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Inquisitor in Power Armour could even be a datasheet akin to how Marines split up different armour options.

I would like to see them give incentive to field a variety of Inquisitors - just to avoid the inevitable everyone playing Power Armor Inquisitors.

Maybe give plain clothes Inquisitors more Psychic abilities vs Power armor and Terminator armor.

 Da-Rock wrote:
I would like to see them give incentive to field a variety of Inquisitors - just to avoid the inevitable everyone playing Power Armor Inquisitors.

Maybe give plain clothes Inquisitors more Psychic abilities vs Power armor and Terminator armor.

That or perhaps a relic that swaps for the basic armour so you have to choose between it and more durability of a better save.

That said, more options all around would be good. So many potential things wasted at the moment because of the nature on the Index armies.


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 daedalus wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

I disagree, but mostly because it seems like a cumbersome way to use them unless you're just trying to fill Elite slots cheaply for a Brigade detachment. I feel like they have a use, even if it's just a dedicated character hunter. I'm still in the planning stages though so my opinion is theoretical at most.

I guess character hunting is a use. I was picturing them with an Inquisitor in a separate Vanguard. 87-119 points + whatever loadout for three to six extra special weapons tucked away in vehicles AND a character with real smite AND +1 CP is really not the worst choice you could make for a marine army.

While true, I'm not building a Marine army.

Though if I did, Red Hunters would likely be at the top of my list. Nice bright red colour and good fluff to pair with an Inquisitor.

I need help with selecting my armies Leader. I need a big figure head with enough power to compensate for the rest of my army's lack of killing power....(I run more for theme).

Can anyone help me with ideas and or comments on my current choices?

Primarch Roboute Guilliman - An over cost in points for getting use of of his 12" Imperial reroll of 1s, but he is a Melee force that can contend with our gaming groups Knights, Magnus and other big dogs.

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight armor - Better cost and has some cool Psychic abilities. Strong shooty and melee abilities.

The others were Lord Draigo, Voldus and the Custodes HQ. I was also looking at using a chaos looking model for Roboute and play it as my Inquisitors experimenting with an advanced Daemaonhost.

* I guess I should add Inquisitor Karamazov as an option because I can modify a custom version of him. His powers are just ok.

There was an Inquisition/Custodes team-up in Carrion Throne and with the Custodes running around the galaxy I could see them teaming up occasionally with the Inquisition since they have the same level of authority (answering only to the Emperor himself).

I needs my inquisition love.

What should I run with my Inquisitors? Crusaders? Acolytes? Daemonhosts are bad... and I actually have really awesome primaris psyker and tech priest models.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
I needs my inquisition love.

What should I run with my Inquisitors? Crusaders? Acolytes? Daemonhosts are bad... and I actually have really awesome primaris psyker and tech priest models.

Crusaders can ride in Astra Militarum vehicles now, which makes them more attractive than DCA in terms of keeping your points down (plus, you know, 3++ is still pretty good even on T3). Plus the Taurox looks like a better gun platform for support than the Sororitas Rhino (which DCA can ride in). Alternatively you can put them in a Valkryie.

I like Alcolytes as wound soakers (plus they can be relatively cheap dakka), so I'd probably look at something like 5 Crusaders, 5 Alcolytes with Storm Bolters, Inquisitor and Priest in a Valkyrie or some varient of that mix, and basically drop them in as a block near something I want dead.

EDIT: Anyone else feel like Inquisitors have to be fairly aggressive? All of their weapon options are 24" or less and the psychic powers don't have long ranges if you go that route.

What do you guys think of Inquisitor Eisenhorn and his new rules?!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/22/inquisitor-eisenhorn-tabletop/

Eisenhorn looks interesting but not too beatsticky, I was more interested in a little bit later in the article when they were talking about open and narrative play:

Of the many soldiers who’ve served alongside Eisenhorn, Godwyn Fischig and Harlon Nayl are among the most memorable and skilled. Fischig is an Adeptus Arbites officer recruited from the same world as Bequin, while Nayl was a bounty hunter, skilled at tracking and taking down prey. Both could be well represented by the datasheet for a Tempestor Prime, though perhaps swapping out weapons for a sturdy combat shotgun for Fischig, and a heavy stubber for Nayl, to represent the kind of high-calibre weapons he prefers.

Shotguns and Heavy Stubbers are DEFINITELY not Tempestor Prime options so it was interesting to see that offered up for casual play. Perchance a hint at some build-your-own-alcolyte rules for the future ala the CA special Land Raider Open Play rules?

Eisenhorn seems a little too much like the other standard Inquisitors minus the Daemonhost.

Maybe it's just the lack of Psychic spells we have at the moment.

 Da-Rock wrote:
Eisenhorn seems a little too much like the other standard Inquisitors minus the Daemonhost.

Maybe it's just the lack of Psychic spells we have at the moment.

It's likely partly due to psychic powers, and partly to do with the fact no one seems to be allowed to have a 2+ for BS or WS. I guess they feel <Quarry> would be too strong with a 2+?

