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Evasive Eshin Assassin






go to the latest post for updated ramblings...

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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2017/07/26 10:35:30


 
   
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Powerful Phoenix Lord





They definitely scram standard guardsman to me. I'd actually use their bodies but order some better weapons/arms/heads.
   
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Killer Klaivex




The dark behind the eyes.

I'd say either Veterans or Scions (though they work fine as standard guardsmen, too). I'd probably lean towards Scions due to their masks.


I have an alternative possibility though - special weapon troops. Have these guys be the ones carrying the plasmaguns, flamers or whatever in each squad.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Look like standard (steel legion or even Death Korps) guard to me, but they could also pass for having carapace armour with that chest piece.

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My base guard is made of those guys - as standard troops.

I'm actually using Cadians as Scions...

It never ends well 
   
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The Last Chancer Who Survived




United Kingdom

I bought a bunch and used them interchangeably as Guardsman and Veterans. Just make sure to paint the line on the shoulder pads a distinct colour for special weapon holders - most of my opponents couldn't tell the difference between the guns without them being as overblown as in 40k.
   
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Another "these are my standard line infantry" guard player here. With the new rules I'm probably going to be fielding a lot as conscripts, but prior to this I'd been running the guys with the pictured helmets as guardsmen and the more armored-front-looking helmets as vets. I used the special weapons as stand-ins for Guard special weapons (flamer and grenade launcher are obvious, the long barrel with the cooling vanes as plasma, and the stubby one as melta) and upgraded the rifles with scopes and extended barrels for snipers. I recommend getting the heavy weapons boxes as well because they have good equivalents as well as officers.
   
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Just remembered my dudes (my painting style from that time was... erm...):
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The dark behind the eyes.

 Selym wrote:
Just make sure to paint the line on the shoulder pads a distinct colour for special weapon holders - most of my opponents couldn't tell the difference between the guns without them being as overblown as in 40k.


Couldn't you just paint the special weapons in more vivid colours?

Something like this:
Spoiler:


(Plasmagunner)

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Evasive Eshin Assassin






these guys also come with these alternate heads.
Spoiler:


do you think they would work as a genestealer cult?
   
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Killer Klaivex




The dark behind the eyes.

If you want a genestealer cult, shouldn't you stick genestealer heads on them?

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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 vipoid wrote:
 Selym wrote:
Just make sure to paint the line on the shoulder pads a distinct colour for special weapon holders - most of my opponents couldn't tell the difference between the guns without them being as overblown as in 40k.


Couldn't you just paint the special weapons in more vivid colours?

Something like this:
Spoiler:


(Plasmagunner)
Huh. I always took that gun to be the lasrfile equivalent :-|
   
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I have a bunch of them and used them as veterans, but nowadays I use them as Inquisition Acolytes.
   
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The dark behind the eyes.

 Selym wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
 Selym wrote:
Just make sure to paint the line on the shoulder pads a distinct colour for special weapon holders - most of my opponents couldn't tell the difference between the guns without them being as overblown as in 40k.


Couldn't you just paint the special weapons in more vivid colours?

Something like this:
Spoiler:


(Plasmagunner)
Huh. I always took that gun to be the lasrfile equivalent :-|


You're probably right, but I was short of special weapons and this one looked the most plasmagun-y to me.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Evasive Eshin Assassin






so which backpack do you guys like?
i thought the mechanicus one would make a good vox caster while the white one would be good for basic troopers.
thoughts?
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The dark behind the eyes.

Do the basic guys need backpacks?

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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No, but it's cool af!
   
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nah, they dont need them but i always seem to like them having them
   
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Bog standard guardsmen I'd say.

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Evasive Eshin Assassin






yeah, ive decided to use them as basic troopers now but was wondering which backpack looked batter.
   
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So the next step is to find a command.
Any suggestions?

I'm replacing the standard arms with laspistol and chainsword arms from ig but i thought command would need more.
   
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 usernamesareannoying wrote:
So the next step is to find a command.
Any suggestions?

I'm replacing the standard arms with laspistol and chainsword arms from ig but i thought command would need more.
Get a MT scion box, put together a commander with a greatcoat.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Militarum-Tempestus-Scions-Command-Squad

Be sure to give him the gas mask option from that box.

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The dark behind the eyes.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
So the next step is to find a command.
Any suggestions?

I'm replacing the standard arms with laspistol and chainsword arms from ig but i thought command would need more.


I don't know if it helps, but the greatcoat troopers heavy weapons box comes with 2 command models.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Evasive Eshin Assassin






Thanks vipoid, i didn't know that. Someone told me not long ago that for some reason the scale is off oin the heavy weapons box. Do you know if that id's true at all?

Selym, those mt may be a good idea. I do like them a lot.
   
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The dark behind the eyes.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
Thanks vipoid, i didn't know that. Someone told me not long ago that for some reason the scale is off oin the heavy weapons box. Do you know if that id's true at all?


I've taken some pictures for you so that you can judge for yourself.

Spoiler:
Normal Greatcoat Trooper, Heavy Weapon Greatcoat Trooper and Captain:


Normal Greatcoat Trooper and Captain:


Normal Greatcoat Trooper and Captain (different angle):


Normal Greatcoat Trooper and Heavy Weapon Greatcoat Trooper:


(I know the quality isn't amazing, but hopefully it's good enough for a size-comparison.)


The normal greatcoat trooper looks about the same size as the one sitting at the heavy weapon. The captain model does look a bit smaller but I can't tell if that's more to do with his pose, lack of armour and the fact that the greatcoat trooper has his own base (which I glued to the proper base, instead of removing).

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 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Evasive Eshin Assassin






wow, thats great vipoid, thanks for the extra work.
they are an odd bunch... the commander is a little off for some reason and youre right, its a little hard to put my finger on why.

im not removing my molded base either. i didnt think it was worth the effort.
   
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The dark behind the eyes.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
wow, thats great vipoid, thanks for the extra work.


No worries.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
they are an odd bunch... the commander is a little off for some reason and youre right, its a little hard to put my finger on why.


For what it's worth, I quite like the commander sculpts and if nothing else they do stand out quite well from the rank and file guys.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
im not removing my molded base either. i didnt think it was worth the effort.


Yeah, it seemed like a lot of hassle for not a lot of gain. I think once the model is based (or even just has both bases painted black) it won't really be noticeable.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Evasive Eshin Assassin






So my next question is if i want to use the stormtroopers as veterans and standard troops, how would you differentiate them?
   
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Vets: Green Helmets
Scrubs: Red Helmets

That's how I did mine.
   
 
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