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2017/08/05 15:56:17
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Yeah. The Chaos Boon specifically sais that the models are free even in Matched Play. You are incorrect about this, Kirasu.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/08/05 16:04:41
 Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2017/08/05 15:57:45
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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The Chaos Boon stratagem says at the bottom that replacing the slain model with either a spawn or a prince doesn't cost reinforcement points.
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2017/08/05 16:05:14
Subject: Re:Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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 warboss wrote: Kirasu wrote:
Virtually every csm codex after 3.5 is a missed opportunity. It's as if they have no ideas for the main protagonist of the setting.
I disagree. Chaos players overall on dakka are consistently the most half glass empty group despite consistently getting new models and updates in 6th/7th. There are big upsides (Legion rules finally after over a decade! not sure if this is new but in 5th they got generic demons and now have proper cult specific demons!) but a slew of new model releases isn't one of them. That said... there are at least new plague marine models as well as more new plague stuff coming soon that we know of.
If you don't play the right cult most of your models are old. The rules in 8th seem to be lesser copys of SM in many cases and CSM were old as dirt codexs that got stuff at the tail end of 7th. Many chaos miss the days of being a top army
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 2000  6000 with Reaver Titan  guard 2k
 2500 (imperial force)
 2500 (trimming down in 8th)
TS 30k at 5k points
Yes I have a problem
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2017/08/05 16:07:10
Subject: Re:Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Plus, Fabius Bile in the mission to do some Primaris Chaos Marines boys!
Source: https://www.lavozdehorus.com/fabius-bilis-objetivo-marines-primaris-del-caos/ (And the new CSM codex obviously)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/08/05 16:07:31
Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2017/08/05 16:17:00
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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And no one was surprised...lol.
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2017/08/05 16:22:15
Subject: Re:Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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 Galas wrote:Plus, Fabius Bile in the mission to do some Primaris Chaos Marines boys!
Holy 
Nice find!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/08/05 16:23:02
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2017/08/05 16:34:23
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Anyone else notice that the aspiring sorc for rubrics no longer has a cost listed? If rubrics start paying the same for the sorc as every other member of the squad, it'd be a 15 point discount.
Between this and the point breaks on noise and plague marine (plus new options for the latter) things are looking fairly good for cult units overall.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/08/05 16:34:55
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2017/08/05 16:37:21
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Has someone not leaked the points page yet? That leaked before the Codex preview with the Space Marine Codex.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
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2017/08/05 16:42:52
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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 mrhappyface wrote:Has someone not leaked the points page yet? That leaked before the Codex preview with the Space Marine Codex.
I'd love this too. I want to see what all my Plague Marine weapon costs are
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2017/08/05 16:53:01
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Are Death Guard getting their own Codex?
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2017/08/05 16:57:41
Subject: Re:Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Galas wrote:Plus, Fabius Bile in the mission to do some Primaris Chaos Marines boys!
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2017/08/05 17:04:18
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Been Around the Block
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Point breakdown on miniwargaming review. Lots of down.
Bikers- 25pts (-6 pts per model)
Cultist- 4 pts (-1 pt)
Lord in termi-105 pts
Pred-90 pts
Vindi-135 pts
Defiler-152 (60ish pt decrease)
Lord of Skulls-365 (100 pts less)
Maulerfiend-140 (9pts less)
Mutliators-50 pts
Noise Marines-15 pts (1 per guy)
Plagues-19 pts (2 per model)
Warpsmith-45 pts(-33 pts)
Abbadon-240 (-13 pts)
Kharne-160 (-13 pts)
Bloodletters/Daemonettes-7 pts (-2 per model)
Horrors-
Blue no change
brimstone-3 pts (+1)
plagues-7 pts (-1)
Weapons:
Baleflamer-30 pts (-30 pts)
Blastmaster-20 pts (-8)
Hades AC-25 (-8 pts)
Reaper-15 pts (-3 pts)
Soulreaper-15 pts (-5 pts)
Melee:
Daemonic axe-10 pts (-35 pts)
Helforged sword-10 pts (-35 pts)
L claws-8/12 (-1 pt)
plague sword-1 pt (-2 pts)
power fist-12 pts (-8 pts)
That is all the point changes.
Found here.
https://youtu.be/wQa-to_os94
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2017/08/05 17:05:08
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Yes. Quite soon, even.
Thousand Sons are likely to get one eventually, too.
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
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2017/08/05 17:07:44
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Did GW even need to tell us that Fabulous Bill wanted to do experimentation with primaris marines?
In other new, Urien Rakarth of the prophets of Flesh coven would ALSO like to express his interest in primaris subjects for his own set of experiments... lol
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2017/08/05 17:10:07
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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So Brimstones are up in price a 50%. I don't know if thats enough but... is something.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2017/08/05 17:12:34
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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Thank god for that.
Mazzyx wrote:
Daemonic axe-10 pts (-35 pts)
Helforged sword-10 pts (-35 pts)
And thank Zeus for that!
