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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We all know you can't make jokes about women. Ever.

Only stupid stupid men can be made fun of. Stupid men!!!

It wasn’t really the time or the place for it.

Can't be bothered by comments like that.

I'm just stoked we're getting Caryatids, I still have the WD where they're first mentioned. the Phyrr Cats do look awful, but I'm sure there are going to be 3rd party cat models out there that can be used.

I like the idea of each house having its own "pet/beast" creature, but it kind of takes away the uniqueness of Ratskins and Wyrd Beastmasters (when/if they come back)

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Only stupid stupid men can be made fun of. Stupid men!!!

No, for instance it would also be a pretty stupid thing to say if it were a female employee doing the presentation saying House Goliath are violent dumbasses because they're men.

Charax thing is if everyone has only one pet/beasty the chances are the Wyrd beastmasters and the like will still be very unique because they'll have more then one or two in a gang and will have access to many different types.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We all know you can't make jokes about women. Ever.

Only stupid stupid men can be made fun of. Stupid men!!!

Exactly. Some people skins are way too thin

GW should never act like a cold corporate entity, except for when it should. What's so hard about it, I ask you?

 Overread wrote:
Charax thing is if everyone has only one pet/beasty the chances are the Wyrd beastmasters and the like will still be very unique because they'll have more then one or two in a gang and will have access to many different types.

I just hope that Wyrds can get more critters over time.

We used to include Carion Bats and Giant Spiders among the critters that Beastmasters could get (didn't hurt that the Warhammer Quest minis were perfect for that). So now that we've got bomb rats and Gator thingies, let's have the Beastmaster get access to all sorts of things.

 Hragged wrote:
No, for instance it would also be a pretty stupid thing to say if it were a female employee doing the presentation saying House Goliath are violent dumbasses because they're men.

'Cept you wouldn't have a twitter mob baying for your blood.

And Battle Bunnies said that they took it out of context, which is what started the mess in the first place (if you read the comments on that post before they deleted it, you'd've seen it starting).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
'Cept you wouldn't have a twitter mob baying for your blood.

Oh please, there are more people being offended by the people being offended by the joke, than people being offended by the joke.

What exactly IS an acceptable context for that kind of comment, anyway?

Charax wrote:
What exactly IS an acceptable context for that kind of comment, anyway?

To use it as an example of what not to say if you don't want to sound sexist?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Charax thing is if everyone has only one pet/beasty the chances are the Wyrd beastmasters and the like will still be very unique because they'll have more then one or two in a gang and will have access to many different types.

I just hope that Wyrds can get more critters over time.

We used to include Carion Bats and Giant Spiders among the critters that Beastmasters could get (didn't hurt that the Warhammer Quest minis were perfect for that). So now that we've got bomb rats and Gator thingies, let's have the Beastmaster get access to all sorts of things.

They could even have it that the Wyrd get to poach beasties from other armies as well as have their own unique choices to throw into the mix. Might be a bit tricky balance wise, but would be a neat mechanic that makes the under-world feel more unified

 Galas wrote:
Eschers are exotic and vindicative because they are women, and Goliath are blunt and violent because they are men.
They are both topic with legs, is not like everyone is like them both, whats the problem with that...

They are both topic with legs?

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Eschers are exotic and vindicative because they are women, and Goliath are blunt and violent because they are men.
They are both topic with legs, is not like everyone is like them both, whats the problem with that...

They are both topic with legs?

Sorry. They are cliches with legs. (Cliche in spanish is "tópico" so I did one of those "false friends" for "topic")

Stupid cognates. Always making it difficult to translate from a Romance language to a hybrid Romance/Germanic language.

 Galas wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Eschers are exotic and vindicative because they are women, and Goliath are blunt and violent because they are men.
They are both topic with legs, is not like everyone is like them both, whats the problem with that...

They are both topic with legs?

Sorry. They are cliches with legs. (Cliche in spanish is "tópico" so I did one of those "false friends" for "topic")

Ah alright, I was curious to see what you meant since I had no clue of that context.

