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2017/08/04 21:28:41
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Alpha Legion Warlord Trait is beautifull. To play it the correct way you need to go with a printed list to your opponent and a printed paper where it specifies that you are actually playing Alpha Legion.
Your army must be painted another colour, and you don't reveal your Legion untill he kill your warlord!
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2017/08/04 21:42:41
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
SilverAlien wrote: Alpha legion WLT is fluffy but kinda meh. Kinda sad we aren't seeing a way to upgrade characters like the chapter master stratagem. That's one that would've helped a lot for anyone not playing black legion.
That's not all the strategems I think, there's still hope.
Ghorros wrote: The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote: All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
2017/08/04 22:12:16
Subject: Re:Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2017/08/04 22:13:11
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2017/08/04 23:04:37
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Looks like they changed the order of previews. Word Bearers tomorrow perhaps?
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2017/08/04 23:05:04
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
To explain, The material has been evolving with each edition, along with the backstory, as the editions continue, the timeline has finally moved forward to the present 41+ point.
The way in which it has been handled in the new edition is pretty good. And for someone who developed a genuine hate on for GW, it is hard to admit.
Of course, I'm not going to go out thee and jump on the Space Marine bandwagon, but I did pick up a snack box of those Poxwalkers, and am watching the trade page here for the Death Guard.
Hate to say it, but it is going to be a little more reserved in this iteration, as I continue to play more Skirmish level, and RPG development of an army, as they grow on the tabletop.
As of now, Nu 40K is beginning with Hieronymus Harkonnen in 40K form, followed by a gaglegak of cultists, and the Hand of the Allfather, a nurgle champion that I've had modeled up for the occasion, back in the day, and Sprite, a chaos Spawn that decided to show up after one of the early games I played with The crew.
As a new concept of playing, I get more enjoyment in developing the army from the ground up in a "What if this was going on in the RPG universe."
Additionally, I am going to be working on the representations for the RPG characters for Black Crusade, which I hope to be able to get in on a local group and get the game started up in the shop. With the evolution of the skirmish game, it makes it easy to get the RPG/ tabletop relationship going a little better then it worked in the past.
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2017/08/04 23:36:50
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
So, is it safe to assume we wont be seeing any new CSM models with the codex since this would be RIGHT NOW? I've been shelving my IW for a few years waiting for a model upgrade before buying termies and now I guess I could dust them off and finish the force. No termies seem to be incoming.
2017/08/04 23:44:16
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
matphat wrote: So, is it safe to assume we wont be seeing any new CSM models with the codex since this would be RIGHT NOW? I've been shelving my IW for a few years waiting for a model upgrade before buying termies and now I guess I could dust them off and finish the force. No termies seem to be incoming.
I expect more chaos incoming, if GW does what they always do with 40K edition releases.
Last edition, IIRC, it was Khorn. lots and lots of skull covered Khorn. THIS time it will be the snotty legions. everyone else will be intermixed in there.
If you go by that as a guidepost, You are probably going to see a fat release around the holidays.
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2017/08/04 23:44:58
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Cult troops allowed in Undivided legions would give me the right excuse to keep using the old metal Plague Marines on my Night Lords army that i have so many of! My own headcannon fluff has been a combined campaign of those two legions due to the fact that their Primarchs kinda didnt hate eachother.
Then I just use the superior Plague Marines for Death Guard tm
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2017/08/05 00:01:49
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Nightlord1987 wrote: Cult troops allowed in Undivided legions would give me the right excuse to keep using the old metal Plague Marines on my Night Lords army that i have so many of! My own headcannon fluff has been a combined campaign of those two legions due to the fact that their Primarchs kinda didnt hate eachother.
Then I just use the superior Plague Marines for Death Guard tm
That sounds about right, and when the time cones, just mix them in with the other squads. Different sized figures seems to be the goal that GW is attempting.
At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money.
2017/08/05 00:14:19
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Nightlord1987 wrote: Cult troops allowed in Undivided legions would give me the right excuse to keep using the old metal Plague Marines on my Night Lords army that i have so many of! My own headcannon fluff has been a combined campaign of those two legions due to the fact that their Primarchs kinda didnt hate eachother.
Then I just use the superior Plague Marines for Death Guard tm
That sounds about right, and when the time cones, just mix them in with the other squads. Different sized figures seems to be the goal that GW is attempting.
I have an amazing Guard army of GI Joes if that is the case! And He Man daemon princes! With Transformer daemon engines.
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Help me, Rhonda. HA!
2017/08/05 00:31:24
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Nightlord1987 wrote: Cult troops allowed in Undivided legions would give me the right excuse to keep using the old metal Plague Marines on my Night Lords army that i have so many of! My own headcannon fluff has been a combined campaign of those two legions due to the fact that their Primarchs kinda didnt hate eachother.
Then I just use the superior Plague Marines for Death Guard tm
That sounds about right, and when the time cones, just mix them in with the other squads. Different sized figures seems to be the goal that GW is attempting.
I have an amazing Guard army of GI Joes if that is the case! And He Man daemon princes! With Transformer daemon engines.
I take it that you haven't seen Guliman in the flesh, yet?
You honestly have missed a great chance to be snarky with the irony of your own post.
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2017/08/05 00:33:04
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money.
2017/08/05 01:38:44
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Just watched most of the linked video. The youtuber comments about not seeing any new models either in picture or stat form (excluding models obviously brought over from the demon codex).
I saw that normal chaos marines can exchange their boltguns for chainswords but I didn't see an option to have all three. I couldn't make out what the chosen had though in that regard.
I have to say that the Time of Ending and now this CSM codex really are a missed opportunity for GW to come out with a new kickass Abaddon model. I know they kinda sorta came out with one in 4th with the chaos lord in that you can effectively make a plastic abby but a bigger, new model would have been appreciated.
2017/08/05 01:48:03
Subject: Re:Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Virtually every csm codex after 3.5 is a missed opportunity. It's as if they have no ideas for the main protagonist of the setting.
I disagree. Chaos players overall on dakka are consistently the most half glass empty group despite consistently getting new models and updates in 6th/7th. There are big upsides (Legion rules finally after over a decade! not sure if this is new but in 5th they got generic demons and now have proper cult specific demons!) but a slew of new model releases isn't one of them. That said... there are at least new plague marine models as well as more new plague stuff coming soon that we know of.
2017/08/05 02:06:16
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Slaanesh daemon prince with duel talons and intoxicating elixir seems really good 8 strength 8 attacks at -2ap 2 damage is ridiculously choppy, then give it the +1 wound and 6+ FNP warlord trait and then give it the 5+ feel no pain psychic power to get an absolute beastly duelist with 9 wounds. Alternatively you could go all in on the attacking and give it the emperor's children warlord trait or the +1 attack warlord trait.
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2017/08/05 02:14:54
Subject: Codex: Chaos Space Marines (Preorder: August 5th / Release: August 12th)
Actually excited to see the attempt at making the Word Bearers article enticing.
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
~3000 (Fully Painted)
Coming Soon!
Renegades - 
5000
Who knows? 