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2017/08/12 03:39:02
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
I Vanguarded across the board and took out about 2/3 of his 'gaunts on turn 1. He dropped 3 lictors and engaged my Exorcist in melee. Then, I killed the rest of his 'gaunts. I think part of the problem was that his list, which was built to be a Brigade, just was full of sub-optimal units and didn't have enough hard hitting things to even have a chance of dealing with me.
Sisters v. Chaos Space Marines
I vanguarded forward and blew up his heavy options, then wiped out a big squad of Rubrics with Celestine in CQC. That was effectively that, because he conceeded, the warp showing him no paths that lead to victory.
Others:
Tau v. Orks
Chaos Space Marnes v. Admech
Space Marines [Codex] v. Death Guard
Space Marines [Codex] v. Chaos Space Marines
What the heck force are you using, anyway? I know Sisters, but what kind of comp is this? You've pretty much single-handedly defined the performance of the Sisters around here and I'm super curious as to what the heck you're doing with them to get such absurd wins.
2017/08/12 05:36:54
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
I Vanguarded across the board and took out about 2/3 of his 'gaunts on turn 1. He dropped 3 lictors and engaged my Exorcist in melee. Then, I killed the rest of his 'gaunts. I think part of the problem was that his list, which was built to be a Brigade, just was full of sub-optimal units and didn't have enough hard hitting things to even have a chance of dealing with me.
Sisters v. Chaos Space Marines
I vanguarded forward and blew up his heavy options, then wiped out a big squad of Rubrics with Celestine in CQC. That was effectively that, because he conceeded, the warp showing him no paths that lead to victory.
Others:
Tau v. Orks
Chaos Space Marnes v. Admech
Space Marines [Codex] v. Death Guard
Space Marines [Codex] v. Chaos Space Marines
What the heck force are you using, anyway? I know Sisters, but what kind of comp is this? You've pretty much single-handedly defined the performance of the Sisters around here and I'm super curious as to what the heck you're doing with them to get such absurd wins.
The local league is currently using 75PL as the standard for games.
Curiously, this is only my second time playing in a competitive scenario [and in this case, competitive means "prize for the victor"]. I would be lying if I called myself a casual player, though, as my close friends can attest.
The important thing is understanding your army and why it's good. I've met and bested an IG player who was running a gunline, but didn't actually understand how it worked and play it to the best of it's ability. Ditto tenfold for Space Marines. Just dropping 100 guys and a few Manticores on the board in a pile does not win the game. That's actually one of the thing I like a lot about this edition. You actually have to play and understand how your list works, what it's weaknesses are, and what it's strengths are if you intend to win.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades!
2017/08/12 06:44:29
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
I Vanguarded across the board and took out about 2/3 of his 'gaunts on turn 1. He dropped 3 lictors and engaged my Exorcist in melee. Then, I killed the rest of his 'gaunts. I think part of the problem was that his list, which was built to be a Brigade, just was full of sub-optimal units and didn't have enough hard hitting things to even have a chance of dealing with me.
Sisters v. Chaos Space Marines
I vanguarded forward and blew up his heavy options, then wiped out a big squad of Rubrics with Celestine in CQC. That was effectively that, because he conceeded, the warp showing him no paths that lead to victory.
Others:
Tau v. Orks
Chaos Space Marnes v. Admech
Space Marines [Codex] v. Death Guard
Space Marines [Codex] v. Chaos Space Marines
What the heck force are you using, anyway? I know Sisters, but what kind of comp is this? You've pretty much single-handedly defined the performance of the Sisters around here and I'm super curious as to what the heck you're doing with them to get such absurd wins.
The local league is currently using 75PL as the standard for games.
Curiously, this is only my second time playing in a competitive scenario [and in this case, competitive means "prize for the victor"]. I would be lying if I called myself a casual player, though, as my close friends can attest.
The important thing is understanding your army and why it's good. I've met and bested an IG player who was running a gunline, but didn't actually understand how it worked and play it to the best of it's ability. Ditto tenfold for Space Marines. Just dropping 100 guys and a few Manticores on the board in a pile does not win the game. That's actually one of the thing I like a lot about this edition. You actually have to play and understand how your list works, what it's weaknesses are, and what it's strengths are if you intend to win.
I dunno, you're effectively punching at 200 points above weight due to PL's wonkiness. Putting your list into Battlescribe it came out to 1702 points where a 75 pl game is roughly equivalent to 1500.
