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 Sqorgar wrote:
I don't know how feasible this is, but I think the old tiles were literally just scaled down by some small percentage. If you could scan them in and print them out at the 1'x1', it might work.

Also, it's worth pointing out that you can probably use the columns without the walls, and maybe use some foamboard for walls. It really depends on how much effort you want to go to.

But yeah, they aren't really the same size and you'll be better off just gluing the poster that comes in Dark Uprising to a board and using that instead.

I know this! I am aware that the cardboard tiles use 1.9" floorsegments and the new ones use 2" floor segments. I HAVE WRITTEN SUCH. I am aware of this.
I want to know if anyone has a foto of the new plastik walls and corners sitting on the old cardboard tiles, because I want to gauge how horrible it looks;

because I have 3 whole boards with old cardboard tiles glued on top
and i have ordererd 3 boxes of dark uprising

and I want to know if it is a futile effort.

I'm sorry, am I talking hebrew? Is my writing so hardly legible? So hard to understand? All that you have written and said - I already know! I already wrote in the post you are replying to!
Holy Moley, what is up with peoples Reading comprehension?!

 archont wrote:

 Sqorgar wrote:
I don't know how feasible this is, but I think the old tiles were literally just scaled down by some small percentage. If you could scan them in and print them out at the 1'x1', it might work.

Also, it's worth pointing out that you can probably use the columns without the walls, and maybe use some foamboard for walls. It really depends on how much effort you want to go to.

But yeah, they aren't really the same size and you'll be better off just gluing the poster that comes in Dark Uprising to a board and using that instead.

I know this! I am aware that the cardboard tiles use 1.9" floorsegments and the new ones use 2" floor segments. I HAVE WRITTEN SUCH. I am aware of this.
I want to know if anyone has a foto of the new plastik walls and corners sitting on the old cardboard tiles, because I want to gauge how horrible it looks;

because I have 3 whole boards with old cardboard tiles glued on top
and i have ordererd 3 boxes of dark uprising

and I want to know if it is a futile effort.

I'm sorry, am I talking hebrew? Is my writing so hardly legible? So hard to understand? All that you have written and said - I already know! I already wrote in the post you are replying to!
Holy Moley, what is up with peoples Reading comprehension?!

Was curious so found this online.

https://www.reddit.com/r/necromunda/comments/dyb9zi/dark_uprising_terrain_on_underhive_tiles/

You might fancy covering those mats with the new tiles.

 archont wrote:

I'm sorry, am I talking hebrew? Is my writing so hardly legible? So hard to understand? All that you have written and said - I already know! I already wrote in the post you are replying to!
Holy Moley, what is up with peoples Reading comprehension?!

I find that when I'm asking others for something, acting like a complete dick is the best way to go about it.

And yes, your writing is hard to understand. Even if you spelled things correctly and used proper punctuation, capitalization, and spacing, the way you phrase things and the word choices you make are an obstacle to understanding.

Deaf Chas wrote:


Was curious so found this online.

https://www.reddit.com/r/necromunda/comments/dyb9zi/dark_uprising_terrain_on_underhive_tiles/

You might fancy covering those mats with the new tiles.

You sir are a god send! Thank you so much! Seeing that picture, I'm actually really really relieved - I think it's gonna be serviceable; one part of the solution might be to glue a small lid underneath (0.1mm plasticcard) and have a couple of millimeters of rubble extending away from walls and corners - that should obfuscate all misalignments with the black spaces! another part of the Solution will be to shorten some of the wall sections by like 4mm each, and it'll be GOLDEN

THANK YOU

 Sqorgar wrote:
I don't know how feasible this is, but I think the old tiles were literally just scaled down by some small percentage. If you could scan them in and print them out at the 1'x1', it might work.

Also, it's worth pointing out that you can probably use the columns without the walls, and maybe use some foamboard for walls. It really depends on how much effort you want to go to.

But yeah, they aren't really the same size and you'll be better off just gluing the poster that comes in Dark Uprising to a board and using that instead.

old tiles were based on the old Zones resin boards which were not actually 1x1'

I bet the masters were 1x1 but the resin casts shrunk a bit, not really noticible on a 28mm mini but when you get to 305mm it shows

More revelations:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
More revelations:

Spoiler:

Zone Mortalis Tip No7...The first about stairs.The stairs are modular in themselves, and multiple stairs can connect to the stair platform in several positions.Plasma Conduit pipes will also fit under the stair platform.

Zone Mortalis Tip No8... because stairs need more than one tweet. You can stack two sets of stairs on top of each other and create a staircase that spirals around a column.

That’s actually really cool, thank you for sharing . I like this new terrain a lot, but I’m not sure I’ll get any since it’s not compatible with the cardboard tiles.

Where are these excellent tips coming from?

This Twitter, I'm fairly sure:
https://twitter.com/Owen_Patten

I was about to grumble that I didnt think to magnetize mine before building them, but not only are they open bottom, none of the tops are glued to allow for flipping to stack layers and adding walkway pieces. I may have to track down a ton of the right size magnet I guess.

Was tempted to think why didn't they include the magnets in the first place? But the price would probably have doubled.

