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 welshhoppo wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
Rowing man is back!

And he grew alot doing it.
Plus a rather effective hammer.

So Jorah, the Explorer. John snow.
Who will win the Queens heart!

House Gendry, Rowing Strong.

Ser Gendy, "hammer time" .
All that rowing paid off.

And john snows band akin to the dirty dozen.
3 Season one veterans. You know stuff got serious.

Good episode.
Things are picking up. Fast.

And please for the love of dragons have deneris decide on someone. They hinting to hell she was looking at someone at the end.

 d-usa wrote:

 nels1031 wrote:

 sebster wrote:

Part of me hopes that Sam missing the key plot point and heading off is never addressed again. Jon's lineage is lost to the ages, and that whole plot is just left dangling amidst the white walker carnage. That'd probably be a bit too whacky though

Unless the kid brings it with him and someone stumbles upon it, like Davos did when the call went out for reinforcements needed at the wall.

Sister might have also written a letter to brother about getting married and being pregnant, a letter that may be in Winterfell, with only one copy existing.

No, that letter was the letter Cersei made Sansa write to Robb when Ned was arrested for treason, telling Robb to come and bend the knee to King Joffrey.

 jhe90 wrote:
And john snows band akin to the dirty dozen.
3 Season one veterans. You know stuff got serious.

I think you mean Seven Samurai since there were, you know, seven of them.

 pretre wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
And john snows band akin to the dirty dozen.
3 Season one veterans. You know stuff got serious.

I think you mean Seven Samurai since there were, you know, seven of them.

True, but given this is Got will 7 return.

 jhe90 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
And john snows band akin to the dirty dozen.
3 Season one veterans. You know stuff got serious.

I think you mean Seven Samurai since there were, you know, seven of them.

True, but given this is Got will 7 return.

I'm guessing you're not familiar with the Seven Samurai...

 LunarSol wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Bronn only had to swim down how many feet, stop jaime's descent and then swim however far to shore, with both of them in battle armor. That's a layup for Bronn the almighty.

Edit: I'm surprised he didn't do it while singing. Underwater.

You gotta think it's going to be an awkward conversation when Jon introduces Sam to his new girlfriend, who roasted his family alive. Sam was estranged from his dad, but still...

There's estranged and then there's "I gave you the option to go die in the snow or I'd shoot you myself and you failed to do either". I think Sam can let it go.

He and his brother didn't seem to be on bad terms, IIRC. I don't think Sam would just shrug it off. But then it's also GoT post-Martin, where stuff just happens at breakneck speed and never mind the details.

 pretre wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
And john snows band akin to the dirty dozen.
3 Season one veterans. You know stuff got serious.

I think you mean Seven Samurai since there were, you know, seven of them.

True, but given this is Got will 7 return.

I'm guessing you're not familiar with the Seven Samurai...

No.. Kinda not.

The 47 Ronin. But that did not end well for everyone.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So...would a hammer work against the undead? If this were DnD then I would say yes, but I don't know how GoT rules work.

I think Shaun of the Dead rules cover it "Remove the head, or destroy the brain", whilst decapitating with a hammer is a tad unlikely the second half seems doable, also hard to shamble with no kneecaps...

I could have sworn one of them was still active even when headless though. Might work against the more skeletal ones though, because they'd get broken into tiny little bits.

 jhe90 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
And john snows band akin to the dirty dozen.
3 Season one veterans. You know stuff got serious.

I think you mean Seven Samurai since there were, you know, seven of them.

True, but given this is Got will 7 return.

I'm guessing you're not familiar with the Seven Samurai...

No.. Kinda not.

The 47 Ronin. But that did not end well for everyone.

Let's just say living through the entire adventure is not a prerequisite for inclusion.

 Turnip Jedi wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So...would a hammer work against the undead? If this were DnD then I would say yes, but I don't know how GoT rules work.

I think Shaun of the Dead rules cover it "Remove the head, or destroy the brain", whilst decapitating with a hammer is a tad unlikely the second half seems doable, also hard to shamble with no kneecaps...

