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 mrhappyface wrote:
FudgeDumper wrote:
These models reeks of a faint insecurity. Just like a predator can smell the andrenaline of its pray, the artisan can discern the ebb and flow of malign creativity. These models were not sculpted to take the mind on an adventure, nor were they sculpted to impress or to be remembered.

Look at famous sculptors of the past, such as Michelangelo. You can see no doubt and no fear in his strokes. If you put every micro millimeter of his statues surfaces under a microscope I doubt you would find a single mark that would indicate anything else then splendor. Yet these models are scars in their entire selves upon the standars our ancestors have set.

When I look at these models, instead of being enraptured by the story they are supposed to deliver, I am overtaken by the fear of their creator that they exude. These models are not sculpted by joy or intuition, but by deadlines and directives. Sculptures that was never once touched by its sculptors, like children grown in test tubes.

The only consistent thing about humanity is our decline.

Jesus Christ, you must be the life of the party!


With a name like FudgeDumper, I can only imagine this is some kind of satirical comment. That or this dude needs some love in his life
   
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WC also seems to confirm Feculent Gnarlmaw for 40K:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/31/the-seventh-day-of-nurgle-the-feculent-gnarlmawgw-homepage-post-3/
   
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 mrhappyface wrote:
FudgeDumper wrote:
These models reeks of a faint insecurity. Just like a predator can smell the andrenaline of its pray, the artisan can discern the ebb and flow of malign creativity. These models were not sculpted to take the mind on an adventure, nor were they sculpted to impress or to be remembered.

Look at famous sculptors of the past, such as Michelangelo. You can see no doubt and no fear in his strokes. If you put every micro millimeter of his statues surfaces under a microscope I doubt you would find a single mark that would indicate anything else then splendor. Yet these models are scars in their entire selves upon the standars our ancestors have set.

When I look at these models, instead of being enraptured by the story they are supposed to deliver, I am overtaken by the fear of their creator that they exude. These models are not sculpted by joy or intuition, but by deadlines and directives. Sculptures that was never once touched by its sculptors, like children grown in test tubes.

The only consistent thing about humanity is our decline.

Jesus Christ, you must be the life of the party!


That's quite "a bit" too philosophical and way too extreme to compare Michelangelo's timeless masterpieces to GW's miniatures but I agree with him on these miniatures having
very little or no character. That's because of the material use and software sculpting. If you see a miniature sculpted freehand from greenstuff you'll see the difference.
   
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Check his posting history. FD is just here to troll. Don't engage with it.

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 Modock wrote:
 mrhappyface wrote:
FudgeDumper wrote:
These models reeks of a faint insecurity. Just like a predator can smell the andrenaline of its pray, the artisan can discern the ebb and flow of malign creativity. These models were not sculpted to take the mind on an adventure, nor were they sculpted to impress or to be remembered.

Look at famous sculptors of the past, such as Michelangelo. You can see no doubt and no fear in his strokes. If you put every micro millimeter of his statues surfaces under a microscope I doubt you would find a single mark that would indicate anything else then splendor. Yet these models are scars in their entire selves upon the standars our ancestors have set.

When I look at these models, instead of being enraptured by the story they are supposed to deliver, I am overtaken by the fear of their creator that they exude. These models are not sculpted by joy or intuition, but by deadlines and directives. Sculptures that was never once touched by its sculptors, like children grown in test tubes.

The only consistent thing about humanity is our decline.

Jesus Christ, you must be the life of the party!


That's quite "a bit" too philosophical and way too extreme to compare Michelangelo's timeless masterpieces to GW's miniatures but I agree with him on these miniatures having
very little or no character. That's because of the material use and software sculpting. If you see a miniature sculpted freehand from greenstuff you'll see the difference.


‘Character’ isn’t tied to a material or sculpting method, it’s entirely down to the sculptor. And it’s also completely subjective. A lot of people say Malifauxs metal models had more character than the plastics, but they just look naff to me.
   
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Oh nice, snail brozinski can summon those trees

I'm even more keen to chuck him into my 40k army
   
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"No character", yet one of the most contentious models of the release is the Bilepiper which is practically oozing with it. Okay.

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Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.


