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I really like the "Disembark after moving" strategem idea. it seems very orky to me and would give us some uniqueness back being the only army that can do that. even if it is a strategem, and it wouldnt be OP
cuz you cna only do it once a turn and maby twice in a game. And it would go a long way to making people happy about taking transports again. and possibly Meganobs!

Locking someone in combat seems awsome, would it effect flyers? or maby downgrade flyers to act like regular troops after running, ie. cannot shoot after retreating. i would prefer completely stuck in.

I think a stratagem for our jets would be cool too, "Bring on the Dakka!" 1cp: You may have a dakka jet/Burnabomba/Blitza bomba or wazbomb shoot its weapons twice this turn in addition to ignoring negative modifiers to hit rolls.

Im wondering if there is a charge distance modifier in the pipes for us, our ere' we go only gets us so far after we jump, it would be nice to have a strategem to make our charges a little more reliable so that our strategy doesnt rely so much on chance, I mean bloodletters get 3d6 charge why cant we? or maby 2d6+2. Its always risky Da Jumping because if it fails, you gotta squad outta position not doing much that just gets mulched like "zeitgeist from the new deadpool movie" on the next turn.

And i really wanna start playing my Meganobs, changing tranports might make me happy to play em again but i think they need a little love, you guys got any ideas on how to make a strategem directed at mega nobs and then how it would come into use for us strategically?

Well, trying to not overpower it too much, maybe something that allows us to forgo shooting and move during the shooting phase?

Shrapnelbait wrote:
In the game I had last night I ran into that super Eldar sniper. It was disgusting. 48" range, enough AP to give no save, 3damage plus a mortal wound, Character so can't be targeted, an -2 to hit and +2 save in cover even if you can target him. Thanks to the grot oiler, my big mek survived 2 rounds, Called the game before the Warboss got targeted.

Fast moving units is the only way I can think of to get him, Other than using one wierd boy to deepstrike another weird boy to smite him. Deffcoptas might have a use here. Thoughts?

Don't take a lot of characters. Just tide him with 200 boys and let him snipe a random ork each turn.

Also...wait for the codex.

So, while Gretchen don't have Mob Rule themselves, they still count as Ork for other Proper mobs correct? Seems like yet another reason to keep 30 Gretchen on the board.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
So, while Gretchen don't have Mob Rule themselves, they still count as Ork for other Proper mobs correct? Seems like yet another reason to keep 30 Gretchen on the board.

I think their only use in that regard is boosting a weirdboy. Not a bad use, though.

Ignore him. 2 turns is really all you need for a kff mek.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
So, while Gretchen don't have Mob Rule themselves, they still count as Ork for other Proper mobs correct? Seems like yet another reason to keep 30 Gretchen on the board.

For what purposes? They count for weirdboy +1. But in case you were planning to use for LD they don't help units with mob rule as it specifically requires unit with mob rule to work.

Not that I need more reasons to field gretchins. They are bloody great.

I thought Mob Rule allowed you to take LD of the number of Orkz, or a neighboring unit of Orkz. Friendly Ork models. Gretchen have the Orkz keyword. Their 31 model count could be used by a Mob rule ork mob. I don't see anything thing that specified you can only use Mob rule on another Mob rule unit. If I put a unit of 30 Gretchen behind a unit of Ork Boyz, that mob can use Mob Rule and take LD 30 from the friendly unit of Orkz 6 inches behind them.

I could be wrong though, I don't have my Index to double check and Google searches are coming up blurry.

EDIT: found it. So Gretchen have a Ork keyword, but aren't considered Bold word Un-capitalized Ork units? Dang. Would it need to be friendly <ORK> unit to be allowed the way I perceive?

More EDIT :

But this seems wrong Oo because there is no unit called Orks. So which is it.

From the big FAQ:

ERRATA
Page 10 – Mob Rule
Change the rule to read:
‘When using the Leadership characteristic of this unit,
you can use either its own Leadership characteristic,
or you can choose for the characteristic to be equal to
either the number of models in the unit, or the number
of models in another friendly unit within 6" that has
this ability.’

And there we go. Thanks. Phew. I was worried I missed something from the index.... Didn't think to check FAQ.

Completely off topic but I love that our tactics thread is significantly larger than any other armies, but we havnt even gotten out codex yet.

I know some have started a new thread once they got their codex so that skews it a bit, but I think some of the bigger armies like IG and chaos are still from their index days.


idk I thought it was interesting and im bored waiting for rumors :(

Anyone else getting pretty tired of all the Knight gak on the facebook community page? We've had only Knight news for what, a month now? Two?

I'm getting sick of it, GW need to pull their fingers out and start releasing some Ork news.

There are a lot of stratagems that I would like to see, but as much as that I'd like to see more special rules right on our units data sheets. Orks are supposed to be the most flavorful faction*, and I don't think there should be a single vanilla unit in the army. A lot of the units that do have one special rule should have two or three.
*Of course I am biased.

I was mostly patient up until the Harlequins and IK codexes. The Custodes release did annoy me a bit. Now it's starting to get pretty trying. Like I have some AoS armies and one of them (Nighthaunt) is getting a big release, so normally I'd be super excited, but my impatience for orks is making me not really enjoy the new Sigmar stuff very much (first world problems).

I don't usually like news dribbled out over a long period of time, but just a little info on what's coming and a rough timeframe would be much appreciated.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Anyone else getting pretty tired of all the Knight gak on the facebook community page? We've had only Knight news for what, a month now? Two?