Which is silly, since most other factions have (far more potent) characters who can easily get 2+/rerolling 1s with little issue and less conditionally.

 Icculus wrote:
What do you guys think of Inquisitor Eisenhorn and his new rules?!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/22/inquisitor-eisenhorn-tabletop/

He’s ok... he’s basically a 2 power psyker for 100pts (but his power choices kinda suck)
His str3 ap-3 dam 1, 4x atk, 2+ to hit sword isn’t going to scare anyone and while his 4+ mortal wound to vehicles grenade is cool it’s 6in isn’t going to be reliable. He does have his quarry which allows reroll a of 1 for hit and wound vs xenos. But he’s overall blah...

The only reason to take him is to have him follow around his demonhost who you also have to pay for (25pts) but is competitively priced.
At str6 toughness 6 wound 5, 4 atk, and +1 to hit (3+), +1 to wound, +1 invul (4++)
Doing 4x str6 -3ap dam1 and a str8 assault 1 -1ap shooting atk that does 3 dam on 5/6 to wound roll. Plus the random demonhost effect. It’s a nice demonhost rules for the cost however If Eisenhorn dies so does the demonhost and Eisenhorn desperately needs an invuln save to not die so easily. If Eisenhorn had a better selection of psychic powers I’d say it’s a decent 125 pt unit with Eisenhorn buffing the demonhost. As he is now he is only useful for narrative games. I don’t see a roll for these 2 models in most armies especially since the demonhost model isn’t even sold anymore.

That said I’m still buying it.

 Fafnir wrote:
Which is silly, since most other factions have (far more potent) characters who can easily get 2+/rerolling 1s with little issue and less conditionally.

While true, I still wouldn't be shocked if that was the mentality against it. That or they forget there are other humans in the game with 2+ WS or BS that aren't Marines or Celestine.

Oh, thinking of things: were is my option to have my Inquisitor glanding drugs to keep himself functioning in day to day life and hitting like a truck in combat?

So I am thinking of the following in a list somehow:

Valkyrie w/ lascannon, MRP
Chimera w/ 2 Heavy Flamers
Inquisitorial Land Raider

Then:
At least 3 Inquisitors (a conclave), plus at least one Interrogator each
I want some acolytes for theme
A jokaero, because I think I can do a neato stand-in one, possibly maybe. Is a proxy-jokaero okay? As some kind of tech priest or something?

I haven't settled on anything else, but there's certainly room in the list. Any thoughts on what I should do? As with everyone, I am struggling a bit with Anti-Tank, and could try my Marauder Bomber or could not. I just wish there was a way to keep it in reserve.

Personally I'm looking at the AoS line to build a "Squat Mechanic" out of (or maybe even several) to stand in for my monkeys.

Conversions on my first squad are coming along, but I did run into a hiccup with what I had planned. I wanted to use the Vanguard arms with Guard legs and the GSC torso. Weeeeelll.... GSC torsos are too thin for those wide Cadian hips (there is a meme there, I'm almost certain of it) so I went with Skitarri legs which fit with some shaving on the front and back. BUUUUT the arms don't fit the wide upper torso so I'm now using the hot shot lasguns from the Scion box (after shaving the shoulder connection so the pads end up flush with the upper bodies). At least the Chaos Warrior helmets (minus horns) fit the GSC torso to give them a neat bucket helmet look.

I can already tell this is going to be an army of freaks (I recall there was a term for an army of basically all penitent nutters for the Ministorum, but I can't recall it because that was years ago, but yes, basically every unit is going to have some kind of weird theme going on like they were drawn from different places and brought together for the sake of killing heretics) and while some of it is just trying to make kits I already have work, it's kind of neat.

I'm thinking of trying to salvage the Vanguard rifles with Empire Greatsword torsos since they might be thin enough (and maybe wide enough for those Cadian legs, if not GSC cult legs it is).

Gladiator Crusaders are on hold while I await shields (need round shields from the Sigmarine kits, getting the ones with the kind of a sunburst pattern because sun rays should be eaiser to remove than some of the other symbols) and Wracks (for heads and vials) which have been out of stock for a while. I'm going to use some bits from Ad Mech as well, mixed with Grey Knight swords (because they have nice one handed swords with an =I= thing going on).

My Inquisitor is built as well, armed with the Death Watch Master's halbred and a cut down arc pistol (took off the top glowy box bit leaving the revolver bottom half) I'm looking at running him as counting as having a Force Halberd and a Combi-melta. It's not the most powerful build possible (I'm sure combi-plasma is better) but the pistol seems more like it'd fire something more akin to melta than plasma in my head, so that's what he's getting pending future option changes. He was kind of an interesting mix of parts by having the Watch Master's head and halberd (which was cut off of the watch master's hand and attached to a Arc Maul hand from the Skitarri box, with pinning), the arc pistol and upper body also being Skitarri (I replaced the Ad Mech symbol with a pressure gauge bit cut off of a Ruststalker backpack so he has a set of gauges in the middle of his chest now), his legs are GSC, as is the backpack he has (which is the GSC one with the antennae and speaker) and he has the Scion Servo Skull (the tail of which is wrapped around the back of the speaker to give it a solid attachment point). I put him on the staircase hero base to make him look a little more imposing (kind of important since he's got a kind of hunched old man look going on) plus it leaves me room to add the Grynix when my Yvrainne order comes in.

