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There have been release-related community posts on mondays and even later They did not announce news for today

Yeah I've been checking every half hour or so. I'm hoping it's just a little late coming out. Of course, it could end up being about admech for all we know....

Edit: oh so that's confirmed no news today? Sad.

SilverAlien wrote:
Maybe the fact he looks like he's aiming makes the pose slightly more dynamic?

My thoughts exactly, and I will use the shooting pose if the kit will turn out to be impossible to magnetise in a practical way.


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SilverAlien wrote:
Yeah I've been checking every half hour or so. I'm hoping it's just a little late coming out. Of course, it could end up being about admech for all we know....

Edit: oh so that's confirmed no news today? Sad.

No, not confirmed. Just not announced or something like it. Maybe they plan to post about DG on monday

Warhams-77 wrote:
There have been release-related community posts on mondays and even later They did not announce news for today

The Warhammer TV team has been at the NoVA Open so content on Warhammer Community has been on the light side recently, but the preview looks like it's up now.

A new trailer is online: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSUqmyh8lQ

I like the comic style, but I would rather have seen new models. Also the apothecarie and the potion dude were explicitly shown.

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:
A new trailer is online: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSUqmyh8lQ

I like the comic style, but I would rather have seen new models. Also the apothecarie and the potion dude were explicitly shown.

...explicitly shown harvesting primaris geneseed...
I think that may be a small tidbit hinting to how GW will 'update' the chaos model range.

That comic style is so cheap. GW aren't even trying to hide they are not trying.[MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]

A little more info on Morty mainly it seems. He looks alright, I'm not super impressed. His auras are kinda... underwhelming. Reducing toughness doesn't really have the same impact as similar abilities last edition, the mortal wound thing isn't bad if you ram him into a bunch of elite enemies but kinda limited outside that. Of course it's entirely possible that his weapons make him an absolute beast in combat, I could easily see silence either having wound spill over or inflicting mortal wounds on high rolls, but just from the stat line he's nothing special.

So yeah, didn't see anything to get me excited in this. Well... He does have phosphex bombs which is neat.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/03/mortarion-and-the-death-guard-next-weekend/

Look at this:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/03/mortarion-and-the-death-guard-next-weekend/
We even get a preview of mortys rules. And he's 24 Might. well...

Oh right we did get a power cost. So that'd put him around 450-500 points roughly. That's... well silence better be absolutely amazing.

Notably more expensive than magnus, worse statline, worse aura, magnus has his improved psychic abilities vs DR and the mortal wound thing which is a wash honestly.

Well, at least I feel better knowing I won't probably won't feel compelled to buy his model just to make my army competitive. That's nice I guess?

SilverAlien wrote:
Oh right we did get a power cost. So that'd put him around 450-500 points roughly. That's... well silence better be absolutely amazing.

Im sure he will be pretty good even for his astronomical high point cost, I'm more worried about not being able to field anything else in the army if you take him. Death Guard units in general are already so expensive im not sure how you are supposed to field a 24 power model

Mortarion is considered a Lord of War choice and not a HQs. Honestly with his 3+ save I don't think he will survive long on the table.

broxus wrote:
Mortarion is considered a Lord of War choice and not a HQs. Honestly with his 3+ save I don't think he will survive long on the table.

3+ save, 4+ Invulnerable, and Disgustingly Resilient.

Alongside of 18 Wounds.

broxus wrote:
Mortarion is considered a Lord of War choice and not a HQs. Honestly with his 3+ save I don't think he will survive long on the table.

He's about as tanky as Magnus

broxus wrote:
Mortarion is considered a Lord of War choice and not a HQs. Honestly with his 3+ save I don't think he will survive long on the table.

Ah yes, like how Magnus is laughably weak. Oh wait...

 Horus Luperkermit wrote:

SilverAlien wrote:
Oh right we did get a power cost. So that'd put him around 450-500 points roughly. That's... well silence better be absolutely amazing.

