Necromunda Underhive - House of Chains Pg272

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**Inquisitor Gideon**

Grot 6 wrote:
I think those bots would look better on a 50mm base. Aside from that, I'm picking up two for the gladiator pits. Add in the Dark Eldar captured aliens, and we can start betting some hard earned creds for the lucky contestants...

Ogryn Vs Ambot, Furious George Vs REAL Ambul, Goliath berserker vs Ambot, etc.etc.etc. Maybe 1 ganger from eachgang enters, one man/ bot leaves.... MMMM.....

As to the paint jobs- what can you say, someone put together some half butt minis, pushed them out as "boutique." You can't expect them to have good paint jobs, because the material looks like finecrap. I have a distinct feeling that GW is taking the piss with us on slipping in finecrap in within the wheat.

We were first told those Original pics were " casts", then they are there again, with a paint job. Sorry, but unless someone can prove it- Those Forgeworld crap minis are cash grabs with no QA/QC. If anyone else has a large set- Buy one, and post a picture of the mini in the little forgeworld bag/ clamshell/ out of box, or how you get it.

As of now, I will not buy those or any figures in Finecast/ PVC at Forgeworld Prices...

In closing, I would like to ask if anyone else has bought these Necromunda figures or the add ons for the gangs from Forgeworld, and if any of them have been of this low quality?

I've bought every bountey hunter and Necro release so far and they've all been flawless.

**AndrewGPaul**

My understanding was that "Finecast" referred to resin models manufactured using spincasting rather than traditional vacuum casting, not to the material used. Certainly I've had plenty of Forge World models that look, feel and behave like Finecast models but with no casting defects. I'm not sure what "We were first told those Original pics were " casts", then they are there again, with a paint job." means in relation to the quality of the models, but everything I've bought for Necromunda has been perfectly presented.

Back on-topic, we now have official Necromunda rules for the Ambull and the borewyrms!

**stormboy**

DaveC wrote:
Ambots confirmed at £25, €32.50, $40 for 2

No word on the price for bases yet.

Bases are listed at 5$ US - and are direct, not trade.

**Grot 6**

AndrewGPaul wrote:
My understanding was that "Finecast" referred to resin models manufactured using spincasting rather than traditional vacuum casting, not to the material used. Certainly I've had plenty of Forge World models that look, feel and behave like Finecast models but with no casting defects. I'm not sure what "We were first told those Original pics were " casts", then they are there again, with a paint job." means in relation to the quality of the models, but everything I've bought for Necromunda has been perfectly presented.

Back on-topic, we now have official Necromunda rules for the Ambull and the borewyrms!

Those three Necro figures have a lot to be desired for Finecast. Look at the original figures in the earlier pages, and then say that those are Forgeworld Quality.

**Carlovonsexron**

It makes me wonder if forgeworld has been turned into the noob training area, while alot of the more traditional talent is moved to primarchs and specialist games

**AndrewGPaul**

Grot 6 wrote:

Those three Necro figures have a lot to be desired for Finecast. Look at the original figures in the earlier pages, and then say that those are Forgeworld Quality.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Clearer pics from the community site:

[spoiler]

Look just the same as the other resin models pictured, to me. Apart from the psyker, but that's a much older sculpt.

**Baxx**

At least the paint job is sharper and clearer than the rules!

Btw we got official N18 Monster Hunt scenario (looks identical to the original).

Having 40mm bases feels much too big for me in Necromunda. I don't like the thought of 50mm at all, they can keep that for 40k or "larger" games. That said, I have used some Sector Mechanicus 40mm bases for Necromunda ogryns. I think they look way more interesting than the necromunda bases and matches the terrain perfectly, something the necromunda bases does not. I do however mix and match them (where available in the same sizes, only 32mm I think).

GaroRobe wrote:
The butt of the needler is what's bothering me. It looks like it's a needler that came from a bad quality finecast model. It looks rough and unfinished

It's a unique weapon, the Artisan needle pistol (with auto loader), only carried by Baertrum Arturos III.

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Grot 6 wrote:

In closing, I would like to ask if anyone else has bought these Necromunda figures or the add ons for the gangs from Forgeworld, and if any of them have been of this low quality?

I bought all Necromunda minis. My impression was they have good quality.

**Binabik15**

No 360 view on the Ambots? Booooooo!

At their price just buying them and messing around to see how posable they are and what you'd actually use them as*, but I'd like to see more of them besides the store pic and some decent shots from behind in the gladiator fight article.

*Cmon, TWO Ambots? At least one will get turned into a heavy weapons servitor, surely?

**Baxx**

There's a tactics card that can give 360 view to the Ambot

**Jackal90**

Will be buying ambots in bulk.
Starting up a 30k dark mechanicum army as these make for perfect castellax stand-ins.
Just need a shoulder mounted weapon from the bitz box and good to go.

That's 5 box's for me.
Really can't pass these up and the price is 100× better than expected.
So £20 less than the derpy castellan robots minus a datasmith, I can live with that.

