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I felt the film was too clunky, I had no desire to watch it again, if it's on the plane next time I fly I might watch it, but ehh.
It was all over the place.

The 5 second Star Wars bit from Daicon IV entertained me more lol

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Novelisation seems to contain additional scenes.

They always do, and are easily retconnable. There was a lot more information and stuff in the TFA novel, a fair number of it ignored when it came to TLJ.

Hey, it turns out there is method in my insanity.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-last-jedi-loses-sales-momentum-raising-concern-for-disney-1517245312

For 80% of the audience, the films are the thing.

In 40 years I've never read or watched anything outside the films except the West End Games Star Wars games (RPG and flying game.)

 Kilkrazy wrote:
For 80% of the audience, the films are the thing.

In 40 years I've never read or watched anything outside the films except the West End Games Star Wars games (RPG and flying game.)

Hey! I just recently bought the main RPG rulebook in MINT just for nostalgia. I never played the game really, but I liked the minis for the Miniatures game.

But I will be honest, its the lack of connection that I have with the new stuff that is motivating me to do this. I just want more of the old stuff to be honest.

Next I am going to tackle the novels that came out after ROJ, even though they are not canon anymore. I think they are referred to as Legends now. At any rate, I missed the whole boat on them, and they seem to have been popular, so it looks like I have something to fall back on instead of what Disney is putting out.

The RPG is really good and had excellent sourcebooks.

I am sad that I sold off my Star Wars RPG stuff years ago. (Although it's only nostalgia, as I don't ave any opportunities for RPGs nowadays.)

However, Disney can't just recycle old stuff in the age of Han Solo, the Rebel Alliance and Luke Skywalker. The story has to advance into the future, with new characters and letting go of the old ones. Or just stagnate.

I can't remember what happened to most of my WEG books. I have acquired pdfs of them all so I got rid, which was a huge mistake as you just don't ever get the urge to pick up a random pdf and flick through it.

I did however ensure I kept at least the Rebel Alliance and Imperial sourcebooks. These two pretty much inform my views on the galactic civil war and whilst I'm happy for them to be built on (as Rebels and Rogue One mainly do), anything that outright contradicts them in new media is just ignored in my headcanon.

The Imperial Sourcebook was awesome.

I got to play WEG Star Wars RPG over the Holidays as a One-shot. It was a blast.

The sad part of this whole thing is that if the characters in the movie Rogue One hadn't been so myopic and selfish, they could have prevented a lot of the tragedy that occurred in TLJ.

Selfish people...

 kronk wrote:
The sad part of this whole thing is that if the characters in the movie Rogue One hadn't been so myopic and selfish, they could have prevented a lot of the tragedy that occurred in TLJ.

Selfish people...

Spoiler:

Tarkin deleted the data for them. Unfortunately, there was a backup.

Disney is now so wary of the Star Wars brand's dismal performance in China that they have removed the words "Star Wars" from the title of the soon to be released (but still completely secret) Han Solo movie. In China, it will be called "Solo Ranger."

That's.. a really unfortunate sign of distrust in your own brand..

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I can't take the film too seriously or it falls apart.

A sentiment that holds true for almost all of the franchise.

I dunno.

I mean, even Rogue One was


ROGUE ONE
A Star Wars story

Although... The film is out in May, isn't it? Isn't it overdue for trailer time?

Yes, Disney are plainly pretty worried about the evolving Solo disaster. They probably realize they have more to lose than gain from a releasing a trailer.

BTW "Star Wars" ("星球大战") was prominently featured on the R1 posters in China:

 Manchu wrote:
Disney is now so wary of the Star Wars brand's dismal performance in China that they have removed the words "Star Wars" from the title of the soon to be released (but still completely secret) Han Solo movie. In China, it will be called "Solo Ranger."

I have literally just written out, thought better of, and then deleted five separate takes on "Solo Ranger". This is glorious news. I look forward to Star Wars's eventual Hong Kong scenes and transforming droids.


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The missing Solo trailer is a running gag in some places. People at Disney HQ must be soiling themselves.

Here’s one;

Ray: How are the Porgs Chewie?
Chewbacca: Yes.

But is TLJ doing badly in China?

It already left theaters a while back. It left China with only 40 mil.

If anyone wants to listen to a thorough dismantling of The Last Jedi, MauLer has finished putting out a five hour critique of the movie. Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

Bit of a drone, honestly.

A five-hour critique of a 2-hr popcorn movie? No thanks.

 AlexHolker wrote:
If anyone wants to listen to a thorough dismantling of The Last Jedi, MauLer has finished putting out a five hour critique of the movie. Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

Thanks but the movie itself was bad enough

 AlexHolker wrote:
If anyone wants to listen to a thorough dismantling of The Last Jedi, MauLer has finished putting out a five hour critique of the movie. Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

Alternatively, he could have just posted his script online and people could read it themselves in under one hour.

If your critique is 5 hours long, then it should not be presented in a video form.

I listened to a couple of bits (maybe 5 minutes worth) and what he said seemed good, but yeah, screw listening to 5 hours of it, especially since the guy has a relatively monotonous voice.

 kronk wrote:
The sad part of this whole thing is that if the characters in the movie Rogue One hadn't been so myopic and selfish, they could have prevented a lot of the tragedy that occurred in TLJ.

Selfish people...

Spoiler:

This is the cheeky kind of comment that I love. Exalt

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I look forward to Star Wars's eventual Hong Kong scenes and transforming droids.

Eventual?

I had forgotten both those things. Are you doing this to me to lure Skywalker into a trap?

 AlexHolker wrote:
If anyone wants to listen to a thorough dismantling of The Last Jedi, MauLer has finished putting out a five hour critique of the movie. Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

I'll give it a listen, but before I do can I ask if it's like a lot of YT reviews in harping on about SJW/Feminazis/etc? I'm interested in a discussion its failings as a film, not hearing a rant about Hollywood agendas.

Those vulture droid fighters. How do you go from them to x-wings/tie fighters? That’s such a step backwards!

 Future War Cultist wrote:
Those vulture droid fighters. How do you go from them to x-wings/tie fighters? That’s such a step backwards!

TIE fighters are pretty cheap, X-wings are very good in the hands of a skilled pilot.

Vulture Droids were also made by people who wanted to kill the republic as well.