Im sure he will be pretty good even for his astronomical high point cost, I'm more worried about not being able to field anything else in the army if you take him. Death Guard units in general are already so expensive im not sure how you are supposed to field a 24 power model

Im not sure why you would assume that? Unless his wargear is amazing he won't even be as good as Magnus judging from what we've seen, despite costing more. Even then he's a massive target with mediocre durability, slow, can't hide behind troops, and his only redeeming features are tied into being very close to the enemy/melee. Maybe he gets his little teleport ability from HH, that might help.

Honestly though, I really wouldn't be worried about how you'd fit him into your army list right now. I have a feeling it'll be a non issue.


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 Horus Luperkermit wrote:

broxus wrote:
Mortarion is considered a Lord of War choice and not a HQs. Honestly with his 3+ save I don't think he will survive long on the table.

He's about as tanky as Magnus

Also more expensive, slower base speed and can't use warp time, and less useful outside of melee due to no friendly aura and presumably weaker psychic powers.

I know we all want to be excited, but it's good to keep things in perspective. What they showed us was bad, getting excited right now is just begging to be disappointed later.

 Yodhrin wrote:
"Always epic in the scale and scope of its universe and imagery, today games of Warhammer 40,000 regularly see Primarchs bestriding the battlefield."

It's sad to see stuff like this presented as a positive thing, Primarchs don't leave much room on the battlefield for anyone else.

couldn't agree more. This page really reminded me how much I hate nu40K fluff. It's all about legendary heroes fighting mythical vilains, leaving no room for the common soldier or even supersoldier. Everything is epic now. Sure, these aspects were always present in 40k, but now it's been amped x10.

Thankfully, Necro is coming back, so I'll probably leave 40k for a while and go all in in Necromunda. Especially if they put various sects (chaos, genestealers) in the game

I did not defend Mortarion as a whole, I just defended his tankyness. And Im more disappointed in his point cost than excited about what weve seen so no worries Im keeping things in perspective.

SilverAlien wrote:
can't use warp time

Do we know for certain that Morty can't use Warptime?

 Horus Luperkermit wrote:
I did not defend Mortarion as a whole, I just defended his tankyness. And Im more disappointed in his point cost than excited about what weve seen so no worries Im keeping things in perspective.

Fair enough, I just thought the Magnus comparison was a good way of illustrating what seems to be wrong with him.

Brian888 wrote:
Do we know for certain that Morty can't use Warptime?

I mean... it's possible the DG gain access to the generic CSM psychic power table with some units like generic sorcerers, but morty almost certainly won't. It's also possible the DG unique psychic power table might get some generic CSM powers, but again not very likely.

So not only is it extremely unlikely for morty to have access, it's entirely possible we won't have any access to it without allies.

Brian888 wrote:

SilverAlien wrote:
can't use warp time

Do we know for certain that Morty can't use Warptime?

Put simply, no. We don't know what the Contagion Discipline spells will be yet.

It does not seem likely though.

Qlanth wrote:

Brian888 wrote:

SilverAlien wrote:
can't use warp time

Do we know for certain that Morty can't use Warptime?

Put simply, no. We don't know what the Contagion Discipline spells will be yet.

It does not seem likely though.

And even if he doesn't have access to it, what's to stop you taking a sorcerer from C:CSM?

Personally I think he's easily worth 24 power, if you consider something like a Wraithknight or a normal Knight is around that cost.

I do suspect that the nurglings mentioned in his profile will actually have a weapon entry and provide a bunch of weak attacks.

3+ Save, T7?

Missile Launchers, Lascannons, readyyyyy... aiiiiiimmmm...

I have to say there's still multiple elements about Mortarion I'm really not a fan of, but that official picture has helped soften my stance from "totally not a fan" to "it's alright."

About the access of Warp Time
The White Dwarf entry of Datacards: Death Guard said the set contains 7 psychic powers. So either the Contagion discipline will get additional spells (which i doubt) or DG will be able to use the vanilla CSM disciple

FudgeDumper wrote:
That comic style is so cheap. GW aren't even trying to hide they are not trying.[MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]

Uhm... they are trailers for a model release... not Guardians of the Galaxy 2.

Wonder if the nurglings attending him can tank attacks like tau drones.....