Yeah. Somehow giant hammer and years of rowing and blacksmithing give you a strong hammer arm should be effective VS the undead.

If arrows etc work, a giant ass hammer will.

But if you have Walking Dead rules where most skills are made of jelly, his hammer should have no problem smushing the deadites. Or maybe it's Plot Armor that turns skulls to jelly, but they're hard for everyone else?

 jhe90 wrote:

 Turnip Jedi wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So...would a hammer work against the undead? If this were DnD then I would say yes, but I don't know how GoT rules work.

I think Shaun of the Dead rules cover it "Remove the head, or destroy the brain", whilst decapitating with a hammer is a tad unlikely the second half seems doable, also hard to shamble with no kneecaps...

Yeah. Somehow giant hammer and years of rowing and blacksmithing give you a strong hammer arm should be effective VS the undead.

If arrows etc work, a giant ass hammer will.

The arrows were tipped with dragon glass iirc, and that appears to be a 1hko against them though. Because...magic I guess?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 Turnip Jedi wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So...would a hammer work against the undead? If this were DnD then I would say yes, but I don't know how GoT rules work.

I think Shaun of the Dead rules cover it "Remove the head, or destroy the brain", whilst decapitating with a hammer is a tad unlikely the second half seems doable, also hard to shamble with no kneecaps...

Yeah. Somehow giant hammer and years of rowing and blacksmithing give you a strong hammer arm should be effective VS the undead.

If arrows etc work, a giant ass hammer will.

The arrows were tipped with dragon glass iirc, and that appears to be a 1hko against them though. Because...magic I guess?

True and John now had more than a few scavenged bits of dragon glass from the first but a rather large supply now.


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 pretre wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
And john snows band akin to the dirty dozen.
3 Season one veterans. You know stuff got serious.

I think you mean Seven Samurai since there were, you know, seven of them.

True, but given this is Got will 7 return.

I'm guessing you're not familiar with the Seven Samurai...

No.. Kinda not.

The 47 Ronin. But that did not end well for everyone.

Let's just say living through the entire adventure is not a prerequisite for inclusion.

OK, well this Got so we got used to people dieing.
Long as not John. You have a Prince promised plot arc to finish.

The hammer did a good enough job on Rhaegar when his daddy was swinging one.

Wonder if Gendry might have a crack at making some NEW Valyrian steel down the road? Jon can set him up with some dragonfire...

 gorgon wrote:
The hammer did a good enough job on Rhaegar when his daddy was swinging one.

Wonder if Gendry might have a crack at making some NEW Valyrian steel down the road? Jon can set him up with some dragonfire...

True.
What will he think when he realised the Dragons mother is the one related to the man his father killed.
Who may or may not be Jons Girlfriend.

We have layers upon layers of family issues.

I imagine that a hammer is more effective against the undead depicted on GoT than most bladed weapons, because from what we've seen its not so much about 'sticking them in the head' like it is with Walking Dead, you pretty much have to dismember them/smash them into pieces to stop them.

Thus, a hammer, which can likely shatter undead with a solid hit would probably be the best choice outside of a Valyrian (sp?) steel or dragonglass weapon.

 gorgon wrote:
The hammer did a good enough job on Rhaegar when his daddy was swinging one.

Wonder if Gendry might have a crack at making some NEW Valyrian steel down the road? Jon can set him up with some dragonfire...

Its a little unfortunate that the show hasn't really given us the backstory to appreciate Gendry fighting with a hammer.

 yakface wrote:

I imagine that a hammer is more effective against the undead depicted on GoT than most bladed weapons, because from what we've seen its not so much about 'sticking them in the head' like it is with Walking Dead, you pretty much have to dismember them/smash them into pieces to stop them.

Thus, a hammer, which can likely shatter undead with a solid hit would probably be the best choice outside of a Valyrian (sp?) steel or dragonglass weapon.

Best choice might be large, winged and be very very good at roasting things.

Not a bad episode

that steam sure grew into a big lake and it sure was easy for Bron and Jamie to escape back to Kings Landing - but hey nice touches and good story progression.