Citadel™ Magnets™ isn't something I ever want to see on sale.

They'd be so stupidly overpriced.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Citadel™ Magnets™ isn't something I ever want to see on sale.

They'd be so stupidly overpriced.

7.99 USD for four. I can see it now.

 Sabotage! wrote:


That’s actually really cool, thank you for sharing . I like this new terrain a lot, but I’m not sure I’ll get any since it’s not compatible with the cardboard tiles.

Couldn't you just make yourself some new tiles that they are compatible with? Surely it can't be that hard.

Bob Lorgar wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:


That’s actually really cool, thank you for sharing . I like this new terrain a lot, but I’m not sure I’ll get any since it’s not compatible with the cardboard tiles.

Couldn't you just make yourself some new tiles that they are compatible with? Surely it can't be that hard.

Eh, I’d have to buy a decent graphic design program, learn how to use it, measure everything to a very precise degree, find a company that will print custom designs onto durable card tiles with a mat finish (because if I went through that much work I wouldn’t just glue print outs onto a tile). Sounds like more work than I am willing to put in to make myself (very subpar with my artist abilities) tiles so I can buy some terrain to use with them. I’m at a point in my life where I don’t have a ton of free time, and I’d rather spend a bit more money on things that require less work so I can use my free time to do things I really want to do (like paint my enormous backlog of minis.

That’s not to say there aren’t people out there that this wouldn’t be any easy solution for, I just don’t fall into that category.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Citadel™ Magnets™ isn't something I ever want to see on sale.

They'd be so stupidly overpriced.

While I agree with not wanting to see GW start doing that, I don't understand why they haven't (as far as I'm aware) posted anything like:

H.B.M.C. wrote:More revelations:

Spoiler:

Zone Mortalis Tip No7...The first about stairs.The stairs are modular in themselves, and multiple stairs can connect to the stair platform in several positions.Plasma Conduit pipes will also fit under the stair platform.

Zone Mortalis Tip No8... because stairs need more than one tweet. You can stack two sets of stairs on top of each other and create a staircase that spirals around a column.

Those pictures and a handful of lines of accompanying text have done more to enthuse me for the set than anything posted on the offical channels. There was a 3min video in which the same guy briefly mentioned some of the options, but they didn't show any of it off in detail - only a massive table that, though excellent, also looked way too intimidating to try making yourself any time soon. Some small variations and tricks that anyone with a set or two can accomplish? That's more like it.

Yep, I'm really liking all the stuff that can be done with the set especially once you start combining the pipes and other scenery kits. Just got one set of uprising and 3 sets of the floor tiles, but sure I'll add a lot more of the scenery kits once they are released on their own. Haven't added magnets yet, but as pointed out the places they need to go are still easily accessible once the walls and pillars have been assembled so can add them any time.

Also, painted up a wall section as a test piece and was really pleased at the results I got with a pretty quick paint scheme, so I think getting a decent sized set of scenery painted up will not take too long, especially once I start batch painting it.

Has anyone put a double stack next to a sector mechanicus piece yet?

I really hope they line up so folks can do more than just climb ladders on the table I'm planning.

 JonWebb wrote:
Has anyone put a double stack next to a sector mechanicus piece yet?

I really hope they line up so folks can do more than just climb ladders on the table I'm planning.

Three pages back:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Public Service Announcement!

Been waiting for these Sector Mechanicus comparison shots for a while:

Spoiler:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I bet the masters were 1x1 but the resin casts shrunk a bit, not really noticible on a 28mm mini but when you get to 305mm it shows

It shouldn't have, if they're using decent quality resin. The fast-cast stuff I use has less than 1mm shrinkage per metre, and it's not even close to the best stuff on the market.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I bet the masters were 1x1 but the resin casts shrunk a bit, not really noticible on a 28mm mini but when you get to 305mm it shows

It shouldn't have, if they're using decent quality resin. The fast-cast stuff I use has less than 1mm shrinkage per metre, and it's not even close to the best stuff on the market.

Yea, it's not shrinkage its just metric vs imperial. The FW tiles were made in metric units at 300mm and the new Plastic ones were made in imperial units at 12 inches (aka 304.8mm).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But... don't the stairs/platforms not work by themselves? What would you use them with if they were sold by themselves?

The Instruction booklet for Zone Mortalis - Platforms and Stairs only includes the build instructions for the platforms, stairs, and elevator on the two sprues. Columns are shown, but faded out with a note "! The Zone Mortalis Stairs and Platforms can be used with the Zone Mortalis Columns and Walls as shown" So I'm guessing no column sprues included in the platform set. There are pages in the back showing how the four kits all work together (two listed, floors, and plasma pipes)

Sounds like one could use buckets of these new plastic terrain bits. But only given fistfuls?

I could use those stairs for any and all sci-fi terrain I have.

Just to give a hint of how big a mess the Book of Ruin is, it references the Turf War campaign...

Baxx wrote:

Just to give a hint of how big a mess the Book of Ruin is, it references the Turf War campaign...

Why wouldn’t it?

N3p3nth3 wrote:

Baxx wrote:

Just to give a hint of how big a mess the Book of Ruin is, it references the Turf War campaign...

