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2018/01/18 19:26:09
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
2018/01/18 19:29:26
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
To be fair, as much as I've been one of the voices speaking against the land raider, there's not a lot of good targets for it's quad las. Quad las and moving troops are both good, it's just too much to pay for that in an army already hurting for model count.
Waiting on rules for it, but the Caladius Annihilator may be the better anti-tank choice. Flying means it can't be tied up as easily and you're not paying for the Heavy Bolter (already covered better by Guardian Spears) or transport capacity for your longest ranged units.
2018/01/18 19:32:39
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Lanlaorn wrote: Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
Hmm, it's not over yet. Tzaangors getting eaten by battle shock I'd imagine. This guy doesn't seem to have take any axes though so Magnus is tanking a stupid amount.
I heard them say that too. Between that and Reecius saying that about GK it's just
Lanlaorn wrote: Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
Hmm, it's not over yet. Tzaangors getting eaten by battle shock I'd imagine. This guy doesn't seem to have take any axes though so Magnus is tanking a stupid amount.
'oh, but he's so much less durable now!' frekin liers.
2018/01/18 19:36:35
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Lanlaorn wrote: Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
Hmm, it's not over yet. Tzaangors getting eaten by battle shock I'd imagine. This guy doesn't seem to have take any axes though so Magnus is tanking a stupid amount.
'oh, but he's so much less durable now!' frekin liers.
Haha, yeah, he's still PLENTY durable to anything besides massed, long-range anti-tank.
2018/01/18 19:36:54
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Lanlaorn wrote: Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
Thats how it starts, you take 30% guard then 50% then you realize at some point that a single jetbike is not worth taking over a leman russ lmao. I am just guessing about costs btw fellas. I think the main appeal to me at least is the idea of having an all elite infantry army that fits into a shoebox so I can basically travel with it easily enough and still have some fun casual games. In normal circumstances people will just cherry pick the characters that pump their list the best. Probably gona see the Vexiller in just about every imperial soup army from now til 9th.
Aren't Thousand Sons an Anti-Elite and heavy Psyker army? Like... they couldn't be more counter-pick vs Custodes. But yeah, so much for the TS players crying that Custodes where gonna destroy TS just because this was a marketing game for Custodes.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2018/01/18 19:39:40
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
At least have the decency to not drop fething Magnus against an obvious "advertising army" of custodes. You'd think they would have made it fun Vs fun rather than the obvious serious list the Tzeench one was...
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2018/01/18 19:41:26
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
I don't think the Tzeentch List was a serious one, they where showing too a ton of different units. It has Magnus probably to shown the changes to Magnus. But even then, Magnus is Magnus.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2018/01/18 19:41:54
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Lanlaorn wrote: Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
Hmm, it's not over yet. Tzaangors getting eaten by battle shock I'd imagine. This guy doesn't seem to have take any axes though so Magnus is tanking a stupid amount.
I heard them say that too. Between that and Reecius saying that about GK it's just
It's not over, but it looks like Eddie brought a real list and Steve brought a 'fun' list meant to show off different unit types.
I did say at some point it came down to whether the thousand sons player was interested in playing a game or if he just wanted to bring Magnus instead.
2018/01/18 19:42:15
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Lanlaorn wrote: Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
Thats how it starts, you take 30% guard then 50% then you realize at some point that a single jetbike is not worth taking over a leman russ lmao. I am just guessing about costs btw fellas. I think the main appeal to me at least is the idea of having an all elite infantry army that fits into a shoebox so I can basically travel with it easily enough and still have some fun casual games. In normal circumstances people will just cherry pick the characters that pump their list the best. Probably gona see the Vexiller in just about every imperial soup army from now til 9th.
The custodians on foot still suck. Even with -1 to be hit and 4++, they are still slow guys with 3 attacks a piece that are marginally more deadly than a bullgryn. Now the 5++ invul banner with bullgryns ... I mean holy crap. Bullgryns with a native 3++ is just LOL. You can either strategem or psychic power into +1 to saves from there.
2018/01/18 19:43:06
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
At least have the decency to not drop fething Magnus against an obvious "advertising army" of custodes. You'd think they would have made it fun Vs fun rather than the obvious serious list the Tzeench one was...