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 Sidstyler wrote:
"No character", yet one of the most contentious models of the release is the Bilepiper which is practically oozing with it. Okay.

You dont understand. If they dont sculpt them from clay with their bare hands they lack love and spirit.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Its easier to just say "its a troll" and move on then to engage in the matter at hand. That's why we are in this predicament to begin with, because no one cares about anything anymore. GW, amongst other big companies, have understood this and is severely reducing the quality of its products and you are still frothing at the mouth for new releases. You might as well directly link your bank accounts to Games Workshop.

Subjectively these models can be the most wonderful creations beheld by mankind. Objectively they are mounds of offal.

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And they have to mix the clay themselves! None of that heartless, store-bought

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 Tiberius501 wrote:
Oh nice, snail brozinski can summon those trees

I'm even more keen to chuck him into my 40k army

The snail can be used in 40k?

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The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f***ing what." - Stephen Fry
 
   
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FudgeDumper wrote:
You might as well directly link your bank accounts to Games Workshop.



Is that a service they're offering now? Sweet! Gonna save me so much time!

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FudgeDumper wrote:
Its easier to just say "its a troll" and move on then to engage in the matter at hand. That's why we are in this predicament to begin with, because no one cares about anything anymore. GW, amongst other big companies, have understood this and is severely reducing the quality of its products and you are still frothing at the mouth for new releases. You might as well directly link your bank accounts to Games Workshop.

Subjectively these models can be the most wonderful creations beheld by mankind. Objectively they are mounds of offal.


Well, yeah, they objectively are mounds of offal. That’s Nurgle for you.
   
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 mrhappyface wrote:
 Tiberius501 wrote:
Oh nice, snail brozinski can summon those trees

I'm even more keen to chuck him into my 40k army

The snail can be used in 40k?


The snail in conjunction with its special character rider (Horticrux) can with the new daemon codex.

Are there any other snails besides that one?

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I'm glad they're making the snail plaguebearer a 40k fixture. With his ability to make these trees crop up he may be quite and interesting strategic choice; allowing you to catapult your horde right into the front line on turn 2.

I'm contemplating getting a citadel wood and making my own cheaper version of this.

Alternately a set of these can look proper nurgly.

Spoiler:


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TiamatRoar wrote:
 mrhappyface wrote:
 Tiberius501 wrote:
Oh nice, snail brozinski can summon those trees

I'm even more keen to chuck him into my 40k army

The snail can be used in 40k?


The snail in conjunction with its special character rider (Horticrux) can with the new daemon codex.

Are there any other snails besides that one?

No, I just didn't see that it could be used in 40k. Link?

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f***ing what." - Stephen Fry
 
   
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FudgeDumper wrote:
Its easier to just say "its a troll"


Yes it is.

Because you're a troll.

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I don't get the whole "if it's jolly looking it's not scary". That's just lacking imagination. I see the hilarity of Nurgle being like somebody made the Joker from Dark Knight a god.

Imagine you are a regular guardsman. The sky is blacked out and choked with flies, you've got a horde of rotting, laughing, cavorting daemons advancing towards you, they're shrugging off 1 in 3 shots and laughing about it, they stink and are oozing alsorts.....and they are laughing. The sheer wrongness of it is where the horror comes in and with the right paintscheme these models will convey that.

Really looking forward to the GUO , I was close to getting the forgeworld one at the upcoming open day but this is genuinely better and cheaper, especially once I get it at 25% preorder discount online

Only minor annoyance could be if they don't put the rules in the box for the cross compatible stuff as I'm not buying the new codex daemons just to use the GUO with Deathguard when the other daemons are in the DG codex. At worst I'll use him as Corbax Utterblight from the Forgeworld Chaos Index as I figure he's an indication of where the rules for the GUO will be - enchanced disgustingly resilient combined with high toughness, slime attacks and bonus attacks.


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on the forum. Obviously

Oh I get it. His name is Horticulous Slimex and he plants trees while riding a snail.

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If you really want to freak someone out, laugh while you stab them (god, I hope no one ever brings that up out of context).