Why wouldn’t it?

The Turf War campaign was only available in Gang War 1, which is out of print. It has essentially been replaced by the Dominion campaign in the big hardback rulebook. They are very similar campaigns though.

Baxx wrote:
Sounds like one could use buckets of these new plastic terrain bits. But only given fistfuls?

I could use those stairs for any and all sci-fi terrain I have.

Just to give a hint of how big a mess the Book of Ruin is, it references the Turf War campaign...

Compile another list and I'll get it to Andy.

Sounds good, here we go:

INTERNAL CONFLICTS
Razor-sharp talons (page 50, 101): The first matches Khimmerix's weapon (Str S+1, AP -2, D3, Rending), the second is a brand new, much weaker weapon profile (Str +1, AP -1, D 1, Rending).
Scouring Pyromancy Wyrd Power (page 34, 99): The first is similar to the old one from Book of Perils, which was later fixed in Book of Book of Judgement. The later is the correct one, as fixed in Book of Judgement. Neither are 'Continuous Effect', but the bad one counts as a carried weapon 'while maintained'. The correct one is fired immediately when successfully making the Wyrd Power. The good one on page 99 is also different from all previous Scouring by having AP -2.
Extra arm (page 43-45): Different Extra Arm Special Rules. The Alpha has a newer wording, while the wording for Acolytes and Neophytes was copied from PDF.
Assail (page 34, 48, 79, 99): The version on page 99 (copied from The Book of Judgement page 117 or 124) is different from the others (page 34, 48 and 79) (copied from The Book of Judgement page 25).

EXTERNAL CONFLICTS (CONFLICT WITH PREVIOUS PUBLICATIONS)
Venomous bite (page 101): A new unique weapon (AP -2, Melee, Toxin), however Cyberachnid already have this weapon with a different profile (identical to stiletto knife).
Throwing knives (page 94): Incorrect profile for throwing knife. Missing silent and has Str S (toxin weapons usually shouldn't have Str).
Flame Blast (page 99): Technically different from the one found in The Book of Judgement on page 117 (says 'weapon with the Melee trait' instead of 'close combat weapon', but may count as a clarification) and completely different from the one found in The Book of Judgement on page 124 (says 'ranged weapon'). This could be intentional as the fighters are carrying different weapons, but still...
Freeze Time (page 99): Different from the one found in The Book of Judgement on page 117. It now applies 'during the following round' instead of 'for the remainder of this round' and its range has been reduced to 6" (instead of 12"). Of note, there is a reference in the Book of ruin to the powers from the N18 rulebook (those from the Ghast Harvest scenario, on page 171), that use the same wording as the Book of Judgement. So it may technically count as an internal inconsistency.
Hierarchy of the Damned and the Loss of a Leader (page 25-26): Specialists get priority over regular gangers in the rulebook (but don't in the book of ruin).

ERRORS
Abomination of Badzone 12 is not immune to Pinning and can't make an action to stand up. Should probably be immune to Pinning, either by a special rule (similar to Spawn), or given Nerves of Steel since it automatically passes Cool checks (except Nerves of Steel has unclear interactions with Seismic trait).
Hermaphage Magos (page 50): Doesn't specify Non-sanctioned. The fighter is an Outlaw Bounty Hunter with several Wyrd Powers. Alyce Shivver is also Outlaw Bounty Hunter with several Wyrd Powers, but is specified to be Non-sanctioned. Hermaphage Magos should probably be Non-sanctioned also!
Spearing spines and bony growths (page 101): Melee weapon with 1" long range, but missing the Versatile trait. Should probably have Versatile!
House Favours (page 106): "Note that the House Favours table included here is the same as the one on page 148 of the Necromunda Rulebook, and has been included for completeness". Wrong, it is NOT the same! On a 13+, old gives equipment for 100 credits, new is 150 credits.
House & Outlaw Favours (page 107-108: Mix between "campaign cycle" and "campaign week".
Chaos Favours (page 110): Dark Omens specifies the Demagogue (title of Chaos Cult Leader) to perfrom the Lead Ritual post-battle action. However other Chaotic gangs (Corrupted gangs & Corpse Grinder cult) don't have a Demagogue. And Corpse Grinder Cult can't even perform the Lead Ritual post-battle action (which may be an error of itself).
Demolition Charge (page 32, 46): Both Chaos cults and Genestealer cults have to pay 65 credits to purchase Demolition charges from their respective Equipment Lists while they only cost 50 credits in the trading post. This error has been copy/pasted from the pdf (demo charge were 50 credits for Genestealer Cults in the original WD article).
Meeeeeeeeeat! scenario (page 83): Specifies how many tactics cards the "defender" can choose. But there are no attacker or defender in this scenario.
Hierarchy of the Damned (page 25): Still references the Cult Leader skill from the original article. This skill as been replaced by the Devotion special rules in the pdf (the problem already existed in the pdf though).
Turf War (page 41): "If using a Genestealer Cults gang in a Turf War Campaign, the following rules apply" -WTF?!?

More revelations!

Well I hope you're happy man, I just ordered a Dark Uprising box. The terrain is too good and I can make extras myself.