**AegisGrimm**

They will look so much cooler than Castellans. As I said before, maybe I'll grab a couple of the Castellan guns and put them on back mounts, even if it's for gaming with other rules.

**Racerguy180**

Jackal90 wrote:
Will be buying ambots in bulk.
Starting up a 30k dark mechanicum army as these make for perfect castellax stand-ins.
Just need a shoulder mounted weapon from the bitz box and good to go.

That's 5 box's for me.
Really can't pass these up and the price is 100× better than expected.
So £20 less than the derpy castellan robots minus a datasmith, I can live with that.

I'm in the same boat, I want to convert/kitbash them with both the castellax & castellan. I wonder if the extra faces from the armiger kit will work without too much hassle?

**Jackal90**

Racerguy180 wrote:
Jackal90 wrote:
Will be buying ambots in bulk.
Starting up a 30k dark mechanicum army as these make for perfect castellax stand-ins.
Just need a shoulder mounted weapon from the bitz box and good to go.

That's 5 box's for me.
Really can't pass these up and the price is 100× better than expected.
So £20 less than the derpy castellan robots minus a datasmith, I can live with that.

I'm in the same boat, I want to convert/kitbash them with both the castellax & castellan. I wonder if the extra faces from the armiger kit will work without too much hassle?

I think the face plates may be a bit too big to be fair.
Really need to see scale shots of an ambot though.
Going down to my local GW tomorrow and the managers has a set painted, so I'll get some scale pics with a marine, dread etc.
Looking at them, I'd say they are around 10mm shorter than a castellax though.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/11/breaking-news-from-gama/

Kal and Scab's are getting a redo. Lets hope that leads a to a few more of the classic characters reappearing.

**Kid_Kyoto**

**Danny76**

Really like them.
He’s always been a favourite, so good to see new sculpts of them both

**Haighus**

Those are some fancy laspistols. Looks good!

**aka_mythos**

It'll be interesting to see how they update Kal's rules... I feel like Necromunda has become even more dangerous since the last time he was in the Underhive.

**Darth Bob**

Do we know if Kal and Scabs are Forge World or a plastic character kit?

**AndrewGPaul**

Probably resin - all the other characters are.

**Flinty**

They can't be Forgeworld. They have a decent paint job

**aka_mythos**

Flinty wrote:
They can't be Forgeworld. They have a decent paint job

FW has given up much of what it was doing independently. In the past they'd on occasion commission but generally use painted minis of whatever anyone in the FW studio had painted. Now GW's main studio is handling more for the FW team, the heavy metal team is mostly handling the painting, while the 40k rules writers are writing the FAQ's and 40k Rules for FW.

**Dread Master**

Darth Bob wrote:
Do we know if Kal and Scabs are Forge World or a plastic character kit?

How awesome would it be if those were plastic kit? One can dream....

**ImAGeek**

aka_mythos wrote:
Flinty wrote:
They can't be Forgeworld. They have a decent paint job

FW has given up much of what it was doing independently. In the past they'd on occasion commission but generally use painted minis of whatever anyone in the FW studio had painted. Now GW's main studio is handling more for the FW team, the heavy metal team is mostly handling the painting, while the 40k rules writers are writing the FAQ's and 40k Rules for FW.

I guess you haven’t been following the Forge World Necromunda releases, because they absolutely were not painted by the Eavy Metal team. Completely different painting style and lately nowhere near Eavy Metal quality.

**JohnnyHell**

Great models... bit of a pisstake to have done the MTO on the old versions knowing these were coming, mind you.

**Mr_Rose**

Did they though? MTO is done by Citadel, these are Forge World sculpts. Also, the turn-around on resin minis is much shorter than plastics so the sculptor could have seen the MTO and thought “I can do better than that” and started the project. Possibly not even intending to produce them for sale.

Also, MTO is a chance to obtain classic minis, nothing else.

**JohnnyHell**

Cool story. My opinion stands. ;-) Not worth a thread detour.

**robbienw**

aka_mythos wrote:
Flinty wrote:
They can't be Forgeworld. They have a decent paint job

FW has given up much of what it was doing independently. In the past they'd on occasion commission but generally use painted minis of whatever anyone in the FW studio had painted. Now GW's main studio is handling more for the FW team, the heavy metal team is mostly handling the painting, while the 40k rules writers are writing the FAQ's and 40k Rules for FW.

This is utter nonsense.

FW have their own studio paint team of 3 guys. They are all on Instagram and/or facebook where they often talk about what minis they have painted.

The new Kal Jerico and Scabs were painted by Borja Garcia, one of the FW painters.

**zamerion**

So we do not know with certainty if it's resin or plastic?

All characters from necromunda are of resin,

but GW has never announced resin things in these events (Maybe the hero cawdor disappeared a few months ago that we still do not know what is )

Also the sculpt and the paint, is closer to how they do plastic things than resin..

**Baxx**

Both plastic and resin glues together nice, easy to spray and paint. Only difference in my experience is price, which usually is substantial.