The Guard player would have likely struggled to squeeze an effective list out of 75 pl due to how expensive everything is or take expensive options that don't help out. For example, taking a 3x mortar HWS in PL is insane as you're effectively paying 60 'points' for a 27 point unit.
Just made a rough 75pl list for the guard player based on your description and came out to 1495. 3 basilisks, 100 conscripts, 3 wyverns, a manticore, and 4 infantry squads with las/plas. 3 company commanders and 3 commissars. Granted, I could have probably tacked on 100 points in wargear onto the officers, but you would never do that in an actual points based list.
This isn't a dig on you or your abilities, you've made what looks like an extremely effective and strong list and clearly know how to use it. But at least part of your success is due to using a casual format that seems to favor your faction while handicapping at least one of your opponents'.
TLR power level in a competitive setting is silly
2017/08/12 07:12:31
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
The important thing is understanding your army and why it's good.
I dunno, you're effectively punching at 200 points above weight due to PL's wonkiness.
But isn't it the same thing? The combination of underpriced stuff and knowing how to run it makes the army effective. Like 7-th eldar and magic deathstars.
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2017/08/12 11:29:50
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
The important thing is understanding your army and why it's good.
I dunno, you're effectively punching at 200 points above weight due to PL's wonkiness.
But isn't it the same thing? The combination of underpriced stuff and knowing how to run it makes the army effective. Like 7-th eldar and magic deathstars.
Maybe I'm biased because I'm guard but there really aren't any underpriced things in the Guard index when using PL. Best case scenario is finding stuff that breaks even at the 20:1 exchange ratio and even then you're missing out on most of the amazingly points efficient things like Taurox Primes and Mortars. Scions with 4x meltas would be one of the few 'value' items the Guard have under PL.
Most of the expensive 'free' upgrades PL opens up don't bring anything to the table for Guard. Infantry squads are 3 PL and Veteran squads are 6 PL FFS when my average infantry squad runs 55 points and I can't come up with a good reason to even bring the equivalent of a 120 point veteran squad. That's basically charging me for 3 specials, a heavy, and the heavy flamer plus whatever other upgrades they can take for what would normally be maybe an 80-90 point unit. Company Commanders, of which you usually need 2-3, run 3 PL each. What the hell am I going to give them to make them worth 60 points? Even Plasma Pistol/Power Fist only runs 55.
You can then say that Guard are bottom tier for playing PL games but they rock at points. The difference being that GW is actively making adjustments to points values and has not really messed with PL's. I fully expect a lot of things that are currently extremely efficient points-wise to get adjusted whereas I sincerely doubt PL's will get changed any time soon. This lack of support should be seen as further evidence that PL is not suited for competitive play.
2017/08/12 11:39:58
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
So I played in a couple 2k tourneys and other games, and here are my results.
BA vs Knights/SoB - BA win
BA vs Custodes/SoS/Marines - BA win
BA vs GK - BA win
BA vs SW - BA win
BA vs Chaos - BA win
BA vs Harlies/Eldar - Harlies/Eldar win
BA vs Chaos - BA win
Personally I'm around 11-2-0 with my BA in this new edition. I'm loving putting Sanguinary Guard in a Spartan. I dubbed it the Barrel 'O Bees.
2017/08/12 13:01:32
Subject: Re:We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
I Vanguarded across the board and took out about 2/3 of his 'gaunts on turn 1. He dropped 3 lictors and engaged my Exorcist in melee. Then, I killed the rest of his 'gaunts. I think part of the problem was that his list, which was built to be a Brigade, just was full of sub-optimal units and didn't have enough hard hitting things to even have a chance of dealing with me.
Sisters v. Chaos Space Marines
I vanguarded forward and blew up his heavy options, then wiped out a big squad of Rubrics with Celestine in CQC. That was effectively that, because he conceeded, the warp showing him no paths that lead to victory.
Others:
Tau v. Orks
Chaos Space Marnes v. Admech
Space Marines [Codex] v. Death Guard
Space Marines [Codex] v. Chaos Space Marines
What the heck force are you using, anyway? I know Sisters, but what kind of comp is this? You've pretty much single-handedly defined the performance of the Sisters around here and I'm super curious as to what the heck you're doing with them to get such absurd wins.
The local league is currently using 75PL as the standard for games.
Curiously, this is only my second time playing in a competitive scenario [and in this case, competitive means "prize for the victor"]. I would be lying if I called myself a casual player, though, as my close friends can attest.
