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Inquisitors don't really seem to do much for Marines, unfortunately.

 Gamgee wrote:
The bikes are permanently discontinued?

Bikes are still availabe in Australia - wonder why you guys are out?

I had a feeling they didn't, but I do like the extra denial of Greyfax

I think they are going to slowly get sold out or something? Maybe something at the factory happened to cause it to get discontinued? All I know is it's slowly spreading as more and more DW stuff goes away.

Sorry for the question, but in dont get the gear-options for the Veterans...

can i take a chainsword + boltgun
or at least Melter+Kombimelter?

Maybe some one can explain it to me

You can take two items, but only one can come from the lower list. So Boltgun and Chainsword is fine, but a Combi and a Special Weapon both come from the bottom list, so you can't have both of them.

Okay got it, ty

Another question: can i use the Special ammo, when i fire the boltgun from a combi-melta (for example)?

Yep!

I see in the latest Forgeworld FAQ that Deathwatch got access to a lot more.

I also read that Deathwatch has access to Primaris models, but does it mean all or just some Primaris units etc?

 Da-Rock wrote:
I see in the latest Forgeworld FAQ that Deathwatch got access to a lot more.

I also read that Deathwatch has access to Primaris models, but does it mean all or just some Primaris units etc?

Link FW FAQ where it shows that?

the only primaris that deathwatch can currently take are captain, librarian and reiver.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Downloads/K3ns3JDOGE2asjf/Primaris-week-2/UH29gsmfkrrtp_Primaris_Marines_Release_02_July_8th.pdf

Unless there have been releases I have missed...

stewe128 wrote:

 Da-Rock wrote:
I see in the latest Forgeworld FAQ that Deathwatch got access to a lot more.

I also read that Deathwatch has access to Primaris models, but does it mean all or just some Primaris units etc?

Link FW FAQ where it shows that?

FAQs
Q: Are there any restrictions on which Chapter I can choose
when replacing the <Chapter> Faction keyword on datasheets
within this book?
A: Yes. You cannot choose for any of these units to be
from the Legion of the Damned or Grey Knights
Chapters. They can be from any other Chapter though,
including Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves
and Deathwatch.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-JP/Downloads#warhammer40k

Do we (Desthwatch) get new rules with the SM-Release?

Bluthusten wrote:
Do we (Desthwatch) get new rules with the SM-Release?

I don't believe so.

Bluthusten wrote:
Do we (Desthwatch) get new rules with the SM-Release?

I am pretty sure DeathWatch will have it's own Codex and that it may or may not come before December. (I would guess it won't, but you never know).

I think we are pretty good with what we have as GW can just FAQ in access to new gear and units if they want.

Does anyone think they will make any drastic changes to DeathWatch when the codex comes? (I am currently building and painting mine to be used as both a standard chapter and Deathwatch. Only my two Blackstars will be hard to Proxy).

I am hoping something similar to the tactical choices we could make in 7th would be a part of the deathwatch ruleset. It doesnt have to be specific rerolls vs troop / elite etc, but I did like the ability to focus on a particular strategy within a battle.

Oh.. and I want a bonus when I kill Xenos... either defensive or offensive.. not bothered.

Ahhh yisss.....finally I can use those sweet forgeworld models.

So...what sweet relic unit should I use?

The leviathan dread with duo-storm cannon array, or perhaps duo grav bombard for popping vehicles and blobs insanely fast?

Or the deredeo dread for extra firepower?

Or some other foregeworld goodness?

Please let Forgeworld grant us something loaded down with bolters...

Why cant Deathwatch dreads have hurricane bolters each firing SIA... thats fun and balanced, right?

I just kit bashed a DW dread, and I wanted to ask y'all something. I loaded up his melee arm with vehicle sized chapter badges from many chapters. Would a DW venerable dread thats served so long his original chapter is kept to himself, instead bearing the markings of the chapters hes campaigned with (each is obviously like a big campaign badge) be fluffy, or do you think that's kinda far fetched?

 Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
Why cant Deathwatch dreads have hurricane bolters each firing SIA... thats fun and balanced, right?

We pay extra for our Vets to have SIA, why wouldn't we cough up a bit extra for our Hurricane Bolters the way TWC cough up character tax for Storm Shields?

I just kit bashed a DW dread, and I wanted to ask y'all something. I loaded up his melee arm with vehicle sized chapter badges from many chapters. Would a DW venerable dread thats served so long his original chapter is kept to himself, instead bearing the markings of the chapters hes campaigned with (each is obviously like a big campaign badge) be fluffy, or do you think that's kinda far fetched?

Depends on the chapter he was originally from, some chapters are egotistical trophy hunters - some aren't.

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

 Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
Why cant Deathwatch dreads have hurricane bolters each firing SIA... thats fun and balanced, right?

We pay extra for our Vets to have SIA, why wouldn't we cough up a bit extra for our Hurricane Bolters the way TWC cough up character tax for Storm Shields?

I just kit bashed a DW dread, and I wanted to ask y'all something. I loaded up his melee arm with vehicle sized chapter badges from many chapters. Would a DW venerable dread thats served so long his original chapter is kept to himself, instead bearing the markings of the chapters hes campaigned with (each is obviously like a big campaign badge) be fluffy, or do you think that's kinda far fetched?

