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Then why in the world would you say such a thing? Some of those models are from the 90s so obviously there is no such thing as "`wait their turn".

 Kirasu wrote:
Then why in the world would you say such a thing? Some of those models are from the 90s so obviously there is no such thing as "`wait their turn".

Because, if you actually read what he wrote, he wanted certain things, obviously from a personal point of view but things others (like myself) would want to see, but at the expense of some of the Nurgle releases. It also plain pees me off and has done over the years, when people just moan about what THEY want. "I want MOAR things for MY army, I dont care about anyone else"
Like damn spoiled children

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Then why in the world would you say such a thing? Some of those models are from the 90s so obviously there is no such thing as "`wait their turn".

Because, if you actually read what he wrote, he wanted certain things, obviously from a personal point of view but things others (like myself) would want to see, but at the expense of some of the Nurgle releases. It also plain pees me off and has done over the years, when people just moan about what THEY want. "I want MOAR things for MY army, I dont care about anyone else"
Like damn spoiled children

I'm wondering...are there any other SBG players in this thread reading these complaints and thinking..."Wow, 40K players in general are really whiney and self entitled".

You guys think you have it bad?

(disclaimer: I have been both a 40K and a LOTR/Hobbit SBG player, and though I don't play either of them currently I hope to play both games again in future. I like both games and always have).

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Then why in the world would you say such a thing? Some of those models are from the 90s so obviously there is no such thing as "`wait their turn".

Because, if you actually read what he wrote, he wanted certain things, obviously from a personal point of view but things others (like myself) would want to see, but at the expense of some of the Nurgle releases. It also plain pees me off and has done over the years, when people just moan about what THEY want. "I want MOAR things for MY army, I dont care about anyone else"
Like damn spoiled children

I'm wondering...are there any other SBG players in this thread reading these complaints and thinking..."Wow, 40K players in general are really whiney and self entitled".

You guys think you have it bad?

(disclaimer: I have been both a 40K and a LOTR/Hobbit SBG player, and though I don't play either of them currently I hope to play both games again in future. I like both games and always have).

Not just 40k but WFB as well back in the day. Its less the communities as a whole but a number of people who really are just plain selfish. The amount of releases games workshop has made over the last 5-10 years is staggering (including one off box games), and a lot of the more recent things have been models people have been waiting many years for. Weve seen GSC who pre-dated 2nd ed and AM who havent really had many releases at all (barring tech priests etc in Guard forces) being made into full armies. There will be releases of the units mentioned for Chaos, im pretty much certain of it. Nurgle/DG havent really had anything barring Typhus and some plastic metal hybrid deathguard for quite a while (im excluding daemons because theyve all had stuff in the last decade or so). I collect Chaos and would love to see plastic noise marines, new zerkers to replace my old ones and go with the new kharn, as well as Abaddon to lead them with a glorious new model befitting of his importance in the CSM background (just like Archaon in WFB/AoS). I wouldn't however begrudge another army, especially DG of releases

I'm getting some cheese for this thread as drink seems to be supplied in ample amounts.

Skullhammer wrote:
I'm getting some cheese for this thread as drink seems to be supplied in ample amounts.

Hope there's enough salt going around for your cheese.

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Because, if you actually read what he wrote, he wanted certain things, obviously from a personal point of view but things others (like myself) would want to see, but at the expense of some of the Nurgle releases. It also plain pees me off and has done over the years, when people just moan about what THEY want. "I want MOAR things for MY army, I dont care about anyone else"
Like damn spoiled children

You may want to look up the release dates for the latest nurgle stuff. You got fairly ...fresh... toys. But as soon as someone wants something else they are egotistical? Last time I checked nurgle was allowed to use havocs and obliterators so you would actually get something too. Please rethink your attitude. This is a hobby for all of us, not just me not just you. Thank you and have a nice day.

Are cypher and the fallen listed in the book?

 combatcotton wrote:

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Because, if you actually read what he wrote, he wanted certain things, obviously from a personal point of view but things others (like myself) would want to see, but at the expense of some of the Nurgle releases. It also plain pees me off and has done over the years, when people just moan about what THEY want. "I want MOAR things for MY army, I dont care about anyone else"
Like damn spoiled children

You may want to look up the release dates for the latest nurgle stuff. You got fairly ...fresh... toys. But as soon as someone wants something else they are egotistical? Last time I checked nurgle was allowed to use havocs and obliterators so you would actually get something too. Please rethink your attitude. This is a hobby for all of us, not just me not just you. Thank you and have a nice day.

