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Does Warmahordes really use 2D terrain?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Does Warmahordes really use 2D terrain?

Yes, unfortunately it is something championed by the tournament players for accurate movement......and it makes the table look terrible. i have a large collection of great looking ESLO hobby finished 3d terrain i got just for WM/H

Khorne vs dg. Was worried as bloodletter dam2 loses effect and -1t tough.

T2 skarbrand failed 6" rerollable charge...tried to save him by using pile :n stratagem to create screen between him and terminators but those died. With extra attack per model courtesy of skarbrand died fast...

However i controlled sides and 10 terminators can't be everywhere. Daemon prince killed 3 heroes for assasinate. 83-49 win in the end. Mostly thanks to board control.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Does Warmahordes really use 2D terrain?

Been normal in tournaments for years.

Not that it looks much worse than typical 40k table with l shaped thin cardboard ruins in symmetric positions...

In less 2D environments, some Kill Team on the rad-wastes of Old Earth. The sorcerous Philosopher Kings gave them soldier boys a spanking.

Great to see the warriors of Khorne deliver a beating to the servants of Nurgle.

Also beautiful layout Sherrypie. What are you using for the backdrop?

 The Red Hobbit wrote:


Also beautiful layout Sherrypie. What are you using for the backdrop?

Thanks. Photo manipulation, my kitchen table isn't particularly post-apocalyptic most of the time. Just erased the unwanted bits and put a red evening sky behind it.

Sherrypie - knocking it out of the park since the Unification Wars!

 Gordy2000 wrote:
Sherrypie - knocking it out of the park since the Unification Wars!

"Est. M29 - The Choice of Champions"

Not that it looks much worse than typical 40k table with l shaped thin cardboard ruins in symmetric positions...

Both HBMC and I hate that kind of thing. since both of us have been at this for so long having a fantastic looking table that makes sense (like NOT being symmetrical mirrors, or having buildings in the middle of a street for example) is a really important thing for us.


Another fantastic game night at the FLGS

battletech is always with us







The 40K table was set up for the mechanicus forge. the first game was a smallish 9th ed game of orks VS tyranids



Game 2 was supposed to be my rematch against khorne berserkers. however, we got a late start so i gave my spot up for our iron warriors player to do a 3.5 chaos warband grudge match. (more on that in my 40K topic)



I also helped out with a huge DUST 1947 game letting them borrow my allied army to boost their own models in a bit of a refresher game (again more detail coming to the DUST topic)



The final entry was the one game i actually got to fully play in-B5 wars star trek conversion-Klingon VS Romulan battle. (more details in the B5 wars topic)

League game vs orks. I had week ago played same scenario with very similar lists so we knew what to expect. I did manage to fix my mistakes in target priority though and getting 1st turn resulted in reversal of last game. 85-47 win.

Yes, unfortunately it is something championed by the tournament players for accurate movement......and it makes the table look terrible. i have a large collection of great looking ESLO hobby finished 3d terrain i got just for WM/H

The good news is that I think the upcoming edition (MKIV) is going to make 3D terrain more common, as it brings back elevation. Getting rid of elevation REALLY made it very easy for us to stick with 2D terrain, no matter how bad it looked.

Asmoridin wrote:

Yes, unfortunately it is something championed by the tournament players for accurate movement......and it makes the table look terrible. i have a large collection of great looking ESLO hobby finished 3d terrain i got just for WM/H

The good news is that I think the upcoming edition (MKIV) is going to make 3D terrain more common, as it brings back elevation. Getting rid of elevation REALLY made it very easy for us to stick with 2D terrain, no matter how bad it looked.

We never stopped using 3d terrain or elevation in our MK III games (all it does is give a +2 defense it is pretty easy to understand), however i think MKIV will make 2d terrain more common given how streamlining it makes it less impactful on the game. about the only thing not 2d i expect to see is some flat "hills" added.

Bit more of a game than last fyreslayer outing. I was being beaten by trio of bloodthirsters but scenario(turf war) gave me chance to win directly or at least maybe draw?

Bloodtihe hero phase charge made job lot harder(would have been autowin without). Forgefather needed to solo 3/4 wrathmonger to win but just 1.

Could still have had chance to draw but magmadroth father failed to kill bloodthirster failing battle tactic and then only way i can not lose is opponnnt literally giving win away. Regardless of dice rolls he wins by tie breaker bare minimum.

7 cast all foot ogors vs slaanesh. Powerfull ogor magic gave me punch i needed to trade msu efficiently. I trade ironguts for be'lakor any day especially when i can then get keeper next. I declined double r2 and didn't get double later which at least kept him in game but failing by 1 wound to kill ironguts failed bt leaving game 15-7 and he doesn't have enoqgh units to get vp gap closed.

Votann box (+ a few necromunda squats) vs a Drukhari coven.
The bearded ones were beaten resoundingly on VP AND tabled.

Game #1 this evening: 40k, Drukari vs GSC.
Victory went to the Drukari - though the Cult did some respectable damage.

