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Lascannons are meant to hit and hurt tyrants and fex's... I want invincible land raiders if you want invincible big nasties.

Re posting from Tyranid Hive - news by Seeg:
hive tyrants can still take MRC
warp blast is the same except at a unit of 6 it deals d3+3 instead of d3+d3
neurothrope is cheap as balls. i want to say 45 but i'm not 100% certain.

the jormungandr stratagem is one giant cluster of weird ass sounding things. to give you an idea. before deployment you choose a unit(not monster) to deepstrike. it can deepstrike per normal rules but only from a 'tunnel'. then they go on to talk about what a 'tunnel' is. ravener, trygon and....one more thing... i cant remember... makes 'tunnels'

didnt manage to see the tyrannocyte transport rules. sorry

genestealers are still 12pts in total. 10 pts for body, 2 pts for rending claws

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exocrine and T-fex still get to fire twice if they stay still
for the carnifex biomorphs:
-1 to hit from enemy shooting biomorph is 10 pts
+1 attack on the charge is 8 pts
+1 BS is 10 points

doom of malantai was mentioned.......... in the fluff only so was the parasite

synapse is 12", tyrants synapse is 18"

no changes to mawlocs at all. same weapons. same statline. same special rules. same pointage.

What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?


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endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Lascannons are meant to hit and hurt tyrants and fex's... I want invincible land raiders if you want invincible big nasties.

Yeah I have no idea on the complaint of Lascannons finally being able to do their damn job for once.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

We do not have any so either you believe he is telling the truth or not.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

Believe or don't believe. If it was true, it wouldn't be a rumour but fact. Why do people keep having to put people down for saying a rumour? Sheesh. All I know he brought in great excitement for The Tyranid Hive. If anything even false, we are having a good time discussing. After all that is what these forums are for right? Discussing? If true, great. If not true, no damage done. Brining in fun and excitement? Win!

I really hope that genestealers getting +1 armor biomorph means everything is getting that +1 armor biomorph. I would love to get some 2+ tyrants, warriors, and carnifex. It would make a huge difference.

Davor wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

Believe or don't believe. If it was true, it wouldn't be a rumour but fact. Why do people keep having to put people down for saying a rumour? Sheesh. All I know he brought in great excitement for The Tyranid Hive. If anything even false, we are having a good time discussing. After all that is what these forums are for right? Discussing? If true, great. If not true, no damage done. Brining in fun and excitement? Win!

But it's more fun to hear reliable rumours rather than wishlisting.

On one hand you have rumour mongers that tell you accurate stuff year(s) ahead. On the other hand you have guys that invent up stuff for clickbaits. Guess whose rumours I find more fun to read.

tneva82 wrote:

Davor wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

Believe or don't believe. If it was true, it wouldn't be a rumour but fact. Why do people keep having to put people down for saying a rumour? Sheesh. All I know he brought in great excitement for The Tyranid Hive. If anything even false, we are having a good time discussing. After all that is what these forums are for right? Discussing? If true, great. If not true, no damage done. Brining in fun and excitement? Win!

But it's more fun to hear reliable rumours rather than wishlisting.

On one hand you have rumour mongers that tell you accurate stuff year(s) ahead. On the other hand you have guys that invent up stuff for clickbaits. Guess whose rumours I find more fun to read.

I can vouch for the tyrant datasheet.

To be honest we are gonna know if hes telling the truth or no in ... less than a week. I see no point in him lying. And if he is lying isn't like we are gonna be deceived for more than 3-4 days.

Exactly.

Davor wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

Believe or don't believe. If it was true, it wouldn't be a rumour but fact. Why do people keep having to put people down for saying a rumour? Sheesh. All I know he brought in great excitement for The Tyranid Hive. If anything even false, we are having a good time discussing. After all that is what these forums are for right? Discussing? If true, great. If not true, no damage done. Brining in fun and excitement? Win!

Because I HATE wasting my time reading false garbage.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Davor wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

Believe or don't believe. If it was true, it wouldn't be a rumour but fact. Why do people keep having to put people down for saying a rumour? Sheesh. All I know he brought in great excitement for The Tyranid Hive. If anything even false, we are having a good time discussing. After all that is what these forums are for right? Discussing? If true, great. If not true, no damage done. Brining in fun and excitement? Win!

Because I HATE wasting my time reading false garbage.

Then the moment it doesn't link to a GW source don't read it. Then everything you read is real.

gigasnail wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Davor wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

Believe or don't believe. If it was true, it wouldn't be a rumour but fact. Why do people keep having to put people down for saying a rumour? Sheesh. All I know he brought in great excitement for The Tyranid Hive. If anything even false, we are having a good time discussing. After all that is what these forums are for right? Discussing? If true, great. If not true, no damage done. Brining in fun and excitement? Win!

But it's more fun to hear reliable rumours rather than wishlisting.