Dany burning people was fine - normal medievil solution to problems - kill those too stupid to bow to you. You need to watch the ones that do (Littlefinger style) but most people really don't care who rules - oe whose head is on a stake - see Cersei being the rightfull ruler etcc

Jory and Dany - Bless.

Good chat with Tyrion and Varis - nicely played.

Tideying up plots nicely and now we have the Seven Samurai going up north (although a quick flight with a Dragon would have done the same.

Saw Cersei's pregnancy coming - would make her the only ruler with an heir. Borther / Sister thing - worked for the Targyrians so again people simply won;t care,

I hope we don't get more of the stupid "not elves"

 Mr Morden wrote:
Not a bad episode

that steam sure grew into a big lake and it sure was easy for Bron and Jamie to escape back to Kings Landing - but hey nice touches and good story progression.

Dany burning people was fine - normal medievil solution to problems - kill those too stupid to bow to you. You need to watch the ones that do (Littlefinger style) but most people really don't care who rules - oe whose head is on a stake - see Cersei being the rightfull ruler etcc

Jory and Dany - Bless.

Good chat with Tyrion and Varis - nicely played.

Tideying up plots nicely and now we have the Seven Samurai going up north (although a quick flight with a Dragon would have done the same.

Saw Cersei's pregnancy coming - would make her the only ruler with an heir. Borther / Sister thing - worked for the Targyrians so again people simply won;t care,

I hope we don't get more of the stupid "not elves"

You can tell there short 3 episodes this season.

Well that was surprisingly good. I was expecting an episode of setting things up but it managed to throw a couple of curve balls in there.

The prospect of the war for the iron throne being put on hold, kepts Jamie and cersei in the game instead of dani winning out by the end of this season. Keeps thing much more interesting.

Gendry is back in the game, awesome. Is it just me or was his Warhammer rather black, dragonglass perhaps?

The snuck in line implying John isn't a bastard at all, and in fact rightful heir to the throne. That was really done in a subtle way, I'm sure more casual viewers won't have picked up on it.

And the showdown between Arya and little finger is being set up nicely. Littlefinger has come across as a bit helpless and out of his depth this season, in this one he seemed to be pulling the strings again.

 djones520 wrote:

Spoiler:

Awesome callback.

A friend just raised a very valid question. If Cersei intends to tell everyone she is pregnant with Jamie's child what does that mean for Euron. Given that he's the main reason the Lannisters are still around at this point, how is his loyalty going to hold up if marrying Cersei is off the table?

 Ouze wrote:
Awesome callback.

They've been setting up that mountain for a while. The armour on the White Walkers is a pyramid, likely referencing that mountain. In the Hound's vision of the army of the dead, he describes a mountain that looks like an arrowhead. I've no idea what they've been hinting at with that mountain all this time, maybe just as the home of the White Walkers?


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 Tamereth wrote:
A friend just raised a very valid question. If Cersei intends to tell everyone she is pregnant with Jamie's child what does that mean for Euron. Given that he's the main reason the Lannisters are still around at this point, how is his loyalty going to hold up if marrying Cersei is off the table?

If the prophecy Cersei received is all coming true (queen for a while, she'd have 3 kids & they would all die etc), how does the reconcile with her new pregnancy? Will she die before giving birth?

I was trying to figure out if the baby could be the brother that kills her, but I'm no good at Incest Venn Diagrams.

 d-usa wrote:
I was trying to figure out if the baby could be the brother that kills her, but I'm no good at Incest Venn Diagrams.

If it's a boy then it's Joffrey/Myrcella/Tommens little brother.

I'm going with it not being an entirely natural pregnancy, but some Frankensteinian horror cooked up by Qybern

 d-usa wrote:
I was trying to figure out if the baby could be the brother that kills her, but I'm no good at Incest Venn Diagrams.

As Jaime's baby, it'll be her son and also her nephew. I wonder what the exact words of the prophecy were? Maybe some wiggle room in there?