But yeah this seems to be a non-issue that was blown up it seems.

 BrookM wrote:
From Facebook:

We want to apologise for the comments made about Escher and women at the Horus Heresy & Necromunda Weekender. We don’t believe in any such sentiment and certainly don’t condone it.

Games Workshop is founded on principles of fairness and respect and we’re committed to encouraging equality. Bias, in any shape or form‚ deliberate or accidental‚ is not consistent with our company's values or culture.

Which page?
[edit]
Sorry found it: https://www.facebook.com/ForgeWorldUK/posts/2051853171498619 [/edit]

1. Yeah what did they say exactly? Curious, saw the response today but didn't know the source of the issue -

2.) Was there any mention of the release window for the N17 awesomeness they showed from FW? I hope it's more than a drip drip as I would like to make a bulk order...

Thanks Dakka for reminding me why I don't play games with people I don't know.

 Crimson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
'Cept you wouldn't have a twitter mob baying for your blood.

Oh please, there are more people being offended by the people being offended by the joke, than people being offended by the joke.

What's important is for both sides to go away sure of their superiority over Those Other Dumb People.

 Hragged wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Only stupid stupid men can be made fun of. Stupid men!!!

No, for instance it would also be a pretty stupid thing to say if it were a female employee doing the presentation saying House Goliath are violent dumbasses because they're men.

Possibly, but how many of us men would give two anythings about it? I literally wound't even react. It's not worth my time.

Remember, offence is never given. It is only taken.

Now, these models do look amazing! When the game first came out I declined to buy into it due to my disappointment (at the time) with Shadespire. However, over time Shadespire grew on me and I eventually ended up buying in. I've had a lot of fun playing with family and friends. Now that I know more gangs, guilds and mercs are coming I am very excited. I find the idea of picking up a lot of these new terrain features quite tantalizing! Even more I might finally have a reason to get a Zone Mortalis board!

I haven't [Admittedly] read the whole thread, so I'd like to ask if anything has been said about campaigns?

New Heavy Stubber profile

Autopistol nerf was 3+ ammo now 4+

Shock Whip nerf, no longer a range weapon

Needle Rifle is now Str 5.

How much do boltguns cost?

Needle gun buff is nice

did shock whip need a nerf? I almost never got to use the range portion of it but it didnt seem particularly strong.

Hope chem thrower was made a little cheaper feels very expensive compared to taking any other escher weapon.

Swords and Chainswords! Happy days!

So happy with those.

 Togusa wrote:
Possibly, but how many of us men would give two anythings about it? I literally wound't even react. It's not worth my time.

That's kinda the point. It's not worth anyone's time, because someone said something about a woman, we're off to the identity politics races with the bleating idiocy of the Twitter mobz screaming 'misogyny!'. Anyway, I digress... and I actually agree with you.

Shock whip nerf is... odd. I've never used the ranged attack - it's rarely preferable to making melee attacks and you can usually get into melee if you could get into shooting range. I wonder if it was removed just for housekeeping? It was a weird rule.

Followup question: Does GW2 revisit the toxin rule? It's good for ranged (and with Str5 now!) but as we all know, unarmed attacks are strictly better than stiletto knives.

Hey, if y'all could *not* try to get another Necromunda thread locked because you can't discuss Lady Miniatures and attitudes around them without descending into 4chan-level stuff that would be fab. The comment was inappropriate, and the apology was swift and appropriate. That's all there is to it.

 Cannibal wrote:
Shock whip nerf is... odd.

We'll know if it was intentional or just another typo based on whether Versatile is still in the traits list

Any bets on if we finally find out what Fear does?

Rivet Cannon still the worst weapon ever, haha.

Hopefully Toxin is fixed in a FAQ, it just doesn't make sense as written

Can someone explain the issue with Toxin. I'm clearly misreading it (or not)?

Presumably this armoury would contain a new, updated traits list?