The important thing is understanding your army and why it's good. I've met and bested an IG player who was running a gunline, but didn't actually understand how it worked and play it to the best of it's ability. Ditto tenfold for Space Marines. Just dropping 100 guys and a few Manticores on the board in a pile does not win the game. That's actually one of the thing I like a lot about this edition. You actually have to play and understand how your list works, what it's weaknesses are, and what it's strengths are if you intend to win.
I dunno, you're effectively punching at 200 points above weight due to PL's wonkiness. Putting your list into Battlescribe it came out to 1702 points where a 75 pl game is roughly equivalent to 1500.
The Guard player would have likely struggled to squeeze an effective list out of 75 pl due to how expensive everything is or take expensive options that don't help out. For example, taking a 3x mortar HWS in PL is insane as you're effectively paying 60 'points' for a 27 point unit.
Just made a rough 75pl list for the guard player based on your description and came out to 1495. 3 basilisks, 100 conscripts, 3 wyverns, a manticore, and 4 infantry squads with las/plas. 3 company commanders and 3 commissars. Granted, I could have probably tacked on 100 points in wargear onto the officers, but you would never do that in an actual points based list.
This isn't a dig on you or your abilities, you've made what looks like an extremely effective and strong list and clearly know how to use it. But at least part of your success is due to using a casual format that seems to favor your faction while handicapping at least one of your opponents'.
TLR power level in a competitive setting is silly
Sisters are pretty good in points matches too. Acts of Faith are extremely potent. The last person I played had the characters that give additional Acts of Faith on a 4+ and was firing Heavy Bolters all day long.
YMDC = nightmare
2017/08/12 18:19:53
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
The important thing is understanding your army and why it's good.
I dunno, you're effectively punching at 200 points above weight due to PL's wonkiness.
But isn't it the same thing? The combination of underpriced stuff and knowing how to run it makes the army effective. Like 7-th eldar and magic deathstars.
Maybe I'm biased because I'm guard but there really aren't any underpriced things in the Guard index when using PL. Best case scenario is finding stuff that breaks even at the 20:1 exchange ratio and even then you're missing out on most of the amazingly points efficient things like Taurox Primes and Mortars. Scions with 4x meltas would be one of the few 'value' items the Guard have under PL.
Most of the expensive 'free' upgrades PL opens up don't bring anything to the table for Guard. Infantry squads are 3 PL and Veteran squads are 6 PL FFS when my average infantry squad runs 55 points and I can't come up with a good reason to even bring the equivalent of a 120 point veteran squad. That's basically charging me for 3 specials, a heavy, and the heavy flamer plus whatever other upgrades they can take for what would normally be maybe an 80-90 point unit. Company Commanders, of which you usually need 2-3, run 3 PL each. What the hell am I going to give them to make them worth 60 points? Even Plasma Pistol/Power Fist only runs 55.
You can then say that Guard are bottom tier for playing PL games but they rock at points. The difference being that GW is actively making adjustments to points values and has not really messed with PL's. I fully expect a lot of things that are currently extremely efficient points-wise to get adjusted whereas I sincerely doubt PL's will get changed any time soon. This lack of support should be seen as further evidence that PL is not suited for competitive play.
I Vanguarded across the board and took out about 2/3 of his 'gaunts on turn 1. He dropped 3 lictors and engaged my Exorcist in melee. Then, I killed the rest of his 'gaunts. I think part of the problem was that his list, which was built to be a Brigade, just was full of sub-optimal units and didn't have enough hard hitting things to even have a chance of dealing with me.
Sisters v. Chaos Space Marines
I vanguarded forward and blew up his heavy options, then wiped out a big squad of Rubrics with Celestine in CQC. That was effectively that, because he conceeded, the warp showing him no paths that lead to victory.
Others:
Tau v. Orks
Chaos Space Marnes v. Admech
Space Marines [Codex] v. Death Guard
Space Marines [Codex] v. Chaos Space Marines
What the heck force are you using, anyway? I know Sisters, but what kind of comp is this? You've pretty much single-handedly defined the performance of the Sisters around here and I'm super curious as to what the heck you're doing with them to get such absurd wins.
The local league is currently using 75PL as the standard for games.
Curiously, this is only my second time playing in a competitive scenario [and in this case, competitive means "prize for the victor"]. I would be lying if I called myself a casual player, though, as my close friends can attest.
