wargames factory greatcoat troopers... what to use for command?

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**usernamesareannoying**

go to the latest post for updated ramblings...

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**Elbows**

They definitely scram standard guardsman to me. I'd actually use their bodies but order some better weapons/arms/heads.

**vipoid**

I'd say either Veterans or Scions (though they work fine as standard guardsmen, too). I'd probably lean towards Scions due to their masks.

I have an alternative possibility though - special weapon troops. Have these guys be the ones carrying the plasmaguns, flamers or whatever in each squad.

**Gunzhard**

Look like standard (steel legion or even Death Korps) guard to me, but they could also pass for having carapace armour with that chest piece.

**Stormonu**

My base guard is made of those guys - as standard troops.

I'm actually using Cadians as Scions...

**Selym**

I bought a bunch and used them interchangeably as Guardsman and Veterans. Just make sure to paint the line on the shoulder pads a distinct colour for special weapon holders - most of my opponents couldn't tell the difference between the guns without them being as overblown as in 40k.

**Bludbaff**

Another "these are my standard line infantry" guard player here. With the new rules I'm probably going to be fielding a lot as conscripts, but prior to this I'd been running the guys with the pictured helmets as guardsmen and the more armored-front-looking helmets as vets. I used the special weapons as stand-ins for Guard special weapons (flamer and grenade launcher are obvious, the long barrel with the cooling vanes as plasma, and the stubby one as melta) and upgraded the rifles with scopes and extended barrels for snipers. I recommend getting the heavy weapons boxes as well because they have good equivalents as well as officers.

**Selym**

Just remembered my dudes (my painting style from that time was... erm...):

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**vipoid**

Selym wrote:
Just make sure to paint the line on the shoulder pads a distinct colour for special weapon holders - most of my opponents couldn't tell the difference between the guns without them being as overblown as in 40k.

Couldn't you just paint the special weapons in more vivid colours?

Something like this:

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**usernamesareannoying**

these guys also come with these alternate heads.

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do you think they would work as a genestealer cult?

**vipoid**

If you want a genestealer cult, shouldn't you stick genestealer heads on them?

**Selym**

vipoid wrote:
Selym wrote:
Just make sure to paint the line on the shoulder pads a distinct colour for special weapon holders - most of my opponents couldn't tell the difference between the guns without them being as overblown as in 40k.

Couldn't you just paint the special weapons in more vivid colours?

Something like this:

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(Plasmagunner)

Huh. I always took that gun to be the lasrfile equivalent :-|

**SU-152**

I have a bunch of them and used them as veterans, but nowadays I use them as Inquisition Acolytes.

**Lobokai**

Kreig?

**vipoid**

Selym wrote:
vipoid wrote:
Selym wrote:
Just make sure to paint the line on the shoulder pads a distinct colour for special weapon holders - most of my opponents couldn't tell the difference between the guns without them being as overblown as in 40k.

Couldn't you just paint the special weapons in more vivid colours?

Something like this:

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(Plasmagunner)

Huh. I always took that gun to be the lasrfile equivalent :-|

You're probably right, but I was short of special weapons and this one looked the most plasmagun-y to me.

**usernamesareannoying**

so which backpack do you guys like?
i thought the mechanicus one would make a good vox caster while the white one would be good for basic troopers.
thoughts?

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**vipoid**

Do the basic guys need backpacks?

**Selym**

No, but it's cool af!

**usernamesareannoying**

nah, they dont need them but i always seem to like them having them

**Melissia**

Bog standard guardsmen I'd say.

**usernamesareannoying**

yeah, ive decided to use them as basic troopers now but was wondering which backpack looked batter.

**usernamesareannoying**

So the next step is to find a command.
Any suggestions?

I'm replacing the standard arms with laspistol and chainsword arms from ig but i thought command would need more.

**Selym**

usernamesareannoying wrote:
So the next step is to find a command.
Any suggestions?

I'm replacing the standard arms with laspistol and chainsword arms from ig but i thought command would need more.

Get a MT scion box, put together a commander with a greatcoat.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Militarum-Tempestus-Scions-Command-Squad

Be sure to give him the gas mask option from that box.

**vipoid**

usernamesareannoying wrote:
So the next step is to find a command.
Any suggestions?

I'm replacing the standard arms with laspistol and chainsword arms from ig but i thought command would need more.

I don't know if it helps, but the greatcoat troopers heavy weapons box comes with 2 command models.

**usernamesareannoying**

Thanks vipoid, i didn't know that. Someone told me not long ago that for some reason the scale is off oin the heavy weapons box. Do you know if that id's true at all?

Selym, those mt may be a good idea. I do like them a lot.

**vipoid**

usernamesareannoying wrote:
Thanks vipoid, i didn't know that. Someone told me not long ago that for some reason the scale is off oin the heavy weapons box. Do you know if that id's true at all?

I've taken some pictures for you so that you can judge for yourself.

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The normal greatcoat trooper looks about the same size as the one sitting at the heavy weapon. The captain model does look a bit smaller but I can't tell if that's more to do with his pose, lack of armour and the fact that the greatcoat trooper has his own base (which I glued to the proper base, instead of removing).

**usernamesareannoying**

wow, thats great vipoid, thanks for the extra work.
they are an odd bunch... the commander is a little off for some reason and youre right, its a little hard to put my finger on why.

im not removing my molded base either. i didnt think it was worth the effort.

**vipoid**

usernamesareannoying wrote:
wow, thats great vipoid, thanks for the extra work.

No worries.

usernamesareannoying wrote:
they are an odd bunch... the commander is a little off for some reason and youre right, its a little hard to put my finger on why.

For what it's worth, I quite like the commander sculpts and if nothing else they do stand out quite well from the rank and file guys.

usernamesareannoying wrote:
im not removing my molded base either. i didnt think it was worth the effort.

Yeah, it seemed like a lot of hassle for not a lot of gain. I think once the model is based (or even just has both bases painted black) it won't really be noticeable.

**usernamesareannoying**

So my next question is if i want to use the stormtroopers as veterans and standard troops, how would you differentiate them?

**Selym**

Vets: Green Helmets
Scrubs: Red Helmets

That's how I did mine.