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Xcom 2 War of the Chosen gave up on me. Ironman/Commander. Final level that took a long time to get too. Doing well so far and then it crashes a lot. As the game had been going on crashes and freezes were becoming more frequent. Anyways half way through the final level the game refused to move to a next turn. The over watch hang bug, or a turn hang bug, or simple crashes would always prevent me from going on. I tried all sorts of fixes and nothing worked.

After that I uninstalled X-Com 2 and am never going back. A game expansion that could have been my expansion of the year and turned X-Com 2 into my RTS of the year and one of the best of all time ruined. I had fun on the way true, but the whole point of ironman is to beat it as a challenge which I can't do.

X-Com 2 WOTC is now dead to me.

The battle of Tallarn and battle of Armageddon computer games. The game was so tactically inflexible.

I am shocked. I have never seen a forum have so much people gaking on the witcher 3 in one place. I think this forum is the collected mass of about 99% of the witcher haters out there or something lol.

I don't care you don't like it, not everyone likes everything. It's just the only time I've seen so many in one place is all.

Destiny, and the SW battlefront reboot a year or couple years back. No point in playing those...

 Gamgee wrote:
. A game expansion that could have been my expansion of the year and turned X-Com 2 into my RTS of the year and one of the best of all time ruined.

Huh. Undocumented feature of the expansion, or just a bug?

 Gamgee wrote:
I am shocked. I have never seen a forum have so much people gaking on the witcher 3 in one place. I think this forum is the collected mass of about 99% of the witcher haters out there or something lol.

I don't care you don't like it, not everyone likes everything. It's just the only time I've seen so many in one place is all.

It's a good game, I just find the glitches annoy the hell out of me.

Like sometimes I'll start a race in the void and then die, or mid conversation the person I'm talking with will walk away, the music is all over the place, and there is a delay between sound and combat. It just feels like a buggy mess to me. Not sure if I'm just really unlucky but it really annoys me.

Voss wrote:
It isn't at all that he's unemotional, it's that he's emotional about the wrong (or random) things, and doesn't express it in a relatable way. He's got too many obsessions and too much baggage, all of which are inadequately explained and suddenly pulled out at the drop of a hat.
For me personally, the problem is the game is designed to provoke reactions out of Geralt, who has a very limited set of responses. But it prioritizes Geralt over the player- its a personal story about people I don't know, don't care about, and as it goes on, don't actually like as people. Which is a huge turnoff.

I guess the more I played the more I could relate to Geralt and prefer the fact it prioritises the character in the game over the character the player invents in their head.

I can understand the "pulled out at the drop of a hat" thing, but mainly in the sense there were a lot of situations where I felt there was background knowledge Geralt had that I didn't.

I still much prefer it over a make-your-own-character game though, I think that genre is way over rated. Though maybe this forum with it's high percentage of folks who play real life RPG's is biased the other way.


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 Gamgee wrote:
I am shocked. I have never seen a forum have so much people gaking on the witcher 3 in one place. I think this forum is the collected mass of about 99% of the witcher haters out there or something lol.

I don't care you don't like it, not everyone likes everything. It's just the only time I've seen so many in one place is all.

It's a good game, I just find the glitches annoy the hell out of me.

Like sometimes I'll start a race in the void and then die, or mid conversation the person I'm talking with will walk away, the music is all over the place, and there is a delay between sound and combat. It just feels like a buggy mess to me. Not sure if I'm just really unlucky but it really annoys me.

Sounds like you were unlucky. I played the game for 170 hours and didn't experience anyone walking away, problematic music or any delay between sound and combat. In that whole time I came across maybe 1 or 2 bugs. Unless you count Roach appearing where you can't reach or ride him a bug, but at this point I consider that a design feature rather than a bug

I am shocked. I have never seen a forum have so much people gaking on the witcher 3 in one place. I think this forum is the collected mass of about 99% of the witcher haters out there or something lol.

Haha me too!
Having said that you can put me in the category of also having given up on it!
I'll get back to it at some stage probably.....

 Gamgee wrote:
I am shocked. I have never seen a forum have so much people gaking on the witcher 3 in one place. I think this forum is the collected mass of about 99% of the witcher haters out there or something lol.

