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admech, tau and eldar vs CSM and SM

admech, tau and eldar victory

So since the start of 8th Edition here's my Space Wolves W/L record:

(Loss) Space Wolves vs. Thousand Sons
(Win) Space Wolves vs. Space Wolves
(Win) Space Wolves vs. Orks
(Win) Space Wolves vs. Khorne Demons
(Win) Space Wolves vs. Tau
(Win) Space Wolves vs. Eldar
(Loss) Space Wolves vs. Eldar
(Win) Space Wolves vs. Eldar
(Win) Space Wolves vs. Eldar

7 Wins & 2 Losses

In addition to my previous games.. we've been busy!

Tyranids vs Orks and Tau - Tyranid Loss
Tyranids vs Dark Angels - Tyranid Win
Tyranids vs Necrons - Draw
Tyranids vs Tau - Tyranid Loss
Tyranids vs Dark Angels - Tyranid Win
Tyranids vs Ultramarines - Tyranid Win
Tyranids vs Necrons - Tyranid Win
Tyranids vs Tau and Necrons - Tyranid Loss
Tyranids vs Necrons - Tyranid Win
Tyranids vs Necrons - Tyranid Win

So far I can only throw in two losses sadly:

Death Guard vs. Necrons - DG loss
Death Guard vs. Dark Eldar - DG loss

Two more games:

Imperial Guard v. Tyranids

I set up my gunline, pretty much the same as I've always done. Enemy had first go, burrowed up a Mawloc behind my lines next to Pask and a Basilisk, and unloaded two Tyrannocytes, one of 'stealers, one of hormagaunts. He charged my perimeter, wiped out the conscripts with the Genestealers, then piled in with the Hormagaunts and a Hive Tyrant into some more of my infantry and a Leman Russ, respectively. I fell back, my Shadowsword melted the Mawloc and did a number of the 'gaunts, who had strayed out of synapse range and then all died from battlshock, and Pask did a big hit on the Hive Tyrant that was assaulting my tank. A second Mawloc burrowed up where the first one died, and some Hive Guard killed Pask. His Genestealers closed with my infantry guarding my Shadowsword, the unhurt Tyrant charged my infantry in the center, and the wounded Tyrant charged the Battle Tank, but was killed in Overwatch. He wiped out my infantry and officers. once again, the Shadowsword did a number on the Genestealers and wiped out the second Mawloc, and I put some hits on the remaining Tyrant. The Tyrant charged the Basilisk and the 'Stealers charged the Shadowsword, killing the Basilisk and doing 12 wounds to the Shadowsword. The Shadowsword killed the Tyrant and a Tyrannocyte, the Leman Russ killed the other Tyrannocyte, then fought in melee with the Genestealers. One survived by hiding under the tank. He fought me again, doing nothing, then I killed it and finished off the Hive Guard to win.


Sisters of Battle v. Thousand Sons

Fairly short. He started with only cultists on the board. I scouted forward and wiped them out, then he dropped Scarab Terminators all over the place. He focused fire on Celestine, and I had to burn a CP to make her pass her resurrection test, which I remembered a turn later he wasn't allowed to do because she's a Character and I had tanks that were closer, and killed off my Meltaguns, whom I shouldn't have unloaded. From then on, I dumped gunfire into them until they were all gone. His sorcerer also blew up with Perils, which was nifty, since he would have been a pain to deal with. Anyway, win for the Sisters.

Updated.

The 1v1 games of my group since the start of 8th:

CSM - Daemons - Win Daemon
CSM - Daemons - Win Daemon
CSM - Dark Angels - Win CSM
CSM - IG - Win IG
IG - Dark Angels - Win IG
Eldar - Dark Angels - Win Eldar
Eldar - Daemons - Win Eldar

Oh, the joy of struggling with DW.

In four 50 PL games:
DW vs Eldar - lost (tabled)
DW vs Space Marines - lost (tabled)
DW vs Space Marines - won
DW vs Eldar - lost (tabled)

-Probably- gonna shelve the DW until I can figure out some brilliant strategy, or until I can figure out vanilla marine analogues to field them as. Even when cheesing hard for the four 'free' frag cannons, I still come up short.

So what seems to be the issues for Death Guard and Deathwatch players so far? I can imagine that maybe pure DG are having issues with anti armor since they have a limited model range right now, since that seemed to be a prob in the one game against them I have played. I don't have any experience against the Deathwatch but is it a model count issue or something else?