Game #2 : Axis & Allies 1914
Teaching this version.
Humorous error in turn 2 when the French player opens a southern front by attacking Italy thinking they were a Central Power member (they were thinking of Italy as being an Axis member in WWII. But this is 1914!)
The Italian players response? "Well I wasn't your enemy, but ok we'll play it that way...."
Frances rash action greatly skewed the rest if the game, much to Russias detriment.
Still, much fun was had, so

But that is so something the French would do.



The game night at the matrix-

classic battletech










Infinity N4





Star Wars legion



Some 40K games of 9th








Games i was involved in-

Assisting in a training game of 5th ed necrons VS 5th ed grey knights-a tie game



A demo training game of 4th ed orks VS 5th ed space marines at 1,200 points-victory to the orks-

Two games of Dystopian Wars, the Russian Commonwealth winning vs Enlightened and the British Crown

More flying about! This time it is a game of V1 Aeronautica Imperialis from Forgeworld.



An Ork WAAAGH! Bomma closes in on an Imperial freighter filled with supplies.

You can read the full report on the blog, if you are interested:
http://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2022/10/battle-report-aeronautica-imperialis-v1.html

1st game of Kill Team v2 in about 18 months.
Both of us were extremely rusty....

My Orks vs Tau.
Pretty much the only real reason the orks won is because I'm a very aggressive player.
I grabbed a few early VP & simply took the fight to the Tau's side of the table. They were too busy not dying to go out & score.

ccs wrote:
1st game of Kill Team v2 in about 18 months.
Both of us were extremely rusty....

My Orks vs Tau.
Pretty much the only real reason the orks won is because I'm a very aggressive player.
I grabbed a few early VP & simply took the fight to the Tau's side of the table. They were too busy not dying to go out & score.

Pretty much how i won 40k daemon vs tau. Grabbed early lead by getting to objectives and keep him too busy to do actions, got tabled in 3 rounds, won by 2 vp.

Path to glory skaven vs nighthaunt. Verminlord was whiffing hard as usual and catapult couldn't score a hit but warpfire thrower, pair of rat ogors and plague furnace carrried the day. Even vermin lord warmed up in the end and killed 5 banshee...barely.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Does Warmahordes really use 2D terrain?

Not if I can help it and I'm thrilled to find the game plays significantly better with 3D terrain with the mk4 rules.

On that note, first fully painted game of mk4 last night!

Got a fairmy good game of Axis & Allies 1914 in this evening.
Rules were taught last week, rules errors made last week were corrected, & best of all no-one attacked their teammates this time....

The major downside (for the Allied powers) was that one of their players really isn't all that good (yet) at these types of games.
Thier eagerness to play outstrips thier skill - and sometimes logic.
And since we generally believe in letting people make thier own errors.....Well, some strange builds/moves can occur.

The Allies surrendered at the end of turn 4.
The Russians were knocked out by thier own revolution, France was being ground down, Italy was just fighting to survive, England was a virtual non-factor in Europe (concentrating on the Ottomans/trying to save Russia) & India was about to fall....
Oh. And the USA attacked Spain (a neutral worth a bunch of $). To be fair, they did this for the lulz since the decision to yield had already been made before they'd gotten thier turn.

1k Daemon vs genestealer cult. T3 was lethal with genestealers, broodlord and hybrids dying.

And another 1k game vs drukhari. Last one was closer but this one total slaughter. Tzeentch magic and 3 flamers brutal. Loc even had luxyry of opting not to smite archon to death and charge just for lolz.

2 small games of Battletech this evening:

Game #1 - late in the game my Hatchetman & Enforcer close in to finish off the enemy Hunchback.
Victory = me.

Game #2 - Early game, my Hatchetman & Griffon vs a Locust/Awesome team. On the moon!
Vacuum & low gravity rules were in effect.
This one did NOT go in my favor.
•About 7 turns in the Griffon lost the use of both legs due to them being breached in Vacuum.
•And then the Awesome punched the Hatchetman in the face, exposing the heads internal structure to the Vacuum.
:(

This is what 16+ hours at the game store look like....


It started early. the flames of war group came in at 11AM when the store opened and played until about 4PM












I arrived around 2PM (i closed up around 8AM), when table space became available i set up for pre-scheduled games ( more on that later).

First there was battletech.....there is always battletech.







Some 9th ed 40K



and something you don't see often....OGRE



Now on to stuff i was involved in-

A planned hovercraft themed light/medium battle with some heavy proxy work on the IS side.



A training game of infinity using 2 of my armies-



A 5th ed game of 40K



And a game i was supposed to play in but we didn't get enough time to do another round-warmachine MK III Cygnar VS menoth for game 1

A Tau incursion at a mining colony is intercepted by Blood Angels. The Marines have overrun the landing zone by turn 2 (as seen below), but Tau reinforcements are returning from patrol and approaching across the river.

Another game of Grimdark Future with my son. Hard to overstate how much I am loving this game.

Daemons vs dark angels. Their first turn was such a whiff that as i hadn't yet mentioned loc exalted or relic nor bloodthirster relic i dropped them to even odds. Still he couldn't kill either gd...

After r3 it was 50-28 plus 3 quarters for rnd but he has just couple heroes and　random marines and 4 dw knights in bad position. I'll be reaping grind down and reality rebels plus increase gap in primaries.