On one hand you have rumour mongers that tell you accurate stuff year(s) ahead. On the other hand you have guys that invent up stuff for clickbaits. Guess whose rumours I find more fun to read.

I can vouch for the tyrant datasheet.

I can vouch as well.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Davor wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

Believe or don't believe. If it was true, it wouldn't be a rumour but fact. Why do people keep having to put people down for saying a rumour? Sheesh. All I know he brought in great excitement for The Tyranid Hive. If anything even false, we are having a good time discussing. After all that is what these forums are for right? Discussing? If true, great. If not true, no damage done. Brining in fun and excitement? Win!

Because I HATE wasting my time reading false garbage.

All I can say, is if what I saw is true, everything about the Hive Tyrant is true. The other stuff, I believe because nothing on the Hive Tyrant is false.

Also for points wise, while I don't know how many points it costs, it is one power point cheaper than it is in the index and if taking the wings, add two points. So it seems to be cheaper and more expensive at least power points wise.

 Lance845 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Davor wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

Believe or don't believe. If it was true, it wouldn't be a rumour but fact. Why do people keep having to put people down for saying a rumour? Sheesh. All I know he brought in great excitement for The Tyranid Hive. If anything even false, we are having a good time discussing. After all that is what these forums are for right? Discussing? If true, great. If not true, no damage done. Brining in fun and excitement? Win!

Because I HATE wasting my time reading false garbage.

Then the moment it doesn't link to a GW source don't read it. Then everything you read is real.

We have reliable rumor mongers though. So when a new one pops up where I don't recognize the name, I want to know if they're reliable.

Here is what I really want to know at this point.

- Do we have any idea about the +1 to armor save biomorph on anything but Genestealers? Warriors? Carnifex? Tyrants? (These are all kits that came with extra armor plates)

- Are shrikes in the codex (doubt it :( )

- Are Carnifexes the only units with the bunch of adaptability biomorphs or do more of rank and file get some too? (Warriors again?)

- Any buffs/points decreases for hormagaunts/termagants?

- Any changes to Tervigons?

- Is there a strategem to respawn /replenish units?


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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Davor wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

Believe or don't believe. If it was true, it wouldn't be a rumour but fact. Why do people keep having to put people down for saying a rumour? Sheesh. All I know he brought in great excitement for The Tyranid Hive. If anything even false, we are having a good time discussing. After all that is what these forums are for right? Discussing? If true, great. If not true, no damage done. Brining in fun and excitement? Win!

Because I HATE wasting my time reading false garbage.

Then the moment it doesn't link to a GW source don't read it. Then everything you read is real.

We have reliable rumor mongers though. So when a new one pops up where I don't recognize the name, I want to know if they're reliable.

Even the reliable ones have been wrong before.

Nid dex was supposed to be last novemeber with at least 3 new kits. That rumor was from a reliable source.

Oh god these rumours are making me excited. 4++ and T7 on Tyrants? Yes please! Neurothrope's being separate units and characters sounds awesome - and even the Maleceptor sounds way more useable.

The Hive Fleet traits sound good, but the psychic powers (other than Psychic Scream) sound meh, although on the whole, Tyranid powers are pretty good.

 Galas wrote:
To be honest we are gonna know if hes telling the truth or no in ... less than a week. I see no point in him lying. And if he is lying isn't like we are gonna be deceived for more than 3-4 days.

You haven't seen guys making crap up with product coming soon? You haven't been following GW rumours that long then. Standard practice.

I don't know what to say. If theres no pics I never get too excited about rumours. I find them a anecdote, more than anything else.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Davor wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's the rumor record on this guy so we know whether or not to take it seriously?

Believe or don't believe. If it was true, it wouldn't be a rumour but fact. Why do people keep having to put people down for saying a rumour? Sheesh. All I know he brought in great excitement for The Tyranid Hive. If anything even false, we are having a good time discussing. After all that is what these forums are for right? Discussing? If true, great. If not true, no damage done. Brining in fun and excitement? Win!

Because I HATE wasting my time reading false garbage.

I doubt your time is that impotant.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/10/29/preview-the-great-devourer-essential-accessories-for-painters-and-great-value-scenery-bundles/

The names are correct (7 hive fleets)

These Hive Fleet Adaptations will cover the most well known of the Tyranid Hive Fleets – Behemoth, Kraken and Leviathan – as well as developing the background for four more – Gorgon, Jormungandr, Hydra and Kronos. All the adaptions have been designed to be fun, thematic, and powerful; Hydra, for example, can re-roll hits in close combat against units they outnumber (which, with Tyranids, shouldn’t be too tricky!).

So it is confirmed, that guy was legit, because Kronos is a totally random name (It isn't a monster like the others with 0 fluff) that nobody could have guessed at random.
And they have already confirmed that he was right about the Hydra one.

Yeah, that pretty much proves them as legit.

 Galas wrote:
So it is confirmed, that guy was legit, because Kronos is a totally random name (It isn't a monster like the others with 0 fluff) that nobody could have guessed at random.
And they have already confirmed that he was right about the Hydra one.