I don't care you don't like it, not everyone likes everything. It's just the only time I've seen so many in one place is all.

For my part the game simply did not catch my intrest, I found most of the characthers absolute unintresting and the game did not offer any real challenges at any point in the game. That and the countless erradans you need to run

 Trondheim wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I am shocked. I have never seen a forum have so much people gaking on the witcher 3 in one place. I think this forum is the collected mass of about 99% of the witcher haters out there or something lol.

I don't care you don't like it, not everyone likes everything. It's just the only time I've seen so many in one place is all.

For my part the game simply did not catch my intrest, I found most of the characthers absolute unintresting and the game did not offer any real challenges at any point in the game. That and the countless erradans you need to run

Did you turn on the setting that scales quests and monsters up to your level if you outlevel them?

Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines.
Not the game persee, but one of the missions. Now anyone whom has played it before will know immediately which mission I am talking about, and they will be correct.
The Graveyard mission.

For those that have not played the game, VTM:Bloodlines is a game where one plays as a Vampire in the old WoD setting. The game is actually pretty fun despite being somewhat limited in its options (few places to explore, no real physical character customisation, etc) and makes for a fun RPG, as well as introduction to the WoD setting. There are issues here and there (if you build you Vampire wrong you will have a hard time) and some enemies are extremely powerful and/or difficult, as well as one or two obscure sidequests needing to be activated before you complete certain main quests or you end up being unable to complete them, or the Sewer Quest that is for all intents and purposes a nightmare crawl through hell where everything can and will kill you and you had better be a stealth or combat build and have good equipment, or else have fun.

However nothing is as bad as the Graveyard Quest.
This is a very sidequest, infamous amongst the players, that is known for being virtually impossible to complete. Put simply you have to take over the job of guarding a graveyard for the usual guard whilst he goes and enjoys some hookers. All you have to do is ensure that nothing gets out. Simple right, I mean even a mortal ghoul (a human who is in the service of a powerful Vampire) can do it with no issues. Your a super strong super tough super powerful vampire with all these cool special abilities, it should be easy right? Just beat the undead brainless and make sure the massive, tough, super strong gates do not break. Not a problem.
It is by far the worst quest on that game.
Initially the zombie spawns are easy to counter, and you can run to the bottom gate, bash any undead near it, run to the top gate and do the same then rinse and repeat, but as the timer counts down the zombie spawns increase and it takes longer and longer to clear them from the gates. Furthermore if a zombie catches you then it can grab you and try to eat your BRAAAAIIINNNS! which, whilst not too much of a physical issue, essentially immobilises your character for several seconds which allows the zombies to build up, and because zombies spawn throughout the graveyard you have to be careful to avoid being bitten as you travel between the gates.
Initially it seems doable, and even up to the last minute seems difficult but not impossible, but in the last 30 seconds the spawns multiply by something stupid, and no matter how hard you try it is impossible to keep both gates clear. One invariably falls and the quest is failed.

So far there have been two confirmed solutions. The first is to take a class with Celerity and max out that plus your CC skills, get a fireaxe and as many bloodpacks as you can carry then attack one group, pop celerity and run to the other gate, clear that and repeat. Every time celerity wears off pop it again and keep your blood topped up with bloodpacks. It is costly and difficult and questionable in its efficiency and reliability.
The other is to take a good shooting class, max out your firearms skill (thus voiding a good chunk of the rewards) and wait until lategame. Grab a sniperrifle and platform up some tombs and onto the wall between the two gates, then pop the zombies off from this position. This is actually more of an exploit as it takes Mario levels of platforming to get up and the wall was clearly never intended to be accessible.
Some people have made videos of themselves doing it in other ways, but these are rare and never replicable.

In all honesty it is one of the worst mission within the game, and even with the unofficial patch proved to be virtually impossible without the correct build, even if the HP of the gates was vastly increased. Nothing, and I mean nothing, was as bad as this in the entire rest of the game. Not one thing.