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 mrhappyface wrote:
TiamatRoar wrote:
 mrhappyface wrote:
 Tiberius501 wrote:
Oh nice, snail brozinski can summon those trees

I'm even more keen to chuck him into my 40k army

The snail can be used in 40k?


The snail in conjunction with its special character rider (Horticrux) can with the new daemon codex.

Are there any other snails besides that one?

No, I just didn't see that it could be used in 40k. Link?


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/28/faction-focus-chaos-daemons/

The 2nd paragraph after the Locus of Nurgle rules picture.


"Nurgle armies are particularly well-served by the new codex thanks to a host of new units, from new Heralds to the debut of Horticulous Slimux in the 41st Millennium"


(the snail rider is Horticulous Slimux)

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oh FudgeDumper, I've grown to genuinely love your posts mate...the sheer rose-sniffing elitism of it all is quite delicious to read

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TiamatRoar wrote:


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/28/faction-focus-chaos-daemons/

The 2nd paragraph after the Locus of Nurgle rules picture.


"Nurgle armies are particularly well-served by the new codex thanks to a host of new units, from new Heralds to the debut of Horticulous Slimux in the 41st Millennium"


(the snail rider is Horticulous Slimux)

Well thank god the Nurgle herald has a faster way of traversing the battlefield now.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f***ing what." - Stephen Fry
 
   
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Apologies to the mods if such posts aren't permitted. Just delete this post. Cheers.

'Maggotkin of Nurgle' Facebook group up and running in time for the new releases. Join for chatter about the new releases and battletome.

facebook.com/groups/140870663267190/
   
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A laughing villain is a cliché that can only be enjoyed by an infantile mind. And the Joker is the most impotent villain ever created and anyone who likes him have obviously not delved far into the depths of depravity. The moment a villain opens the mouth and a laughter emerges all his credibility is lost because the notion that something so lost would even think about laughing is based in a notion created by men sitting at a desk scribbling comics. No matter how jolly you are, if you have fallen so far as to be a servant of an evil god the depravities you have committed will totally have obliterated the neural pathways used for laughter.

And thanks ZoBo but I'm not trying to be elitist. Yes I used to troll a lot but that has stopped

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It's not elitist.

Just like how Gerald Broflovski posting reviews on Yelp isn't elitist.



 
   
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Pats pockets looking for "Not sure if serious" meme. I think you'll find much, much earlier instances of "crazed laughter as an indicator of madness and despair" than comic books. Poe comes to mind, as does Lovecraft. Or, say, Gothic literature in general. Don't let me ruin your emo-Goth LARPing ,moment though. Back to the topic at hand...

The jolly, carivale-esque, aspect of Nurgle has been around since GWs early days. Complaints about said aspect are like 25 years too late. Personally, I think it adds a lot to Nurgle and helps keep the various Chaos factions feeling more separate and distinct.

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FudgeDumper wrote:
A laughing villain is a cliché that can only be enjoyed by an infantile mind. And the Joker is the most impotent villain ever created and anyone who likes him have obviously not delved far into the depths of depravity. The moment a villain opens the mouth and a laughter emerges all his credibility is lost because the notion that something so lost would even think about laughing is based in a notion created by men sitting at a desk scribbling comics. No matter how jolly you are, if you have fallen so far as to be a servant of an evil god the depravities you have committed will totally have obliterated the neural pathways used for laughter.

And thanks ZoBo but I'm not trying to be elitist. Yes I used to troll a lot but that has stopped


Nurgle followers don't have neural pathways for anything. They feel no pain. They laugh anyways because that is the will of Nurgle.

http://nurgle.stelio.net/book_BC07.php

"Counting, harvesting, experimenting, reaping, consuming, rotting, laughing - all are important to Nurgle, and his beloved children are eager to please their Plaguefather."

"Grandfather Nurgle is often moved to reach out to a wayward follower in such a position. The warrior hears the kindly laughter of his master on the cosmic winds and pursues the joyful noise."

"Grandfather Nurgle and his chosen servants will have the last laugh."

"The bloated Daemon-thing that confronted him within that necrotic bubo laughed at the weakened Captain's plight"



Feel free to press CNTRL+F and type in "Laugh" in any Great Unclean One's wiki article, too.
   
 
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