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Very nice.

Thats what i was going to do, thanks for the pictures too.

I prefer to use the Canoness Inf pistol, but same cut. The MG barrels look huge on a pistol, anyone know how a sternguard combi melta would fit?

Isn't it a little sad that we have to go to such lengths to get these special weapons in our army that we have options for, but can't buy outright?

Been playing Sisters since 97, its the price we pay for playing such a great army.

For inferno pistols I've used these

Hands are a bit big though so I cut them off and kept the sisters hands.
http://anvilindustry.co.uk/The-Armoury/Rifles-Shotguns-Pistols/fusion-pistols

Blood Angel inferno pistols work fine as well.

I picked up 5 Blood Angels inferno pistols off eBay and cut the hand flamers off two Seraphim. It was an easy conversion, but they are a tiny bit too large for "realism". For regular melta sisters I took the bolter girl holding the grenade and switched her gun out (very easy, sometimes leaves a spot on her cloak that needs touching up) and the girl who has her rifle shouldered. (Slightly tougher, requires a bit more care.) All you really need is a good set of clippers and some files.

 pretre wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
$1 seems infinitely reasonable to me.

Not when you have 50+ bits that can be used for the same purpose....... and not when i want to covert many of them, why spend 20+ dollars when i have the bits?

Well, if you have the bits, why would you even be looking?

It's a reasonable price for someone who needs them.

Precisely. As a price goes, $1 is very fair.

 Jancoran wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
$1 seems infinitely reasonable to me.

Not when you have 50+ bits that can be used for the same purpose....... and not when i want to covert many of them, why spend 20+ dollars when i have the bits?

Well, if you have the bits, why would you even be looking?

It's a reasonable price for someone who needs them.

Precisely. As a price goes, $1 is very fair.

Didnt say it was a bad price, i only said something b.c someone suggested it to me and i was just showing idont need them lol.

Played in a local tourney this past weekend with a new list I'd been tinkering with. Went 3 wins in 3 games. It was not a very competitive setting but think this list could do well for a larger tournament. See what you think. 1999 pts

Outrider Detachment

Celestine with one Geminae
5 Dominions, 2 meltaguns, 3 Storm bolters
5 Dominions, 2 meltaguns, 3 Storm bolters
5 Dominions, 2 meltaguns, 3 Storm bolters
5 Dominions, 2 meltaguns, 3 Storm bolters
5 Dominions, 2 meltaguns, 3 Storm bolters
5 Dominions, 2 meltaguns, 3 Storm bolters
Repressor, HF, 2 Stormbolters
Repressor, HF, 2 Stormbolters
Repressor, HF, 2 Stormbolters
Repressor, HF, 2 Stormbolters
Repressor, HF, 2 Stormbolters

Battalion Detachment

Canoness, combiplasma, power maul (Warlord, +1A)
Canoness, combiplasma, power maul
8 Seraphim, power sword, 2x dual Inferno Pistols
5 BSS, 3 Stormbolters
5 BSS, 3 Stormbolters
5 BSS, 3 Stormbolters
5 BSS, 3 Stormbolters
5 BSS, 3 Stormbolters
Repressor, HF, 2 Stormbolters
Repressor, HF, 2 Stormbolters
Repressor, HF, 2 Stormbolters

Thats 7 CPs, 10 drops, 5 ObSecs, 8 Repressors, 30 Dominions (12 meltas and 18 stormbolters),
25 BSS (15 stormbolters).

I wanted a fast moving force with as few drops as possible, that could put out a ton of relatively close-range firepower.

Competitive or Repetitive?

How did the 2 meltas/3SB in your doms do? Did you like them like that?

Why didnt you just do 3 units of Meltas and 3 units of SB's?

 Amishprn86 wrote:
How did the 2 meltas/3SB in your doms do? Did you like them like that?

Why didnt you just do 3 units of Meltas and 3 units of SB's?

They did very good for me, the trick is you can split fire now, so if I needed to shoot at a high-T unit I could do that with my meltas while shooting the stormbolters at regular troops. This list has to get close to your opponent but the Repressors protection make it a lot more doable than foot slogging.
The reason I don't split units into all-meltas and all-SBs is target priority. Any opponent with lots of tough models will target the meltas and wipe them out first. With 12 meltas in 6 units it's a lot harder to wipe them out. I don't use AoFs on my small squads typically so that is not part of my list building strategy.