Mass Effect: Andromeda. Don't get me wrong. I love Mass Effect. I've played Mass Effect 1-3 as a series binge at least 3-4 times. It's not that I make different choices either because I make the same choices or very slightly different dialogue choices. I just love the experience. The shooting, the atmosphere, the characters, the story. All of it is great. My favorite RPG series of all time. I own all the story DLC because I wanted more. But Andromeda? On the surface it's a good 3rd person shooter game. Something just felt... off. Like, I wasn't finding myself immersed or engaged. I found the characters just... not interesting and the story took forever to get started. But that would've been fine if it felt like it was all leading up to something. Or if the plot hooked me. I don't know. It just felt very bland and uninspired.

Like, when you start Mass Effect 1 you get an intro that introduces several main characters, the main bad guys and has some really good voice acting. You have Keith David and Seth Green giving great performances with tight writing. With 2 you get an atmospheric as hell cut scene with the Illusive Man voiced by none other than Martin Sheen. The lighting is great and the main villains are introduced in a very powerful and impactful way. If you played all the way through Mass Effect 1 basically your home, the Normandy, gets destroyed. Your character dies. Three begins with earth being destroyed by the Reapers and one of the most famous pieces of music in the trilogy's history. Andromeda? It starts off with some narrator talking about some thing before you have to spend minutes walking around a boring space station with voice actors who just don't leave as much of an impact. Sure, the villains are also introduced but the Kett just don't leave much an impression either. The Reapers were ominous. The Collectors were mysterious. The Kett? Just some aliens with guns.

This is all subjective and I'm sure some will disagree with me. But this is a big part of the reason why I gave up on ME:A.

Dragon Age 2, Dragon Inquisition I dropped the games because of their control schemes and how to play them. i also dropped overwatch, hearthstone, and diablo 3 once I realized "These are just wasting my time."

I have stopped playing hearthstone and I've never been more happier.

Skyrim and Fall Out 4 yeah I put 200 hours into both of them but.... After the first two months of play. I got every mod to make it more difficult more fun, more interesting items, but I realized there was nothing really there for me as a gamer, plus once you kind of explored the whole map there really is nothing left to do another than the pointless radiant or story quests that were incredibly boring and poorly written. (Sorry ES Fans). I would just go back and play the witcher 3 instead.

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Trondheim wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I am shocked. I have never seen a forum have so much people gaking on the witcher 3 in one place. I think this forum is the collected mass of about 99% of the witcher haters out there or something lol.

I don't care you don't like it, not everyone likes everything. It's just the only time I've seen so many in one place is all.

For my part the game simply did not catch my intrest, I found most of the characthers absolute unintresting and the game did not offer any real challenges at any point in the game. That and the countless erradans you need to run

Did you turn on the setting that scales quests and monsters up to your level if you outlevel them?

Yes I did that quite early on so that I would hopefully avoid this problem, sadly it did not work out.


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Mass Effect: Andromeda. Don't get me wrong. I love Mass Effect. I've played Mass Effect 1-3 as a series binge at least 3-4 times. It's not that I make different choices either because I make the same choices or very slightly different dialogue choices. I just love the experience. The shooting, the atmosphere, the characters, the story. All of it is great. My favorite RPG series of all time. I own all the story DLC because I wanted more. But Andromeda? On the surface it's a good 3rd person shooter game. Something just felt... off. Like, I wasn't finding myself immersed or engaged. I found the characters just... not interesting and the story took forever to get started. But that would've been fine if it felt like it was all leading up to something. Or if the plot hooked me. I don't know. It just felt very bland and uninspired.

Like, when you start Mass Effect 1 you get an intro that introduces several main characters, the main bad guys and has some really good voice acting. You have Keith David and Seth Green giving great performances with tight writing. With 2 you get an atmospheric as hell cut scene with the Illusive Man voiced by none other than Martin Sheen. The lighting is great and the main villains are introduced in a very powerful and impactful way. If you played all the way through Mass Effect 1 basically your home, the Normandy, gets destroyed. Your character dies. Three begins with earth being destroyed by the Reapers and one of the most famous pieces of music in the trilogy's history. Andromeda? It starts off with some narrator talking about some thing before you have to spend minutes walking around a boring space station with voice actors who just don't leave as much of an impact. Sure, the villains are also introduced but the Kett just don't leave much an impression either. The Reapers were ominous. The Collectors were mysterious. The Kett? Just some aliens with guns.