Cronos (Kronos/Cronus) was a Titan in Greek mythology so is a monster of sorts.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Galas wrote:
So it is confirmed, that guy was legit, because Kronos is a totally random name (It isn't a monster like the others with 0 fluff) that nobody could have guessed at random.
And they have already confirmed that he was right about the Hydra one.

Cronos (Kronos/Cronus) was a Titan in Greek mythology so is a monster of sorts.

He did ate his babies but I don't think he is the same kind of Monster they use to name Tyranids Hive Fleets.

 AduroT wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
There's an OG screamer killer in that picture, of COURSE things will be hurt. S10 all day, every day.

I hope my airbrush compressor can be repaired (from the repair) and I can find a way to paint a disgustingly bright green like the Monster Energy logo. If someone knows a recipe please send me a link.

Then I could batch paint my few Nids in time for the Codex and maybe gift them to my brother for christmas.

Edit: A radioactive/ Slurm soda green like this https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Sko_EE_Wi0k/VQRf7VhtXrI/AAAAAAAAHi8/BjBJE6RRDxI/w1042-h586-no/DSC_0337.JPG

Bright yellow (Flash Gits iirc) with a coat of green wash.

A late thank you from me. I just bought Flash Gits and the greener wash and the green glaze. I should've gone to the local game store instead of the GW in a different city for more , but I had hope that my webstore exclusive Sgt. Harker was waiting for me - a hope that was brutally dashed*. Still agonising over the black part of the models. Glossy black, black with silcer edge highlights, black with some fleshy highlights...what's creepier?!

*They had an awesome display featuring Steel Legion and Knights, though. Why do Death Guard, Guard snd Nids have to be so awesome and close together I work 60 hour weeks, I have no capacity for all this stuff. And Necromunda next...sigh.

Depends on what kind of black you're going for. If you want a glossy beetle black, painting them a solid black, then after varnishing going back and painting over the black with the blue gemstone paint gives a cool glossy sheen to it.

I don't know yet what I want


Are those rumoured points good or bad (I don't have the index).

Also on thehivemind, i thought a mod said he gave them proof in the form of pics but didnt want proof to hit him back in the form of pics on the internet.

Chronos is a greek titan. (Change the K for a Ch.) The titans where the enemies of the gods. During the middel ages Chrono was assosiated with time. For those of you who saw Hercules, the Titans are what hades releases from the prison. In Titan Quest chronos was the final boss in the exspansion. In the name Chrono Trigger the name is used for the titular character.

Anyway... so no global -1 to hit.

behemoth: reroll failed charges

probably good with swarm armies or genstealers.

Kraken: can charge after falling back

Ok to break some chaff. Fall back and charge again. Gargoyles would be nice with this.

Gorgon: reroll 1s to hit for fight phase

Good for mellee armies, but probably not the best.

jormungandr: always have cover bonus (i'm not sure if i read this right)

If they always have cover bonus, this is very very good. Genestealers become 4+ 5++. Smaller griblits gets 5+. Carnifexes get 2+.

hydra: reroll misses against units with less models during fight phase

Only good in swarms. Good with genestealers. Good if you multi charge genestealers. Swarmlord slingshot will be good with this.

kronos: reroll 1s to hit for shooting, IF the unit doesnt move

Good for hive guards.

Leviathan: looks to be the same as salamander tactic but i'm not 100% sure

If this is re-roll 1 for shooting or mellee, would this make the big gun tyranofex good? If both hit they get a better profile. Would make tervigon much better in combat. Very good with 1 model units.

Is -1 to hit carnifexes worth it for 10 points? Can somebody mathhammer this? I am not sure.

I want to know, how are warriors? Any cost reduction? Are shrikes there? How much is the heavy venom cannon?

zamerion wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/10/29/preview-the-great-devourer-essential-accessories-for-painters-and-great-value-scenery-bundles/

The names are correct (7 hive fleets)

These Hive Fleet Adaptations will cover the most well known of the Tyranid Hive Fleets – Behemoth, Kraken and Leviathan – as well as developing the background for four more – Gorgon, Jormungandr, Hydra and Kronos. All the adaptions have been designed to be fun, thematic, and powerful; Hydra, for example, can re-roll hits in close combat against units they outnumber (which, with Tyranids, shouldn’t be too tricky!).

Any bets which 7 from the master list of chapter tactics Nids get?

-1 to be hit at 12"+ seems like a nobrainer

He also says Instinctive Behavior changes.
When out of Synapse now -1 to hit

If Jormungder data is true I think thats going to be my fleet depending on the actual wording for some of the rules.

Giving an army wide +1 save, a stratgem to deepsrike things that could not normally deepstrike or get other units to accompany Ravenors like it's a trygon tunnel (gotta wait for what exactly this is) could bea mssive first turn threat overload, along with the changes to some of the other units...


Mother of god.