The important thing is understanding your army and why it's good. I've met and bested an IG player who was running a gunline, but didn't actually understand how it worked and play it to the best of it's ability. Ditto tenfold for Space Marines. Just dropping 100 guys and a few Manticores on the board in a pile does not win the game. That's actually one of the thing I like a lot about this edition. You actually have to play and understand how your list works, what it's weaknesses are, and what it's strengths are if you intend to win.
I dunno, you're effectively punching at 200 points above weight due to PL's wonkiness. Putting your list into Battlescribe it came out to 1702 points where a 75 pl game is roughly equivalent to 1500.
The Guard player would have likely struggled to squeeze an effective list out of 75 pl due to how expensive everything is or take expensive options that don't help out. For example, taking a 3x mortar HWS in PL is insane as you're effectively paying 60 'points' for a 27 point unit.
Just made a rough 75pl list for the guard player based on your description and came out to 1495. 3 basilisks, 100 conscripts, 3 wyverns, a manticore, and 4 infantry squads with las/plas. 3 company commanders and 3 commissars. Granted, I could have probably tacked on 100 points in wargear onto the officers, but you would never do that in an actual points based list.
This isn't a dig on you or your abilities, you've made what looks like an extremely effective and strong list and clearly know how to use it. But at least part of your success is due to using a casual format that seems to favor your faction while handicapping at least one of your opponents'.
TLR power level in a competitive setting is silly
My Guard have a very effective 75PL list, and it works out to being worth about 1600 points. Most everyone, save an Ork player who's only lost one game are running over 1500 by a fair amount.
Also, I don't know why you have 3 CC's and 3 Commissars, one of each would do entirely adequately. Let me fix that for you: 1 CC, 1 Commissar, 100 Conscripts, 4 las/plas infantry, 1 Wyvern, 2 Manticores, Pask, Tank Commander. Power Axes, Storm Bolters, and H-K missiles for everyone makes for 550 easily. Pask and the Tank Commander are both way under where their PL suggests they should be, and they're not getting full efficiency from their orders, so replacing them with more worthwhile units is an obvious improvement, bringing the new list to: 1 Company Commander, 3 Tempestor Primes, 2 50x Concsripts, 2 Las-Plas Infantry, 3 Stormtrooper Plasmagun Command Squads, 1 Commissar, 3 Wyverns, 3 Manticores, for 1600.
The Sisters list is also so expensive because I've tacked on almost-useless upgrades, like Power Axes and Inferno Pistols, because I can. There's about 100 points in upgrades that don't get used that I have because they're free and I might as well have them, just in case.
Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades!
2017/08/13 02:16:28
Subject: Re:We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
Got in two games today, with my MIXED INDEX DAEMONS and CSM CODEX army. [mostly mixed to include a Knight, Karanak and more summoning options.]
First game was a WIN. 2000 points, vs Tau. Maelstrom, Cloak and Shadows. Hammer and Anvil. He had Longstrike, a bunch of firewarriors, two broadsides, and a Stormsurge in his zone. He dropped down his Commander and 2x3 Suits to try to take out my Knight and Helbrute, but due to a few lucky saves on my part, they both survived relatively unharmed. Interestingly, he also dropped a squad of Vespid down. I managed to summon a squad of Plaguebearers in the middle board, and together with the Plague Marines, managed to keep most of his force blocked from advancing further, so I manged to claim more objectives [the Codex's objective secured-esque rule really helped me here]. He forfeited on the fourth turn, as he had 7 VPs to my 12.
Second game was a LOSS - 1250, Tactical Escalation, vs Blood Angels. Not a lot to say about this one - I'm not used to 1250, and my dice were COMPLETELY against me this game. Rolling 1s and 2s everywhere, and losing my Tzeentch DP in one go against a Dreadnought.
2017/08/13 06:01:00
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
My results from the recent local tournament:
Dark Eldar vs. SM (Codex) + GK (Codex) - Dark Eldar win.
Dark Eldar vs. Imperial Knights + AdMech - IK win.
Dark Eldar vs. Imperial Knights + Plasma Scions - tie.
Drukhari - 4.7k
Space Marines - 3.1k
Chaos Space Marines - 2.9k
Harlequins - 0.9k
2017/08/13 10:46:18
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
This was a hilarious loss. Was on track to win as the Tau just had longstrike with 1 wound and in half distance range if 2 frag cannons, farsight with 4 wounds on the opposite end if the board, and like 8 kroot, the Corvus failed its last save against a weapon with no AP. Rolled a 6, then rolled a 5 on mortal wounds for my 5man kill team and a 6 on my full health watchmaster. GG RNGesus.