This is all subjective and I'm sure some will disagree with me. But this is a big part of the reason why I gave up on ME:A.

I wholeheartly agree with you on that game, ME A just felt like a sloppy DLC of some sort, they also failed to build up the tension and feeling of danger you got in the older ME games

Im not surprised by all the Dark Souls hate. I gave up on that game 2 weeks after the first one came out. But about 2 years or so ago I started watching lore videos and once I could see the stories explained, I fell back in love with the series and it is close to becoming one of my most played games. For those who hated it, try watching anything by TheAshenHollow, VaatiVidya, or TheDemodcracy on youtube. Of course we all have different tastes and I would never say "You're a scrub and L2play the game pleb". But maybe what worked for me will work for you.

Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one who feels this way about The Witcher 3. I just could never get into it and I don't know why. In fact, a friend of mine and I are going to sit down together and play the game on 2 separate TV's to see if we can push each other to get past whatever hump is stopping us from playing it.

I also gave up on Overwatch, Battlefield 1, and the metro series. Though I have never been a big FPS player so that may have a lot to do with it.

I've never finished or even come close to finishing pillars of eternity, despite actually really liking it. It's a problem i have with any rpg where you can create your character: i enjoy the character creation too much so i keep making new ones and never getting far into the game.

I had the same problem with the first dragon age game for a long whille

 Boyofdestiny205 wrote:
Im not surprised by all the Dark Souls hate. I gave up on that game 2 weeks after the first one came out. But about 2 years or so ago I started watching lore videos and once I could see the stories explained, I fell back in love with the series and it is close to becoming one of my most played games. For those who hated it, try watching anything by TheAshenHollow, VaatiVidya, or TheDemodcracy on youtube. Of course we all have different tastes and I would never say "You're a scrub and L2play the game pleb". But maybe what worked for me will work for you.

Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one who feels this way about The Witcher 3. I just could never get into it and I don't know why. In fact, a friend of mine and I are going to sit down together and play the game on 2 separate TV's to see if we can push each other to get past whatever hump is stopping us from playing it.

To be honest, that's why I wish DS wasn't so bastard hard. I love the look of the world, the aesthetic, the way they hide fascinating lore away all over the place. I see DS3's world and I wish I could just go off an explore that and find its secrets and stories like you can in Skyrim or DA Inquisition or Witcher 3, but instead you have to be so focused on the gameplay that it can become hard to focus on the background.

As much as I've been getting on with it a bit better recently, Witcher 3 for me has the opposite problem; I love the combat mechanics, I love exploring the worldspace, but I just feel those things transposed into any other setting would be even more appealing... Heck, give me Witcher 3 combat and exploration in Dark Souls 3's worldscape and aesthetic and I'm basically in heaven... Murdery gothic grimdark heaven, but at least one I might last longer than 5 minutes it...


Getting back to the topic, and also continuing the theme of great games I just couldn't get on with, Red Dead Redemption. Beautiful game, top-quality voice acting and script, stunning soundtrack, the ultimate Western movie experience in game form... and yet I could never get past the first chunk of the first act. I think my problem came down to it being a massive, great-looking open world but not one that encouraging Skyriming about to explore it; instead, it's a game built around the story and the missions, and I just found myself wanting more to do in the world (hopefully RDR2 will add something like that).

One day I'll go back and finish it, as it is a wonderful game that deserves to be completed, but I just need to keep myself focused on moving the story along, normally in open world games I'll be off side-questing as soon as I can and forget the main plot for hours at a time, and RDR doesn't really want you to do that.

I'm quite the darksouls fan and find the games difficulty intresting. I fell in love with deamon souls and have always been happy to take another trip into the bleak world of dark souls. though every itteration seems to have more cathedrals, which bugs me a little. Give me more over the top fantasy settings, not just big castles. I find the frustrating difficulty a perfect ingame paralell to what the main character (you) are going through and what the undead curse even means. Why continue fighting at all?