Yeah i know about split fire and i understand target saturation.

I can see where you are coming from, just not my style.

 davidgr33n wrote:
Competitive or Repetitive?

Looks fairly competitive and better for hordes than tanks. Repressor Sisters are pretty competitive in what is rapidly becoming our one good build. What kind of opposition did you see?

For those of you who were (like me) waiting impatiently for it, the storm bolter sister is back in stock.

 Captain Joystick wrote:
For those of you who were (like me) waiting impatiently for it, the storm bolter sister is back in stock.

Thanks for the heads up! $60 later I'm on my way towards completed second units of HB Rets and SB Doms to supplement the excellent output of the ones I've already got .

 dracpanzer wrote:

 davidgr33n wrote:
Competitive or Repetitive?

Looks fairly competitive and better for hordes than tanks. Repressor Sisters are pretty competitive in what is rapidly becoming our one good build. What kind of opposition did you see?

Correct- it was easier playing against massed infantry than against the more elite armored armies. I had a Guard opponent with two Conscript blobs which stuck around because of the Comissar, but disintegrated to massed fire and flaming. That force had a Shadowsword that was wreaking havoc on my Repressors but it could only take out one at a time. I left it alone as I had no desire to get my Seraphim close to it and it was screened heavily so couldn't get my meltas there.

My second opponent was a Guilliman gun line. I struck first and was able to get into his lines for massed fire effect. Guilliman wrecked me hard but I played to the mission and won handily.

Third opponent was Grey Knights smite spam light. Again played to the mission and won.

Two take aways----
Celestine has great defense with her Geminae and the 2+ save, but it does nothing to stop Smite from killing her rather handily.

Without the Exorcist there is no long range anti-tank in a pure Sisters force (except flying melta Seraphim). Heavy screens will protect vulnerable armor and there is little that can be done. Playing to the mission and pulverizing everything else was my MO.

Some great insights. Of course, with the Exorcist as unreliable as it is, I see focusing on the mission being the better thing to do. With Acts of Faith and a lot of vehicles, you can get to the objectives before your opponent, and if they want to put their vehicles in a better firing position, that generally means sacrificing some of their screen.

Well done!

How are you guys running Seraphim squads? I have seen more than a couple lists that show them running 8-sister squads, which seemed like an odd number to choose vs the standard 5 or 10.

4x Inferno pistols also seemed to be the often-chosen upgrade, but does that mean people usually start them on the table instead of deepstriking them? As the inferno's are useless on a deepstrike turn

Start on the table with 7-10 Seraphim and Inferno Pistols.

 pretre wrote:
Start on the table with 7-10 Seraphim and Inferno Pistols.

Do you not give the Superior a plasma pistol + power sword? Or at least just the plasma+bolt pistol

Niiru wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Start on the table with 7-10 Seraphim and Inferno Pistols.

Do you not give the Superior a plasma pistol + power sword? Or at least just the plasma+bolt pistol

BP/Chainsword. PP if I have points.

Niiru wrote:
How are you guys running Seraphim squads? I have seen more than a couple lists that show them running 8-sister squads, which seemed like an odd number to choose vs the standard 5 or 10.

4x Inferno pistols also seemed to be the often-chosen upgrade, but does that mean people usually start them on the table instead of deepstriking them? As the inferno's are useless on a deepstrike turn

My current list is 5x 2 BP, 2x 2 IP, 1x PP/BP Superior. If there isn't a viable target within 30", I'll deepstrike them. But then only if I know they'll be completely out of site for targeting for a turn. They are usually my last unit to deploy.

 deviantduck wrote:

Niiru wrote:
How are you guys running Seraphim squads? I have seen more than a couple lists that show them running 8-sister squads, which seemed like an odd number to choose vs the standard 5 or 10.

4x Inferno pistols also seemed to be the often-chosen upgrade, but does that mean people usually start them on the table instead of deepstriking them? As the inferno's are useless on a deepstrike turn

My current list is 5x 2 BP, 2x 2 IP, 1x PP/BP Superior. If there isn't a viable target within 30", I'll deepstrike them. But then only if I know they'll be completely out of site for targeting for a turn. They are usually my last unit to deploy.