Tau vs Nids - Nid win
IG vs Tau - IG win
IG vs Nids - IG win
Tau vs Nids - Nid win
Orks vs Eldar - Ork win
Sisters vs Orks - Sister win
Sisters vs Eldar - Sister win
Sisters vs IG - Sister win
Sisters vs IG - Sister win

Thats all my games I've seen/played in my group so far. I play the Sisters and Nids incidentally. I've still to fix up my necrons for 8th.

Imperial Knights vs Ad Mech - Knights win
Imperial Knights vs Blood Angels - Knights win
Imperial Knights vs Eldar - Eldar win
Nurgle CSM vs Nids - Nids win
Marines vs Eldar - Eldar win
Orks vs Eldar - Orks win

All games as Tyranids:

Win vs GSC/AM
Win vs Renegade Knights and Daemons
Loss vs Eldar
Loss vs Tyranids
Loss vs AdMech
Win vs AdMech
Win vs Tau
Win vs Tau
Loss vs Renegade Knights
Win vs Grey Knights
Win vs Khorne Daemons
Loss vs AM

Last 6 were at ATC

Rockfish wrote:
So what seems to be the issues for Death Guard and Deathwatch players so far? I can imagine that maybe pure DG are having issues with anti armor since they have a limited model range right now, since that seemed to be a prob in the one game against them I have played. I don't have any experience against the Deathwatch but is it a model count issue or something else?

It's mostly a model count issue, especially under power levels. Because the way power levels are for standard kill teams, it's actually CHEAPER to take two five-man units with four frag cannons a piece than a ten-man unit with six not-frag-cannon weapons. So unless I ever get to play points (which seems less and less likely to be the case among my group), I'll NEVER field DW in squads of more than five. In any case, I can easily vaporize a unit with the aforementioned fragging, but they're still only five space marines when it comes to taking hits, and the extremely low model count means they'll almost never have the kind of supporting units that SM or IG gets.

IG vs Chaos - IG wins by a hair

Thousand Sons vs GSC - Thousand Sons win

I think I finally figured out what to do with rubrics: pack the squads full of warpflamers. They're a damn good anti-horde weapon; genestealers were not half as good as they could have been because of being dusted by warpflamers (Ahriman denying the psychic power that lets you bypass overwatch helped a lot as well).

World Eaters vs IG - World Eaters win

Thousand Sons v Ultramrines - TS win
Thousand Sons v Space Wolves - TS wiin

2 games so far.

1000 Sons vs Craftworld, 1000 sons win
1000 Sons vs Craftworld, 1000 sons loss

Astra Militarum vs Ultramarine Primaris : Ulatramarines win

Guard vs nids twice: Guard won both times

Guard vs necrons three times: Guard 3 times won

Guard vs Space wolves twice. Guard both times

Guard vs chaos four times. Guard won twice

Guard vs tau: Guard

Guard vs orks twice : One guard win, one tie

Guard vs guard......uhhh guard won....

Sisters of Battle v. Imperial Guard

IG player set up kind of poorly, all things considered, and failed to properly screen his tanks in favor of seeking cover. I had first go, and scouted up the board and blew 2 of them up with my meltaguns, and wounded Pask. I also shot about 25 men dead with Storm Bolters and flamers. Hooray for hedgerows! I assault Pask with Celestine, to make sure he can't shoot. On his turn, he drops 3 squads of Stormtroopers plus their leader in my rearguard and ganks my Exorcist,. He dumps heavy weapons fire into my army, but most of it is autocannons and it's not very impressive, but it does damage a tank. He also destroys a meltagun team and almost wipes out a flamer team. On my turn, I turn my tanks around to deal with the Stormtroopers and press forward with my infantry. Celestine jumps on a Basilisk and I meltagun Pask dead, as well as converge on and kill about a dozen more infantrymen. His Stormtroopers kill my Penitent Engine, and he sticks a bit of damage to Celestine, but that's about it for his turn 2. Celestine regenerates and continues to chase the Basilisk, while I kill more of his infantry and some of his scions. He almost blows up one of my tanks on his turn with the Scions, and kills off the rest of m flamer team. Celestine blows the basilisk up, and it explodes, dealing her some pretty nasty damage, but it's okay, because all she's left facing is a Lascannon and a few guardsmen, and she hasn't gone down yet. I clean up his infantry and his scions with overwhelming firepower, and that's the game, my win.