Depends on the chapter he was originally from, some chapters are egotistical trophy hunters - some aren't.

I was thinking less trophy hunted, but marks of service. Maybe he was a templar or howling griffon or someone obsessed with duty. Im basically picturing an ancient dread being "pestered" by the newest members of the Deathwatch, and hed just be like, "What I came from matters not, my brother, for only what the Deathwatch has made me survives" or something. IE a veteran whos learned so much fighting alongside so many chapters that it doesnt matter to him anymore, hes just Deathwatch

i'm currently playing the following list of 1250 points:

Watchmaster

Killteam 1:
5 Veterans, 2 FragCanons, 3 Boltguns+Chainsword

Killteam 2:
5 Veterans, 5 Combi-Melta+ Chainsword

Killteam 3:
5 Veterans, 2, MissileLaumcher, 3 Boltgun+chainsword

Killteam 4:
Sergeant with E-sword, Blackshield with E-Sword, 1 Biker, 1 Vanguard with Claws and 3 Veterans (2 FragCanons, 1 Boltgun/Chainsword)

1 Corvus Blackstar

1 Rhino

1 Razorback with laser.


First: what do you think about the List?

And which FW-Unit will fit the most?

Ty guys

 Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

 Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
Why cant Deathwatch dreads have hurricane bolters each firing SIA... thats fun and balanced, right?

We pay extra for our Vets to have SIA, why wouldn't we cough up a bit extra for our Hurricane Bolters the way TWC cough up character tax for Storm Shields?

I just kit bashed a DW dread, and I wanted to ask y'all something. I loaded up his melee arm with vehicle sized chapter badges from many chapters. Would a DW venerable dread thats served so long his original chapter is kept to himself, instead bearing the markings of the chapters hes campaigned with (each is obviously like a big campaign badge) be fluffy, or do you think that's kinda far fetched?

Depends on the chapter he was originally from, some chapters are egotistical trophy hunters - some aren't.

I was thinking less trophy hunted, but marks of service. Maybe he was a templar or howling griffon or someone obsessed with duty. Im basically picturing an ancient dread being "pestered" by the newest members of the Deathwatch, and hed just be like, "What I came from matters not, my brother, for only what the Deathwatch has made me survives" or something. IE a veteran whos learned so much fighting alongside so many chapters that it doesnt matter to him anymore, hes just Deathwatch

I don't know if Dreads actually have a machine spirit to offend by not having a Chapter acknowledgement or acknowledging multiple chapters, I asked the question a while back of Space Marines becoming Dreads in the Watch being obliged to stay with the Deathwatch when their service time is finished or getting the choice to go back to their chapter - there was no hard answer so as far as I'm concerned if you can make a good enough story to back it, it works fine.

@bluthusten what formation are you using? You have 1 too many troop choices for a patrol?

Whoever was asking about swapping out their Boltgun a Boltgun and CCW, then switching out the new Boltgun for a Frag Cannon got their question nullified by the new FAQ, now you exchange all your weapons for the Frag Cannon.

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
Whoever was asking about swapping out their Boltgun a Boltgun and CCW, then switching out the new Boltgun for a Frag Cannon got their question nullified by the new FAQ, now you exchange all your weapons for the Frag Cannon.

Twas me, thank you for posting. I took your original advice and didn't give my other frag cannon a pistol, the one I was asking about had a pistol already modeled on.

Now the real question: pry it off, or explain to opponents they don't have pistols in game, only as an accessory so their belt isnt empty

Also new in the FAQ is the Blackstar Halo Launcher, changed so that instead of giving flyers targeting it -1 to hit it now lets you re-roll save rolls of 1. Better generally, worse situationally. What do people think?

Do you guys like Bolter or CCW Reivers better? I initially thought CCW but bolter is warming up to me.

With DW not being able to have Razorbacks with Twin Heavy Flamers, I've been looking at using Crusader Squads (Ministorum) and picking up Immolators. Well, one, anyway. 3x Crusaders, 2x Acolytes with Flamers and a Xenos Inquisitor for the fluff. Crusaders are Zealots and get to re-roll hits plus they get Acts of Faith for either extra move or an extra fight phase. Immolators are Ministorum Infantry transports, so Crusaders are in plus the Authority of the Inquisiton for the others to join the fun. Immolators also have a 12" range rather then 8" for the Space marine Razorback version with the same 2D6 auto hits etc. The acolytes get to re-roll 1's to wound with their auto hits as long as its not Chaos or Imperium. So some usefulness.

So all in all, for a fun fluff choice, I don't feel like its totally non competitive either.

Thought about tossing in a Priest for more attacks on the Crusaders, but I like the extra auto hits from the Acolytes burning things up.

Buying some DW bikes to ally into my Guard army turned into buying about 1500+ points of Deathwatch. So I guess I have a DW army now.

Do you think DW will get any of the points cost reductions that the Codex SM just got for bikes/jump packs/etc as a FAQ item?

Also, did the DW last edition need the SM codex or was it self contained?