As for my own game I gave up on I have to say battle brothers. I absolutely love it but lategame just grindnig for renown so that I can end the game with a slightly flashier screenshot feels... Well, grindy. I just ended it itself, deciding not to complete the whole thing. Still highly recomend it to anyone, it's definetly worth it's price.

@Trondheim off topic but recently dusted off and played fall from heaven 2. I must commend you on your avatar.

 Trondheim wrote:

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Trondheim wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I am shocked. I have never seen a forum have so much people gaking on the witcher 3 in one place. I think this forum is the collected mass of about 99% of the witcher haters out there or something lol.

I don't care you don't like it, not everyone likes everything. It's just the only time I've seen so many in one place is all.

For my part the game simply did not catch my intrest, I found most of the characthers absolute unintresting and the game did not offer any real challenges at any point in the game. That and the countless erradans you need to run

Did you turn on the setting that scales quests and monsters up to your level if you outlevel them?

Yes I did that quite early on so that I would hopefully avoid this problem, sadly it did not work out.

Cool, were you aware that there was a bug in certain points of the game where you would have to turn that feature off or you could not possibly progress past the quest, because it raised the difficulty too high?

It does seem like the games that seem to get dropped or on an awfully long hold seem to be series games.

- Witcher 3... I loved the series, 1st game was amazing. This one, I really do not know what to say other than it felt boring, less depth, interface was getting a bit on the irritating side. Sorry to add myself to the "disproportionate haterz" here.
- Space Pirates vs Zombies 2: Really liked the first one, it was a surprise to me. #2 is just... a bit of a mess.
- Mass Effect Andromeda: Started off thinking it takes time to ease into it. All I can say is the prior companions to your character are brutal contrast to the ones in this game: a decided lack of character it feels. A bit of a pause, think a little, maybe get back into it.
- DragonAge Inquisitor - Burnout? High expectations? Not sure. Kinda weak to me. I look back at what I list here and wonder what went wrong with them or me.
- Just Cause 3: Trying hard again. Good game by most counts. This one prompted me to make the switch away from AMD for video cards. Put it down... intend to play, but not feeling a strong pull to it.
- Templar Battleforce: Like playing our beloved Space Marines! They worked terribly hard on this game and is cool. It just appears as a strong grind. They just miss that mark of trying to get emotional investment in your developed models/characters.

Non-sequel game:
- Frozen Synapse: Really wanted to like it. Understood it. Had some challenge to it. Lost interest.

I almost feel I have to list all the games I have and would play again to not come across as someone who just cannot be made happy.
I have gamed since I was a kid for decades and find fun in multiple forms of media.
I am at a loss of why some of these games fall out of favor.

Main things I think that "kill" a game.
- Glitchy, stutter, locks up, high system demands all equal: broken immersion.
- Ease of save or at least some reasonable recorded checkpoint: nothing worse than messing up bad or a brownout and losing an hour of play OR heaven forbid a game update that makes prior saves unusable.
- Clunky interface. Had to put up with it for years in the dark ages of gameplay. It has been proven that the user does not have to work around a garbage user interface.
- Story, clever things, surprise, beauty, attention to detail, Easter eggs... keep something of interest happening other than proving how skillfully a player can mash controller buttons.

I am sure there is more that people can add.
I find for sequels the author feels obligated to bring something new to the table.
They really have to keep in mind what worked for that last game and what could make it so much better with those changes: not change for change sake.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Mass Effect: Andromeda. Don't get me wrong. I love Mass Effect. I've played Mass Effect 1-3 as a series binge at least 3-4 times. It's not that I make different choices either because I make the same choices or very slightly different dialogue choices. I just love the experience. The shooting, the atmosphere, the characters, the story. All of it is great. My favorite RPG series of all time. I own all the story DLC because I wanted more. But Andromeda? On the surface it's a good 3rd person shooter game. Something just felt... off. Like, I wasn't finding myself immersed or engaged. I found the characters just... not interesting and the story took forever to get started. But that would've been fine if it felt like it was all leading up to something. Or if the plot hooked me. I don't know. It just felt very bland and uninspired.

