very least, I wouldn't like it if we wore chainmail bikinis.

I hate the Taurox..

I like the idea of homicidal space nuns with chainsaws and flamethrowers. I enjoy the ridiculous, heavy metal aspect of 40k. That said, if there are new plastic sisters I think it would be cool if the boob plates got toned down and the battle scars and scariness got turned up.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
...I play Guard, and I hate Tauroxes. First off, Chimerae were plenty good. They were everything I could ask for in an IFV, and with Forgeworld they could have an Autocannon. Then comes the Taurox. It's ugly as all hell, and most importantly, it's blantant power creep. GW didn't try to hide the fact that it was supposed to be better than the Chimera. It got up-gunned, with a TL Autocannon over our Multilaser and Heavy Bolter, replaced Amphibious with an actually useful special rule, and, at the same time, the Chimera was nerfed [lost 3 fire points] and increased in points cost by ten points so the Taurox would be 15 points cheaper. I might be inclined to like the Taurox more if it was an M3 Halftrack instead of whatever the hell that 4-tracked monstrosity is...

(It's an MRAP with tracks stuck on in place of wheels to make it look more future-y.)

(Personally the thing that annoys me the most about the Taurox is that I'm misunderstood the first time whenever I want to say anything about a Tauros (you know, the dune buggy, not that stupid tracked MRAP?), but that may be because my interaction with Guard is an airborne force that only exists because GW took away my Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, so I never used Chimeras in the first place.)

what do people have against boob plates I don't know.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
I like the idea of homicidal space nuns with chainsaws and flamethrowers. I enjoy the ridiculous, heavy metal aspect of 40k. That said, if there are new plastic sisters I think it would be cool if the boob plates got toned down and the battle scars and scariness got turned up.

Also the helmets. Let me put those helmets on a full squad or two without spending exorbitant amounts of money and cutting up huge chunks of pewter and I will be very happy.


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 NenkotaMoon wrote:
what do people have against boob plates I don't know.

Oh, here we go...

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
I like the idea of homicidal space nuns with chainsaws and flamethrowers. I enjoy the ridiculous, heavy metal aspect of 40k. That said, if there are new plastic sisters I think it would be cool if the boob plates got toned down and the battle scars and scariness got turned up.

Also the helmets. Let me put those helmets on a full squad or two without spending exorbitant amounts of money and cutting up huge chunks of pewter and I will be very happy.


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 NenkotaMoon wrote:
what do people have against boob plates I don't know.

Oh, here we go...

Sisters of Battle Helmets are without a doubt my favourite style of Helmets in all of 40k. I don't know why, because the Breacher Firewarrior helmets are ultra cool, but the SoB ones... hmmm...
If they where affordable I'll buyt them just to use with my Imperial Guard and Space Marines.
Just look at this. Beautiful.

More boob plates for the SOB, and I want crotch plates for the SM. MAKE IT HAPPEN GW!!!!

NenkotaMoon wrote:what do people have against boob plates I don't know.

I like them.

Also, I like the helmetless models much more than the helmeted ones. I just don't like helmets, not specifically the Sororitas helmet.

Grimgold wrote:Voted no, Already have my flavor of power armor, dark angels. Never really got the lure of the SoB

Do you like power armor?
Yeah
Do You Like flame throwers?
Oh Yeah!
Do you like gakky space marines?
What?
I mean like ballistic skill 3, toughness 3, knowing fear the whole time...
Uhh wait...
BDSM warrior nuns on a mission from the emperor
WTF
Wielding double D's (death and destruction, what were you thinking) to purge the xenos and heretics
I think we are done here...

We're not gakky space marines, we're better than space marines, and we don't need genetic augmentation to be that way, just our indomitable faith, unshakable resolve, and obsession with dying gloriously in His name!

Sister of Battle are my flavor of power armor. Never liked Space Marines, but I love my Sisters to death. We've got a tank that's a rolling pipe organ, jump infantry with jetpacks that have their exhausts arrayed to make fiery angelic wings, a literal archangel of the Emperor, and gold and silver on just about everything. Space Marines are just so bland, and I've got my Guardsmen for the military feel.

Also, we're BS4.

Plastic sisters....to go with some Ordo Hereticus Inquisitors? Yes, oh yes I would.

The helmet ones look like they are wearing underwear on their heads.

AnomanderRake wrote: Oooh! How about http://privateerpress.com/files/products/32099_ServathReznikWrathofAges_WEB.jpg, only with slightly more cybernetic horses and a Canoness at the helm?

(And if bikes are happening I want flamers on the handlebars instead of bolters. Yes, they're driving through the bow-wave of burning fuel they're ejecting. Make the armour look a bit more like a fire-suit (like the 30k Pyroclasts with the extra face shield) and you're good to go.)

Ooooooh yeah that would be a freaking awesome idea.

Galas wrote:
Canoness with Lighting Claws are you saying? Hmmm

Spoiler:

Its dangerous to go alone, take this...

Beautiful. Simply beautiful.

 NenkotaMoon wrote:
The helmet ones look like they are wearing underwear on their heads.

Or they look like Byzantine cataphracts, with the nice defined top bit going all featureless below the eyes.

...Now I'm wondering what would happen if you ran across Byzantine cataphracts wearing their underwear on their heads. I don't know what passed for underwear in the 8th century but I'm pretty sure it wasn't elasticized.

NenkotaMoon, you're taking this thread off topic. Cease with this kind of post.

If you're going to post something, do not derail the conversation.

What did I say? PM Please.