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Sisters of Battle: 5495pts
Imperial Agents: 500pts
Tyranids: 5195pts
Khorne Daemons: 3015pts
Gloomspite Gitz: 8490pts
Skaven: 6170pts
Blades of Khorne Daemons: 3980pts
Destruction Mercenaries: 480pts |
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2017/08/05 17:16:22
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Still no cost for Exalted Champion though, wonder if he'll be the same or more expensive than the Leuitenents...
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
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2017/08/05 17:19:02
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yes. Quite soon, even.
Thousand Sons are likely to get one eventually, too.
Ooo goody. I think I'll hold off then. I like the idea of a Nurgle footslogging horde army with plague marines, hordes of pox walkers, Forgeworld Renegade Cultists and a handful of tanks. Are footslogging Nurgle armies fun in the new edition with their resilience?
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2017/08/05 17:19:16
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'd still rather have had Plague Marines stay at the same cost and get a Pistol and extra attack. Still mildly butthurt about it.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
 jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
 vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
 MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
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2017/08/05 17:19:38
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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mrhappyface wrote:Still no cost for Exalted Champion though, wonder if he'll be the same or more expensive than the Leuitenents...
He's 79 Points
https://youtu.be/W069dPLTXg0?t=2282
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2017/08/05 17:21:23
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Terrifying Doombull
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Mr_Rose wrote:
Yes. Quite soon, even.
Thousand Sons are likely to get one eventually, too.
I'd be willing to say that TS are one of the 10 being rushed out before the end of the year. No models, simple background reprint of the stuff that came out last year, minor update on their doings during the last century.
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2017/08/05 17:22:02
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Didn't see that quick flash the first time I watched that, thanks. Also, it's 70pts not 79pts.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
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2017/08/05 17:42:36
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Central Valley, California
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I wonder how much the Noise Marine sonic weapons cost in points now...
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~ Shrap
Rolling 1's for five and a half decades.
AoS * Konflikt '47 * Conquest Last Argument of Kings * Trench Crusade * Horus Heresy * The Old World * Armoured Clash |
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2017/08/05 17:48:19
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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What are the new tactical objectives? We get 6 CSM specific ones apparently.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
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2017/08/05 17:50:55
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Been Around the Block
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No change. So 19 pts for a NM with a sonic plaster. The Blastmaster dropped 8 pts though. Its cheaper than a ML/lascannon now.
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2017/08/05 18:02:07
Subject: Re:Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Aint even mad about Fabius, like good excuse to make new upscaled normal CSM, wasn't there a retailer that said the standard CSM were getting updated?
Besides who can blame him, if your job is to make stuff, if you see new stuff not like your old stuff, you're gonna wanna steal that stuff to make new stuff!
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Fury from faith
Faith in fury
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2017/08/05 18:06:06
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Looking at the points page rubrics get the aspiring for the same price as regular rubric or am I missing something
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2000 6000 with Reaver Titan guard 2k
2500 (imperial force)
2500 (trimming down in 8th)
TS 30k at 5k points
Yes I have a problem
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2017/08/05 18:11:59
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: Mr_Rose wrote:
Yes. Quite soon, even.
Thousand Sons are likely to get one eventually, too.
Ooo goody. I think I'll hold off then. I like the idea of a Nurgle footslogging horde army with plague marines, hordes of pox walkers, Forgeworld Renegade Cultists and a handful of tanks. Are footslogging Nurgle armies fun in the new edition with their resilience?
I've had mixed results, but my overall opinion is, they still aren't quite resilient enough to foot slog, which is unfortunate as their fluff is all about marching armies of marines behind hordes of pox walkers. But maybe with the points reductions, we may also see some changes in the Pox Walker points costs, to be able to take more of them. The more of them we can have the better, as they generally grab attention away from the marines. It's also a lot more viable to footslog them using the Blightbringer, as he acts (to a certain extent) like a transport for everyone within an aura.
We may also get some nifty stratagems, psykic powers and/or abilities that revolve around helping them move up the table with some more defence or speed when our full codex drops
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2017/08/05 18:15:42
Subject: Re:Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker
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 unmercifulconker wrote:Aint even mad about Fabius, like good excuse to make new upscaled normal CSM, wasn't there a retailer that said the standard CSM were getting updated?
Besides who can blame him, if your job is to make stuff, if you see new stuff not like your old stuff, you're gonna wanna steal that stuff to make new stuff!
Could that random double eagle skull icon that appeared on WarCom yesterday maybe relate to traitor primaris? Ones that Bile has managed to create
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2017/08/05 18:20:23
Subject: Re:Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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No wolves on Fenris wrote: unmercifulconker wrote:Aint even mad about Fabius, like good excuse to make new upscaled normal CSM, wasn't there a retailer that said the standard CSM were getting updated?
Besides who can blame him, if your job is to make stuff, if you see new stuff not like your old stuff, you're gonna wanna steal that stuff to make new stuff!
Could that random double eagle skull icon that appeared on WarCom yesterday maybe relate to traitor primaris? Ones that Bile has managed to create
Link?
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
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