Please tell me, aside from the daemons (because all gods have had them) and the older nurgle havocs, typhus and hybrid plastic kits, what have deathguard/nurgle had? YOU said youd like to have seen Abaddon, new zerkers et al

"An Abaddon for starters.
And Obliterators, Noice Marines, Zerkerz, Havocs, ...

If that means less for the stinking spiky marines so be it."


'If that means less for the stimking spiky mariness so be it.....'


Im not talking about possibly shared units like Obilterators or havocs, you said that Nurgle should get less units in place of those that you mentioned. Im not putting words in your mouth and ive never said the hobby is all about me. I dot have an attitude, im merely pointing out your sense of entitlement to the detriment of Deathguard/Nurgle collecters/gamers Just be honest about it. Id love to see the units you mentioned in new plastic sets too, but I wouldnt want to see less new DG


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 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Are cypher and the fallen listed in the book?

Yeah they are, it was mentioned on the Warhammer community news. You can also take them in a detachment and not lose its benefits (having all khorne etc) or something along those lines

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:

Please tell me, aside from the daemons (because all gods have had them) and the older nurgle havocs, typhus and hybrid plastic kits, what have deathguard/nurgle had? YOU said youd like to have seen Abaddon, new zerkers et al

Ok, so there was nothing in the latest base game?

'If that means less for the stimking spiky mariness so be it.....'

Yes some deficits are more severe than others. Again please except that nurgle has gotten its toys in the less distant past and is therefor of lower priority under the assumption that we want each faction and unit to be supported somewhat equally. If you don't give a damn about others then yeah of course they can wait. How long is fine for you?

 dan2026 wrote:
What more do you want?

Did you ever consider that maybe he doesn't care about Nurgle, or that there are a lot of people who choose not to have Death Guard armies, or that we're waiting on plastic Havocs/Oblits and/or a new CSM kit?

So, what more do we want? Plenty!

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Some people just need to wait for their turn

Chaos just had their turn. Did you miss it?

 combatcotton wrote:

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:

Please tell me, aside from the daemons (because all gods have had them) and the older nurgle havocs, typhus and hybrid plastic kits, what have deathguard/nurgle had? YOU said youd like to have seen Abaddon, new zerkers et al

Ok, so there was nothing in the latest base game?

'If that means less for the stimking spiky mariness so be it.....'

Yes some deficits are more severe than others. Again please except that nurgle has gotten its toys in the less distant past and is therefor of lower priority under the assumption that we want each faction and unit to be supported somewhat equally. If you don't give a damn about others then yeah of course they can wait. How long is fine for you?

Dont try and turn it around and pretend to be everyone elses 'hero'. It wont be long before the rest of chaos gets new stuff. The core game is this 'round' of nurgle and 'generic' chaos was lat ed Deathguard have literally just got some love in the form of the core box set, and will be having a codex release and supporting units soon. You specifically said that youd like to see other units in place of nurgle releases. Each faction/god will be supported. There is only so much GW can release at a time. Wait. Your. Turn

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
What more do you want?

Did you ever consider that maybe he doesn't care about Nurgle, or that there are a lot of people who choose not to have Death Guard armies, or that we're waiting on plastic Havocs/Oblits and/or a new CSM kit?

So, what more do we want? Plenty!

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Some people just need to wait for their turn

Chaos just had their turn. Did you miss it?

It's kind of like if Space Wolves got a release and then everyone shouted at Blood Angels players for complaining they didn't get a new release.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Some people just need to wait for their turn

Chaos just had their turn. Did you miss it?

Seriously. Call me crazy, but I think it's reasonable that you be able to build every army's core without going to hugely outdated models. Would it be nice for iconic but niche things like special characters and elites choices to stay current? Yeah. But I think priority should really be having staples up to date, so CSM can get contemporary marines and cultist command and weapons that aren't from a previous edition's starter box; eldar can have melee guardians that aren't five-edition-old conversion bits; sisters of battle can have any substantive release in like 6 editions (seriously, a GK-style SOB unit with a few extra weapon options could cover just about everything but seraphim and repentia easily).

Instead, plague marines, which already have pretty good resin kits and FW kits, are for some reason bumped to the top of the list.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
What more do you want?

Did you ever consider that maybe he doesn't care about Nurgle, or that there are a lot of people who choose not to have Death Guard armies, or that we're waiting on plastic Havocs/Oblits and/or a new CSM kit?

So, what more do we want? Plenty!

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Some people just need to wait for their turn

Chaos just had their turn. Did you miss it?