After looking at the Sisters of Silence again I'm not sure if I'm really going to use their heads to replace Yvrainne's. I'm still considering options but basically I'm looking at either Dark Eldar (because they have some nice options for choices with hair) or Sigmar Elves (mostly the Wood Elves whose new name I can never spell without looking up so I won't bother trying). Still working out how I'm going to deal with that triangle bit on the front of her torso. Thankfully most of the other stuff I can shave/sand off (I'm likely going to leave the pattern section alone, but I'm also thinking of filling it in with liquid green stuff, smoothing it out and then painting it a different color than the rest of the dress so it looks more like some kind of train).

So yeah....if I do a second army (like, say with Eisenhorn so I can run Ordo Xenos and his cool model) I'm definitely going with less conversions. For one this is a pricy way to build an army (even if I went with bits sites which have gotten stupid expensive and while it definitely gives a very unique feel to the army, it's not a method that's going to make it easy for people to get into this army for sure.

Dear GW: please give us some kind of alcolyte kit in the future!

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Dear GW: please give us some kind of alcolyte kit in the future!

They have! House Orlock, Esher, and Goliath.

We just need to wait for Arbites now.

Vortenger wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Dear GW: please give us some kind of alcolyte kit in the future!

They have! House Orlock, Esher, and Goliath.

We just need to wait for Arbites now.

While true, I've been finding it harder to convert models with rifles since GW wants to put both hands on the guns instead of just the pistol grip hand. It makes it harder to pair them with different torsos than the standard kit.

I'm trying to make it work anyways though.

Speaking of conversions for the Inquisition.......

I have always disliked Karamazov's model, but I have always liked him. In trying to build a fun list that had big models in it. The best way to fit into a 1500 point army where a Knight Gallant was just too expensive, I did this:

Sorry man, but it just looks like a Warmachine model.

lol.....that's because it is. :-)

The scaling with a lot of their models doesn't match and it's all I had to use.......I have seen some really cool stuff that is better scaled. I am playing with this because we play heavy on theme in our group.

:-)

That's the point though. More power to you if you like it, but it doesn't look at all like anything I would sub Karamazov for, nor something that even tries to attempt to match the faction's aesthetic. If you're going to insist on running that in a 40k game, why not just use it as a Knight?

I did. That's what I wrote above. It was too hard to fit 405 points in my lists.

Karamazov's model is so horrible that this one makes me smile. I like the fact that it is over the top. It fits his lore about Fear etc. I haven't even got half way nor painted it....you must really despise Warmachine.

I have no feelings toward it in either direction. I'm just saying that's not a good conversion for Karamazov.

I'm just gonna say that none of the above posts have anything to do with Inquisition Tactics.

I think there's a modelling forum or something, though.

Yeah, I kinda struggle to manifest ANY emotion about Warmachine whatsoever, and it looks like you just glued a couple 40k bits and a somewhat commissarish looking miniature on top of a vague Mechwarrior rip-off.

Sorry dude, I'm not feeling it either.

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
I'm just gonna say that none of the above posts have anything to do with Inquisition Tactics.

I think there's a modelling forum or something, though.

Sorry, my fault for starting this mess. I was just frustrated by how limited newer GW model designs have made conversions (without some SERIOUS work that is).

Moving on, I'm having trouble with Scion special weapon choices. I know plasma is the current hotness (no puns intended), but I keep feeling like GW is going to give it some kind of change to make it less of an automatic choice and thus make other options look better.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Moving on, I'm having trouble with Scion special weapon choices. I know plasma is the current hotness (no puns intended), but I keep feeling like GW is going to give it some kind of change to make it less of an automatic choice and thus make other options look better.

Barring some meta-destroying thing were they make grenade launchers (which marines don't get), flamers (which would basically require a total rewrite), or meltaguns (which need a massive point drop) actually ever worth taking, I don't see this being a thing unless they just double the points on plasma or something to make it that bad by comparison.

The current second-best for Scions is probably the volley gun. It has good range and the S4 is useful without being game-breaking, and on Scions heavy isn't that much of a showstopper in 8th.

GW: the volley gun is how you make a reasonable and well balanced weapon. Do more of that.

Plus the volley gun is a pretty straightforward green stuff conversion to supplement what's in the box. Easier to go big on those than some of the more iconic special weapons.

This might be a little offtopic, but I'm thinking I might finally be ready to try to tackle a Land Raider Prometheus conversion. Anyone have any thoughts on the easiest way to do the heavy bolters?

Looking at one I see:
- Land Raider Crusader sponson
- Razorback gun shroud
- 2 sets of Razorback heavy bolters cut up

That's the fastest/easiest but it's a little expensive and it doesn't include the sensor array and doodads on the actual hull. Anyone think of a cheaper way to do it?