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2017/08/13 13:18:32
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
Here are my results for my custodes forces so far:
Custodes vs CSM (Nurgle Deathguard) (9-3) @ 2k points -Custodes Win
Custodes vs Space Marines (27-7) @ 2k points - Custodes Win (Space marines used their codex)
Custodes vs Astra Milliatrum (12-3) @ 2k points - Custodes Win
Custodes vs Tau (11-3) @ 2k points -Custodes Win
Custodes vs Tyranids (4-1) @ 2k points - Custodes Win
No losses yet, So far so good, but most of the wins were due to either extremely good luck on my part (Tyranids) or extremely poor positioning on my opponent's part(Guard). I suspect both those armies could table me if the dice swung the other way or my opponent deployed correctly. Still, custodes hold objectives very well and that's been winning me games.
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MRRF 300pts
Adeptus Custodes: 2250pts
2017/08/13 19:46:38
Subject: Re:We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
Played 3 games in a tournament yesterday:
Game 1: Dark Angels vs. Tyranids/Genestealer Cult: Nids victory
Game 2: Dark Angels vs. Astra Militarum: Ended with a tie.
Game 3: Dark Angels vs. Tau Empire: Dark Angels Victory
My armies (re-counted and updated on 11/7/24, including modeled wargear options):
Dark Angels: ~16000 Astra Militarum: ~1200 | Imperial Knights: ~2300 | Leagues of Votann: ~1300 | Tyranids: ~3400 | Stormcast Eternals: ~5000 | Kruleboyz: ~3500 | Lumineth Realm-Lords: ~700
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2017/08/13 19:58:50
Subject: Re:We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
(1500pts) Blood Angels vs Astra Militarum: Blood Angels Win
(1750pts) Blood Angels vs Astra Militarum: Blood Angels Win
(2000pts) Blood Angels vs Astra Militarum: Astra Militarum Win
(2150pts) Blood Angels vs Astra Militarum: Blood Angels Win
Note the Astra Militarum lists did not have conscripts and were heavily mechanized. The Blood Angels had a Stormraven and were heavy Death Company.
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Mulletdude wrote: So I played in a couple 2k tourneys and other games, and here are my results.
BA vs Knights/SoB - BA win
BA vs Custodes/SoS/Marines - BA win
BA vs GK - BA win
BA vs SW - BA win
BA vs Chaos - BA win
BA vs Harlies/Eldar - Harlies/Eldar win
BA vs Chaos - BA win
Personally I'm around 11-2-0 with my BA in this new edition. I'm loving putting Sanguinary Guard in a Spartan. I dubbed it the Barrel 'O Bees.
What is the list you are using? Can you PM me with it?
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2017/08/13 21:30:35
Subject: Re:We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
I decided to play my Space Wolves for this game. My one Land Raider did all the lifting. At the end, 1 of the knights was dead and 2 had 2 wounds remaining, and the last was at 12, all because of the one Land Raider. My Wolf Guard and Long Fangs did, not, however do so well. They did contribute, but a second Land Raider would have done way more, or a pair of Predators. Unfortunately, I don't own another Land Raider or any Predators.
I am impressed with the Land Raider. Having re-rolls of 1 to hit and to wound from characters hiding behind it helped a lot, as did being T8, since it made it bounce a lot of fire the Knights sent my way.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades!
2017/08/13 22:33:38
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
8th is clearly their edition. I look forward to the codex coming out and ruining Acts of Faith for us.
Yeah i'm waiting for the other foot to drop myself...
I'd really like to fight a Sororita list (don't know anyone around here who uses them unfortunetly), I don't understand how they can be so powerful considering how squishy their units are. :/
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Marmatag wrote: All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
R power level in a competitive setting is silly
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Night Lord XIII Company: 6,600 Points, 12W-4L
Skaven Cheese-stealer Renegade Cult: 2,000 points, 0-0
Warboss Spine Squisha's Ork Warband: 3,000 Points, 1W-3L
Carcharadons Astra: 2000 Points, 11-2
Drukhari: 1250 Points, 2-0
MRRF 300pts
Adeptus Custodes: 2250pts 
~16000 Astra Militarum: 
~1200 | Imperial Knights: 
~2300 | Leagues of Votann: 
~1300 | Tyranids: 
~3500 | Lumineth Realm-Lords: 
~700
: 4500pts