No, hes taslking about not getting new zerkers, oblits, havocs and noise marines. Theyll all come, its just that DG/nurgle is getting some love and some people are just too impatient. I say this as a collector of all the different gods, having just recently got the DI box set and added the DG to my forces, not having owned amy nurgle affiliated stuff before. Im genuinely happy that the DG are seeing some love and looking forwardto all the other upcoming chaos stuff

Is there anything preventing me from using primaris marines as fallen?

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Is there anything preventing me from using primaris marines as fallen?

not at all, ive seen a few conversions online where people have done just that and they look great

Awesome. Codex purchased and project in place!

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Is there anything preventing me from using primaris marines as fallen?

Taste?

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
What more do you want?

Did you ever consider that maybe he doesn't care about Nurgle, or that there are a lot of people who choose not to have Death Guard armies, or that we're waiting on plastic Havocs/Oblits and/or a new CSM kit?

So, what more do we want? Plenty!

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Some people just need to wait for their turn

Chaos just had their turn. Did you miss it?

No, hes taslking about not getting new zerkers, oblits, havocs and noise marines. Theyll all come, its just that DG/nurgle is getting some love and some people are just too impatient. I say this as a collector of all the different gods, having just recently got the DI box set and added the DG to my forces, not having owned amy nurgle affiliated stuff before. Im genuinely happy that the DG are seeing some love and looking forwardto all the other upcoming chaos stuff

I think complaining about not getting an update of one of the cult troops already IN PLASTIC when GW instead is updating cult troops that where in resin before is just silly. I'm mroe of a Khorne guy then a Emps children guy, but lemme tell you I HOPE we see plastic noise marines before we see plastic bezerkers. this isn't to say I'd not mind updated bezerkers but we at least have a plastic option for them

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Is there anything preventing me from using primaris marines as fallen?

Nope. Go for it I'm converting true-scale Emperor's Children from them. Oh its gonna be sweet....

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Some people just need to wait for their turn

Chaos just had their turn. Did you miss it?

Emperor's Children and World Eaters haven't. I imagine that is when Noise Marines and Berzerkers will be updated.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Some people just need to wait for their turn

Chaos just had their turn. Did you miss it?

Emperor's Children and World Eaters haven't. I imagine that is when Noise Marines and Berzerkers will be updated.

Both of those could be the basis of interesting Warzones- Emperor's Children/Slaanesh paired with various Eldar as a themed release, and World Eaters with Angron vs IG and Orks on Armageddon IV

By the time the rest of chaos gets its turn I will have spent my gaming budget on 3rd party bits and have what I want. And have no need for their product. Also by that time space marines will have had several chapters revamped and a whole new codex worth of brand new units. I feel like gw is oversaturating the vanilla marine market.

macluvin wrote:
By the time the rest of chaos gets its turn I will have spent my gaming budget on 3rd party bits and have what I want. And have no need for their product. Also by that time space marines will have had several chapters revamped and a whole new codex worth of brand new units. I feel like gw is oversaturating the vanilla marine market.

Huh? We did get Primaris marines, but we also recently got Thousand Sons and soon Death Guard, each with troops, elites, chaff, characters, and a primarch. Add some daemon models from the Tzeentch release as well.

macluvin wrote:
They would make so much more money if they just stopped with the limited editiion crap…

Considering ;they usually sell out of them, they're sometimes more than double the price, and they have minimal difference in cost, I don't understand your thinking at all.

That's what I had to do. A family member of mine gave me a $50.00 GW voucher so I bought some sonic weapons but practically all of my noisey boys are custom or kit-bashed. I am also in the middle of building a sonic Dreadnought using the Emperor's Children contemptor Dreadnought and a volkite weapon. But I wish there was an easier option to build EC because those resin pieces are a bother to work with. Maybe a sprue of speakers to mount on everything would be nice for EC because I can hardly find anything like that even with 3rd party bits. I just want my dudes to look cool, is that so wrong?

this is not a complaint, more an observation.

Hasnt chaos Waited there turn, for the last 15 years? i mean, i know space marines are the big seller, but they have had what... 5 tactical squad kits now?

Only if you count from the very beginning. RT, 2nd ed Metal, 2nd ed Plastic, 3rd ed, and 6th.

Chaos has had the 2nd ed Metals, 3rd ed plastic, and 5th? plastic.

Four, I think. the original 3rd ed kit, the recut 4th ed one with updated command sprue, the 6th ed one and now Intercessors.

Versus one 3rd ed Chaos Marine kit with a recut in 4th in 5th.