Guard vs Gene Stealer Cult: Cult Victory
Guard vs Dark Eldar: Dark Eldar Victory
Craftworld Eldar vs World Eaters: World Eaters Win
Thousand Sons vs Space Wolves: Draw
Imperial Soup (Guard, Ad Mech and an Inquisitor as a warlord with Monkeys and Acolytes) vs Guard: Inquisitor Wins
Ad Mech vs Adepta Sororitas: Ad Mech Win
Dark Eldar vs Adepta Sororitas: Dark Eldar Win
Guard vs Chaos Marines: Chaos Win
Guard vs Tyranids: Tyranid Win
Guard vs Adepta Aroritas: Guard Win
Guard vs Tau: Guard Win

Vanilla Marines beat Orks

I don't like this page very much :(

Tau vs Blood Angels: Blood Angels win

Tau vs Guard: Guard win (though this one was super close, basically coming down to a single dice roll, only losing cause my Commander rolled a 1 on one of his MP shots meaning he failed to kill the Commissar holding the game winning objective).

 Vector Strike wrote:
I don't like this page very much :(

What's not to like about this page?

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

 Vector Strike wrote:
I don't like this page very much :(

What's not to like about this page?

quite the number of Tau losses

but tomorrow I might get a game and try to change that

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Sisters of Battle v. Imperial Guard

IG player set up kind of poorly, all things considered, and failed to properly screen his tanks in favor of seeking cover. I had first go, and scouted up the board and blew 2 of them up with my meltaguns, and wounded Pask. I also shot about 25 men dead with Storm Bolters and flamers. Hooray for hedgerows! I assault Pask with Celestine, to make sure he can't shoot. On his turn, he drops 3 squads of Stormtroopers plus their leader in my rearguard and ganks my Exorcist,. He dumps heavy weapons fire into my army, but most of it is autocannons and it's not very impressive, but it does damage a tank. He also destroys a meltagun team and almost wipes out a flamer team. On my turn, I turn my tanks around to deal with the Stormtroopers and press forward with my infantry. Celestine jumps on a Basilisk and I meltagun Pask dead, as well as converge on and kill about a dozen more infantrymen. His Stormtroopers kill my Penitent Engine, and he sticks a bit of damage to Celestine, but that's about it for his turn 2. Celestine regenerates and continues to chase the Basilisk, while I kill more of his infantry and some of his scions. He almost blows up one of my tanks on his turn with the Scions, and kills off the rest of m flamer team. Celestine blows the basilisk up, and it explodes, dealing her some pretty nasty damage, but it's okay, because all she's left facing is a Lascannon and a few guardsmen, and she hasn't gone down yet. I clean up his infantry and his scions with overwhelming firepower, and that's the game, my win.

Nicely done...

 captain bloody fists wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Sisters of Battle v. Imperial Guard

IG player set up kind of poorly, all things considered, and failed to properly screen his tanks in favor of seeking cover. I had first go, and scouted up the board and blew 2 of them up with my meltaguns, and wounded Pask. I also shot about 25 men dead with Storm Bolters and flamers. Hooray for hedgerows! I assault Pask with Celestine, to make sure he can't shoot. On his turn, he drops 3 squads of Stormtroopers plus their leader in my rearguard and ganks my Exorcist,. He dumps heavy weapons fire into my army, but most of it is autocannons and it's not very impressive, but it does damage a tank. He also destroys a meltagun team and almost wipes out a flamer team. On my turn, I turn my tanks around to deal with the Stormtroopers and press forward with my infantry. Celestine jumps on a Basilisk and I meltagun Pask dead, as well as converge on and kill about a dozen more infantrymen. His Stormtroopers kill my Penitent Engine, and he sticks a bit of damage to Celestine, but that's about it for his turn 2. Celestine regenerates and continues to chase the Basilisk, while I kill more of his infantry and some of his scions. He almost blows up one of my tanks on his turn with the Scions, and kills off the rest of m flamer team. Celestine blows the basilisk up, and it explodes, dealing her some pretty nasty damage, but it's okay, because all she's left facing is a Lascannon and a few guardsmen, and she hasn't gone down yet. I clean up his infantry and his scions with overwhelming firepower, and that's the game, my win.

Nicely done...

Thanks, I guess. I pulled my punches a bit because I could tell he was a bit, well, let's just say less-skilled, on set up when he set his tanks without adequate screening.