How are Seraphim used? I assume you try and get them into combat against specific targets?

I'm still new to the 8th rules, but isn't 30" a bit optimistic? 12" + (average rolls of) 3" + 6" so 21" seems more realistic, unless you plan to use an act of faith on them for a double move (which personally I would be, but I didn't know what others do with their acts of faith).

Seraphim really just hide in combat. Inferno Pistol Seras are meant to move forward and double or single tap into nasty units. Then assault to hide in hand to hand until next turn.

What do you make of Crusaders? I'm planning on running a squad of ten in a rhino to jam straight down the throat of the enemy and tie up something important - with a 3++ they're going to ignore about two-thirds of all the wounds they recieve, and since they get Acts of Faith, if the combat lasts for a whole battleround and comes back to me, they can use The Passion to squish the enemy and get ready to hit someone else. For the price they seem excellent as an additional choppy option.

jbeil wrote:
What do you make of Crusaders? I'm planning on running a squad of ten in a rhino to jam straight down the throat of the enemy and tie up something important - with a 3++ they're going to ignore about two-thirds of all the wounds they recieve, and since they get Acts of Faith, if the combat lasts for a whole battleround and comes back to me, they can use The Passion to squish the enemy and get ready to hit someone else. For the price they seem excellent as an additional choppy option.

And they now seem to get access to Imperial Guard things, as they are apparently gaining the Astra Militarium keyword.

I have been toying with putting a squad of 10 into a valkyrie, with a priest and a primaris psyker.

They can also seem to use the stratagem which gives them +1 to the saving throws. So 2+ invulnerable saves and 3 power sword attacks each.

Actually with the psyker, they would have 1+ invulnerable saves, but I believe 1's always fail even with modifiers? Still means if the opponent attacks with any AP-1 weapons you can just ignore them.

@niiru
The reason most people take fewer than 10 Seraphim, and as you mentioned it's typically 8, is twofold: 1. points, since 8 will do what 10 can do and provide enough ablative wounds for the heavy pistols to do their work, and 2. If they lose enough models and fail a morale test you will lose extra models regardless, so it's better to keep the squad smaller as far as morale tests go.
Inferno pistols are the go- to weapon for Seraphim due to the need for more melta. Seraphim usually accompany Celestine and use an AoF for rapid movement to get into melta range.

@jbeil
Crusaders are not the most competitive unit but if you need an assault force they are not a bad option.

Did everyone notice in the new FAQ the Knights' Thermal Cannons got a nice bump from Heavy D3 to Heavy D6, I just hate they don't take the initiative to do the same for our poor Exorcist missile launcher!! I want to love the Exorcist and they beg me to bring them off the shelf and include them in my games, I just can't see myself bringing 160 points of fail in my list for one of them. I have a feeling once we get our Codex they'll bring the gun in line with reality.

 davidgr33n wrote:
@niiru
The reason most people take fewer than 10 Seraphim, and as you mentioned it's typically 8, is twofold: 1. points, since 8 will do what 10 can do and provide enough ablative wounds for the heavy pistols to do their work, and 2. If they lose enough models and fail a morale test you will lose extra models regardless, so it's better to keep the squad smaller as far as morale tests go.
Inferno pistols are the go- to weapon for Seraphim due to the need for more melta. Seraphim usually accompany Celestine and use an AoF for rapid movement to get into melta range.

@jbeil
Crusaders are not the most competitive unit but if you need an assault force they are not a bad option.

Did everyone notice in the new FAQ the Knights' Thermal Cannons got a nice bump from Heavy D3 to Heavy D6, I just hate they don't take the initiative to do the same for our poor Exorcist missile launcher!! I want to love the Exorcist and they beg me to bring them off the shelf and include them in my games, I just can't see myself bringing 160 points of fail in my list for one of them. I have a feeling once we get our Codex they'll bring the gun in line with reality.

The Leman Russ is being reduced in cost by 10 points and getting 2d6 shots, so I'd expect at lest some change to the Exorcist.

The fact that the Leman Russ will still probably be bad notwithstanding, it would at least be an attempt.