I can understand that--MEA introduces a lot of new mechanics, and takes its sweet time introducing them (though I found ME1 to be much harder to get into, myself). But once everything was in place, and I found out what the kett's deal was, I was hooked. But I can understand how the delays in getting to the "roam around, understand what's going on and use all your options" stage could put someone off.

Speaking of that very thing, I'm having the same issue with Dragon Age Inquisition. I love the premise of the game and I really want to find out how it ends, but I got up to the Empress plot, and just found myself worn out by the endless sidequests (I know I could skip them, but I got paranoid after nearly missing out on a companion), the subsystems for customising gear / your pad / the horse that you never use because you need to keep getting off to obliterate random bandits or pick shrubs, and endlessly running round my companions to check if new dialogue has opened up. When the Orlais plot introduced yet another subsystem I wasn't going to use for your reputation, I think that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Star Wars Galaxies.

The Combat Upgrade, the Jedi Village, then the NGE.

You would find your groove in the game and they'd essentially delete the game and make it a new one.

The Holycon boxes sucked also; before they came out no one knew how to become a jedi so everyone just did their own thing. Holycon boxes let everyone know that becoming a Jedi was just a massive skill grind, so everyone dropped their funs and started grinding a bunch of skills they weren't interested just so they could perhaps one day reroll as a jedi.

You just couldn't trust the game to be what it was for any length of time.

God of War: Ascension.

A superfluous game from the outset, but I love the series and have played through all of the others to completion, some multiple times, so I was really looking forward to this one. I was a little worried when they announced Ascension by first showing off the multiplayer - y'know, in the single-player only franchise - and took forever to show us the actual game. Even so, what was there looked fun and brutal, so it should be good right?

The problem was, it all felt so pointless. At one point I was stuck in a small village area and had to fight an Elephant man ogre thing. I killed it, and immediately had to fight another. No context was ever given as to why I was fighting a massive anthropomorphic Elephant. For long stretches of the game you were alone, and Kratos was given virtually no dialogue - even in cut scenes - which just made the game feel so quiet and empty.

The final straw was during one section when I was exploring a level, looking in every nook and cranny for secrets, hidden chests and whatnot, and found myself on a new screen where I knew I'd find something good. Stepped out onto a walkway and it instantly fell away and I died. No warning. No way to stop it. I was just punished with an unavoidable death simply because I was exploring the level, something you always did in all the other games.

I dropped my controller, turned the game off, and have never gone back to it.

Voss wrote:
X-com 2... Partly the timers...

This is exactly the reason I've yet to buy X-Com 2. An X-Com game where I can't take my time in missions? No thanks. Not the game I want.




Oh, and Witcher 3 is a fething masterpiece.

Banjo kazooie nuts and bolts (yes the one everyone hates)

dragon age inquistion. I made it through the first couple parts, then reached the part where a grand ball is coming up. Now grind, son! Grind like a mofo and you might get enough levels to be able to finish it! I had enough grinding.

I watched the ending on youtube. Aside from being uninspiring, the boss fight took like 30 mins. Needless to say, after that i skipped mass effect andromeda and it doesn't look like i'll be going back to bioware at this point.

 Torga_DW wrote:
dragon age inquistion. I made it through the first couple parts, then reached the part where a grand ball is coming up. Now grind, son! Grind like a mofo and you might get enough levels to be able to finish it! I had enough grinding.

I watched the ending on youtube. Aside from being uninspiring, the boss fight took like 30 mins. Needless to say, after that i skipped mass effect andromeda and it doesn't look like i'll be going back to bioware at this point.

I gave up on that game as well. But it was mostly because I lost a lot of my saved data. I liked the game well enough, mostly because of the setting.

I tried to start over again but I couldn't figure out the right race/class and the whole thing where you can simulate the save from the first two games. Just way too much going on there and it is frustrating.

This may seem like an odd one, but way back when, I gave up on the game Frogger Beyond. I gak you not, for sounding very kiddy that is one seriously hard game, or was to me when I used to play it. I got up to one of the boss levels (the underground one) and just could not beat it no matter how hard I tried. I'd kind of like to go back and try again just to see if with my more mature knowledge and perhaps better hand-eye coordination I could perhaps figure out how to win that level, but I don't think I'll get the chance now.