Thats the problem, GW still thinks that the primarchs are fun for the game when in reality they do the opposite. I am not saying you can't beat them for the record, but in order to beat them you need to play the game in an entirely different way then GW wants to admit. All three basically ruin balance in pick up games.
Aren't Thousand Sons an Anti-Elite and heavy Psyker army? Like... they couldn't be more counter-pick vs Custodes. But yeah, so much for the TS players crying that Custodes where gonna destroy TS just because this was a marketing game for Custodes.
Nope they're a spam army now with tzangors
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2018/01/18 19:45:30
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Lanlaorn wrote: Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
Thats how it starts, you take 30% guard then 50% then you realize at some point that a single jetbike is not worth taking over a leman russ lmao. I am just guessing about costs btw fellas. I think the main appeal to me at least is the idea of having an all elite infantry army that fits into a shoebox so I can basically travel with it easily enough and still have some fun casual games. In normal circumstances people will just cherry pick the characters that pump their list the best. Probably gona see the Vexiller in just about every imperial soup army from now til 9th.
The custodians on foot still suck. Even with -1 to be hit and 4++, they are still slow guys with 3 attacks a piece that are marginally more deadly than a bullgryn. Now the 5++ invul banner with bullgryns ... I mean holy crap. Bullgryns with a native 3++ is just LOL. You can either strategem or psychic power into +1 to saves from there.
Yea, you could already do this with celestine though, I just use my Bulgryn with a primaris psycher and I have yet to lose that unit. I personally wouldn't pull that as I don't need to but I can see that adding another way to skin the cat for inperial soup armies in tournaments. I wonder what twisted combo appears at the LVO under the radar.
Lanlaorn wrote: Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
Hmm, it's not over yet. Tzaangors getting eaten by battle shock I'd imagine. This guy doesn't seem to have take any axes though so Magnus is tanking a stupid amount.
I heard them say that too. Between that and Reecius saying that about GK it's just
It's not over, but it looks like Eddie brought a real list and Steve brought a 'fun' list meant to show off different unit types.
I did say at some point it came down to whether the thousand sons player was interested in playing a game or if he just wanted to bring Magnus instead.
And you seem to have been prescient on that.
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2018/01/18 19:46:59
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
At least have the decency to not drop fething Magnus against an obvious "advertising army" of custodes. You'd think they would have made it fun Vs fun rather than the obvious serious list the Tzeench one was...
Thats the problem, GW still thinks that the primarchs are fun for the game when in reality they do the opposite. I am not saying you can't beat them for the record, but in order to beat them you need to play the game in an entirely different way then GW wants to admit. All three basically ruin balance in pick up games.
the bigger issues with primarchs will come when there are 10+ of them running around. Hope ya'll are excited.
2018/01/18 19:47:31
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Lanlaorn wrote: Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
Thats how it starts, you take 30% guard then 50% then you realize at some point that a single jetbike is not worth taking over a leman russ lmao. I am just guessing about costs btw fellas. I think the main appeal to me at least is the idea of having an all elite infantry army that fits into a shoebox so I can basically travel with it easily enough and still have some fun casual games. In normal circumstances people will just cherry pick the characters that pump their list the best. Probably gona see the Vexiller in just about every imperial soup army from now til 9th.
The custodians on foot still suck. Even with -1 to be hit and 4++, they are still slow guys with 3 attacks a piece that are marginally more deadly than a bullgryn. Now the 5++ invul banner with bullgryns ... I mean holy crap. Bullgryns with a native 3++ is just LOL. You can either strategem or psychic power into +1 to saves from there.
Yea, you could already do this with celestine though, I just use my Bulgryn with a primaris psycher and I have yet to lose that unit. I personally wouldn't pull that as I don't need to but I can see that adding another way to skin the cat for inperial soup armies in tournaments. I wonder what twisted combo appears at the LVO under the radar.
Chaos is the army I would ACTUALLY be worried about at the LVO. Their soup is way worse with the daemon dex out.
2018/01/18 19:49:05
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Cephalobeard wrote: I'm not complaining that Custodes got wrecked, I'm just reporting that it happened. Magnus and Mortal wounds are kind of the exact anti-custodes.
