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Better to wait and get a better product. I think we have quite the abundance of examples these days.

I just wish they had less PR miscommunications.

Lack of description of difference between Wave 2 and Wave 3 card packs, big miscommunication about the contents of the new companion (lore *and* rules, it would seem), them very clearly stating March 3rd and then rolling it back (through Vanguards on Discord, and without an official public statement!)

Then there's things like the Centaur Avatara, which had a typo in their statline which was not corrected nor was a non-discord post made about it until the models actually hit shelves, which was overall extremely weird and moderately shady.

Maybe they'd be better to wait and make better public statements

Not going to disagree there. It's a problem that crops up in the rules too--there are items, updates, even whole special rules that are mechanically broken due to the wording.

Indeed. The playtesters and a few of the vanguards are very good at sending that information up to Leandros as well which is how a lot of those do get resolved.

I don't understand the policy and characteristics of Dweghom Ardents and the reason for the discord between Ardents and Tempered.
Tempered use fire magic and also Ardents have Flame Berserkers.

It's philosophical differences. Tempered are about tempering their emotions/fire magic, Ardent about expressing them wildly, basically.

Old Dominion Strategos Preview Edition

Why is he on Mars?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Why is he on Mars?

Mars?


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Sasorijap wrote:
Old Dominion Strategos Preview Edition

That would have been perfect for a D&D character I wanted to make... A yuan-ti cleric.

Old Dominion Praetorians and Legionnaires

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Why is he on Mars?

6 Year old me wants to say "Because Uranus was taken"

I assume it's because of the red ground, looks like blood drenched soil to me.

And preorders for the Slaves of Hazlia are up
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/303-old-dominion-archimandrite.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/limited-series/302-old-dominion-strategos-limited-preview-edition.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/301-old-dominion-xiliarch.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/300-old-dominion-moroi.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/299-old-dominion-kheres.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/accessories/298-old-dominion-army-support-pack.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/297-the-old-dominion-legionnaires-dual-kit.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/296-the-old-dominion-praetorian-guard.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/304-old-dominion-one-player-starter-set.html

 Theophony wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Why is he on Mars?

6 Year old me wants to say "Because Uranus was taken"

I assume it's because of the red ground, looks like blood drenched soil to me.

Aye, that's probably what it's meant to be, it just reminds me too much of how GW bases their AdMech.


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 Shadow Walker wrote:
And preorders for the Slaves of Hazlia are up
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/303-old-dominion-archimandrite.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/limited-series/302-old-dominion-strategos-limited-preview-edition.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/301-old-dominion-xiliarch.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/300-old-dominion-moroi.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/299-old-dominion-kheres.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/accessories/298-old-dominion-army-support-pack.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/297-the-old-dominion-legionnaires-dual-kit.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/296-the-old-dominion-praetorian-guard.html
https://store.para-bellum.com/the-old-dominion/304-old-dominion-one-player-starter-set.html

Huh, weren't the characters supposed to be plastic?

Their characters have up to this point always been resin.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Huh, weren't the characters supposed to be plastic?

They were. Probably some unthinking copy paste by whoever is doing entries on their site.

 Theophony wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Why is he on Mars?

6 Year old me wants to say "Because Uranus was taken"

I assume it's because of the red ground, looks like blood drenched soil to me.

Ah. Red soil is pretty common including in apparently Greece according to this article (and not listed also parts of North America as well).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_soil

 auticus wrote:
Their characters have up to this point always been resin.

Plastic sprues were shown for OD characters

The Strategos main release is supposed to be plastic.

But I thought the Archimandrite was supposed to be plastic, too.

Rihgu wrote:


But I thought the Archimandrite was supposed to be plastic, too.

His plastic sprue was shown.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 auticus wrote:
Their characters have up to this point always been resin.

Plastic sprues were shown for OD characters

Neat. We'll see how that goes

Ah. Red soil is pretty common including in apparently Greece according to this article (and not listed also parts of North America as well).

Kentucky soil is red. If anyone here has any military background and trained on tanks in Ft Knox you will be familiar with the red mud all over the tanks.

Rihgu wrote:
The Strategos main release is supposed to be plastic.

But I thought the Archimandrite was supposed to be plastic, too.

Yeah, from the preview the Chilliarch, the Archimandrite, the Strategos and the Hierodeacon were all supposed to be plastic

Webstore is wrong for Archimandrite and Xhilliarch according to vanguard in the discord. Might also be wrong for the limited time Strategos, too? unclear from the statement made.

 warboss wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Why is he on Mars?

6 Year old me wants to say "Because Uranus was taken"

I assume it's because of the red ground, looks like blood drenched soil to me.

Ah. Red soil is pretty common including in apparently Greece according to this article (and not listed also parts of North America as well).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_soil

Plus the surface of Mars isn't actually red anyways


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Cool models, thank goodness for plastic and they definitely took advantage of that to do appropriately thin boney bits. Those shields are thick as all hell though.

 warboss wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Why is he on Mars?

6 Year old me wants to say "Because Uranus was taken"

I assume it's because of the red ground, looks like blood drenched soil to me.

Ah. Red soil is pretty common including in apparently Greece according to this article (and not listed also parts of North America as well).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_soil

Well that's quite a fun and thematic way to base them, then.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:


Well that's quite a fun and thematic way to base them, then.

Indeed! I wasn't aware that it was also present specifically in Greece (as it is by me in the US) but I imagine (given the location/heritage of the company) that they probably were.

Moroi and Kheres's pictures are monochrome.
Para Bellum don't have any time or they think these are official ghosts color?

I wish they had sprue pictures up, tbh.

Sasorijap wrote:
Old Dominion Praetorians and Legionnaires

Oh I like their armor. Not sure I like the green effect on them, although I understand that they were going for the tarnished bronze look.
If that's what the Not-Romans look like I can't wait to see the Not-Greeks.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I can't wait to see the Not-Greeks.

A year of waiting unless they will change their release method of 1 new army per year.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I can't wait to see the Not-Greeks.

A year of waiting unless they will change their release method of 1 new army per year.

Wait, that's their release schedule? At 18 armies? That doesn't seem feasible :/
That means what, 12 years of waiting until we can see the whole range? Too bad if you're holding out for the Not-Chinese I guess.
I'm just saying, they'll get a lot more interest if they released bits of all of the factions quickly and fleshed them out over time, to pull in potential customers who are either holding out for another army or aren't interested in what they have so far.
They already showed their hand with the 18 faction comment, might as well go with it.