I absolutely love everything in the franchise, but if I had a nickel for every Total War campaign that I gave up on/ got bored with, I’d buy everyone in this thread a Warlord Titan.

At some point you’ll have destroyed all threats, your armies are dominant, your agents are everywhere, and only a few minor factions remain. Its pretty much a given that you’ll roll them over, its just going to take a long trek from one end of the continent(s) for a half ass battle against some backwater kingdom. It just gets to be a slog at a certain point.

If DLC dropped that added a faction, sure as gak I’m going to stop the campaign I’m doing and try that faction out, never to return to the previous campaign. If I did go back to the previous faction, I’d rather start a fresh campaign.

The thrill for me has always been in the first 50-100 turns, when things are truly precarious. WH2 seems to have added a mechanic to help this a bit, but I haven’t got too deep into the end game just yet.

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Torga_DW wrote:
dragon age inquistion. I made it through the first couple parts, then reached the part where a grand ball is coming up. Now grind, son! Grind like a mofo and you might get enough levels to be able to finish it! I had enough grinding.

I watched the ending on youtube. Aside from being uninspiring, the boss fight took like 30 mins. Needless to say, after that i skipped mass effect andromeda and it doesn't look like i'll be going back to bioware at this point.

I gave up on that game as well. But it was mostly because I lost a lot of my saved data. I liked the game well enough, mostly because of the setting.

I tried to start over again but I couldn't figure out the right race/class and the whole thing where you can simulate the save from the first two games. Just way too much going on there and it is frustrating.

Yeah, i liked the setting too. Had issues with that tapestry thing not working right for the choices i picked, but that's probably something i did wrong. I guess my problem with the game comes down to the the execution. It felt more like a single player mmorpg, you got glimpses of the 'interesting' things to come but ended up in a paddock somewhere fighting brigands that would spawn endlessly as you moved around while you tried to collect shinies and level up to be able to do the next bit. The first 2 games felt like i was part of a story/movie, the pacing was pretty good and doing things didn't feel like 'work'. This one was too much stick, not enough carrot. The boss fight was just symptomatic of that - i don't mind an involved boss fight, but 30 mins? Also, i didn't really connect well with the plot/story. To me it varied between uninteresting, predictable and nonsensical. I don't know, i wanted to like it i just didn't. :(

 Frankenberry wrote:
I admit, not many games have broken me. Not that I'm an amazing gamer (I'm really quite bad), it's just a thing I have about spending money on games and not getting it back in play time.

But, that being said:

Vanquish - Great idea for a game. Great graphics, combat, hell - even the voice acting was good. The story...I dunno, it's been awhile but I feel like I couldn't understand what was going on (a theme I've noticed with some obviously imported games), which killed a lot of enthusiasm for it. Plus the difficulty was ridiculous - the game punished you for every misstep.

The Dark Souls series - Yeah, I know, I'm a pleb or something. But I tell you, I hate this series with a passion, not because of the fanbase being toxic as hell (played enough mmo's to be immune to that), but because of the design philosophy. Make a beautiful game, insert well done characters (Onion Bro, *sniffle*), create an entire world...and then make it buggy and impossible to navigate. I don't get why the whole 'it's painfully difficult and that's why its fun, remember how hard those NES games were? PAIN IS FUN' thing that accompanies the series. Depressingly I've purchased DS1-DS3 and their DLC in an attempt to TRY to understand - and I regret it every time.

Battlefleet Gothic Armada - God I wanted to love this game. I was so excited when it came out...and after playing 'capture the intel' a half-dozen times I uninstalled the game. It's like whoever designed that game mode KNEW that it was stupid and wanted to make it as lame as possible. I'm surprised they didn't introduce a limit to the number of times you could board the enemy vessel in an attempt to make the whole process seem 'fluffy'.

Aww man Vanquish was a GREAT game! story was lacking sure but mechanics and gameplay more than made up for it. I've actually played it all the way through twice and am gearing up for a third time after I finish Z.O.E. (as you can tell I love fast-paced action games)