It's swinging back a little, I guess? Tzaans got battle shocked and chopped, Vortex Beast is down and Landraider is out of combat, but Magnus is solo'ing a huge chunk of the Custodes army.
2018/01/18 19:51:46
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Cephalobeard wrote: I'm not complaining that Custodes got wrecked, I'm just reporting that it happened. Magnus and Mortal wounds are kind of the exact anti-custodes.
It's swinging back a little, I guess? Tzaans got battle shocked and chopped, Vortex Beast is down and Landraider is out of combat, but Magnus is solo'ing a huge chunk of the Custodes army.
Magnus is also down to 2W.
2018/01/18 19:55:47
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Cephalobeard wrote: I'm not complaining that Custodes got wrecked, I'm just reporting that it happened. Magnus and Mortal wounds are kind of the exact anti-custodes.
It's swinging back a little, I guess? Tzaans got battle shocked and chopped, Vortex Beast is down and Landraider is out of combat, but Magnus is solo'ing a huge chunk of the Custodes army.
Magnus is also down to 2W.
Oh that's big! I thought he was at 12. I can't make out the wound dice on my screen. And now the stream seems frozen?
2018/01/18 19:59:53
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
At least have the decency to not drop fething Magnus against an obvious "advertising army" of custodes. You'd think they would have made it fun Vs fun rather than the obvious serious list the Tzeench one was...
Thats the problem, GW still thinks that the primarchs are fun for the game when in reality they do the opposite. I am not saying you can't beat them for the record, but in order to beat them you need to play the game in an entirely different way then GW wants to admit. All three basically ruin balance in pick up games.
the bigger issues with primarchs will come when there are 10+ of them running around. Hope ya'll are excited.
I personally would like to see them restricted for narrative play where they should be OP. But I am sure I'll get attacked on that view lol.
Lanlaorn wrote: Lol, the commentators made it to the beginning of turn 2 before beginning making excuses for the Custodes performance and saying "well you really should ally in some Astra Militarum with them".
Yea, of course every elite army should just play Guard instead.
Thats how it starts, you take 30% guard then 50% then you realize at some point that a single jetbike is not worth taking over a leman russ lmao. I am just guessing about costs btw fellas. I think the main appeal to me at least is the idea of having an all elite infantry army that fits into a shoebox so I can basically travel with it easily enough and still have some fun casual games. In normal circumstances people will just cherry pick the characters that pump their list the best. Probably gona see the Vexiller in just about every imperial soup army from now til 9th.
The custodians on foot still suck. Even with -1 to be hit and 4++, they are still slow guys with 3 attacks a piece that are marginally more deadly than a bullgryn. Now the 5++ invul banner with bullgryns ... I mean holy crap. Bullgryns with a native 3++ is just LOL. You can either strategem or psychic power into +1 to saves from there.
Yea, you could already do this with celestine though, I just use my Bulgryn with a primaris psycher and I have yet to lose that unit. I personally wouldn't pull that as I don't need to but I can see that adding another way to skin the cat for inperial soup armies in tournaments. I wonder what twisted combo appears at the LVO under the radar.
Chaos is the army I would ACTUALLY be worried about at the LVO. Their soup is way worse with the daemon dex out.
Not disagreeing with the fact that chaos soup is incredible in the slightest, but I will say a FAQ of the demon codex is going to kill most of the problems it made. At least thats something I am willing to bank on.
WrentheFaceless wrote: Well unless custodies are even stronger than we're lead to believe, they look like they're boned.
You're kidding? They seem fine so far. We'll have to wait to see if they actually get into the tippy-top tier but they're pretty obviously going to be in the "above average" category based on these reveals and the leaks we have so far.
19 models in 2k in edition of hordes rule does look pretty grim even outside this game. It's still just 2+/4++ at best. On 19 models. In edition that favours hordes from the get-go. In edition where durability isn't really about T and save but about # of models. IG trooper=more durable than terminator. If custodes are to be survivable for their points poor normal terminators are going to pale in comparison.
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2018/01/18 20:13:10
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
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