I'm getting sick of it, GW need to pull their fingers out and start releasing some Ork news.

Yes, very much so

I think they might be in a weird place where they both don't want to distract from AoS 2, so they're not announcing anything major, but they also don't want to totally ignore 40k so they're putting out little things that are boring for us that are still waiting.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Anyone else getting pretty tired of all the Knight gak on the facebook community page? We've had only Knight news for what, a month now? Two?

I'm getting sick of it, GW need to pull their fingers out and start releasing some Ork news.

Well seeing as Chaos got renegade knights and AdMech got their Secutarii "by popular demand", we oughta be able to get looted knights and vehicle rules if we make enough noise.
Might have datasheets ready by the time the codex goes live, cause we can be dang sure they aren't gonna be in there.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
I think they might be in a weird place where they both don't want to distract from AoS 2, so they're not announcing anything major, but they also don't want to totally ignore 40k so they're putting out little things that are boring for us that are still waiting.

Thats my thought too. If on 7/1 we dont have a full preview and rumors flowing im going to riot! jkjk I have a sinking feeling im hyping myself up for disappointment because SW will come first or something.

My FLGS closed in June, and a new one is opening up mid July. Was hoping to take claim to the new shop with a huge Ork army, but I may have to switch gears.

Im gonna flip a table if Space Wolves come out first

The wolves will likely come first, but i imagine we will be hot on their heels, i had heard rumor some months back in thsi thread that it might be a wolves and orks boxset release, potentially revealing new models for both armies. I love fighting spacewolves so i am happy if thats the reality.

I'm curious fellas I've been hearing alot of speculation that things without new models or current box kits (Buggies, Deff Koptas ect.) will probably be left out of the Codex and left as an index only entry, think that'll be the case?

 gmaleron wrote:
I'm curious fellas I've been hearing alot of speculation that things without new models or current box kits (Buggies, Deff Koptas ect.) will probably be left out of the Codex and left as an index only entry, think that'll be the case?

Nah, buggies got a point reduction in one of the FAQs if I remember. Can't see GW doing that if they are going to ditch them. I know people are dying for new buggies, so maybe there will be a new model. Other than Stormboyz, coptas are the only thing we have that flies without being a jet. It would be pretty lame if they got axed.

Buggies have long been rumored as coming however I suspect traks, skorchas, and buggies arenhavibg a drastic overhaul and won’t be exactly as they were.
Deffkoptas still have a kit that’s sold.

All rumors report to drastic changes in the codex however even if staples such as doc on bike or mek on bike are gone the index still allows thier use this edition.

You mean the old crappy metal one? They dont sell Black Reach anymore I thought

 Billagio wrote:

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
I think they might be in a weird place where they both don't want to distract from AoS 2, so they're not announcing anything major, but they also don't want to totally ignore 40k so they're putting out little things that are boring for us that are still waiting.

Thats my thought too. If on 7/1 we dont have a full preview and rumors flowing im going to riot! jkjk I have a sinking feeling im hyping myself up for disappointment because SW will come first or something.

If Space Wolves come first that might mean it's more likely that we get some new models.

I'd actually like an Orks vs Ork GSC box more than an Orks vs Space Wolves box. I doubt that will happen though.

The NOVA tournament is in late August/early September, I wonder if we'll have to wait until then to hear anything? I don't know if there are any big events before that. They've got lots of other things that are supposed to be coming (Kill Team/Rogue Trader, Adeptus Titanicus, Nighthaunt battletome) so I think that makes predicting timeframes a little difficult.

I'm down for most anything, but I must admit the closer we get without any news the more paranoid I get they're going to do something really stupid like redo the whole line as the "Krork" which are gigantic Orks that stand upright, speak properly and are very neat and organized because some people want orks to be more "serious."

 gmaleron wrote:
You mean the old crappy metal one? They dont sell Black Reach anymore I thought

technically you can actually buy the Black Reach deffkoptas new, just not from GW stores, and only a single model as part of a larger set...GW partnered with Revell to release these "Build+Paint" kits...there's also one for the old gorkamorka trukk, and the old-style ork warbike too...

gungo wrote:
Buggies have long been rumored as coming however I suspect traks, skorchas, and buggies arenhavibg a drastic overhaul and won’t be exactly as they were.
Deffkoptas still have a kit that’s sold.

All rumors report to drastic changes in the codex however even if staples such as doc on bike or mek on bike are gone the index still allows thier use this edition.

I fully expect the indices to stop seeing use once Sisters have gotten their codex. Either because tournaments will start dropping them and people will follow suit, or because the index stuff simply doesn't get point/rule adjustments anymore and thus will be too bad to be field in matched play.

Therefore anything lost to the codex might eventually be lost for good to people playing matched play.

Disclaimer: This is just my opinion, GW did not hint in any way that they will stop supporting index choices.

I wont be able to stand looking at the news and rumors and being flooded with Space Marines with the words "Wolf, Ice, Storm, Rune etc" plastered over them every time I hope for Ork rumors

 Billagio wrote:
I wont be able to stand looking at the news and rumors and being flooded with Space Marines with the words "Wolf, Ice, Storm, Rune etc" plastered over them every time I hope for Ork rumors

Don't forget "murder-."

 JimOnMars wrote:

 Billagio wrote:
I wont be able to stand looking at the news and rumors and being flooded with Space Marines with the words "Wolf, Ice, Storm, Rune etc" plastered over them every time I hope for Ork rumors

Don't forget "murder-."

and "fang", and "claw"

Ork boyz vs Ice murder rune wolves