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Found this site. Is it legitimate? They list a bunch of oop FW stuff that interest me a great deal but I don't want to get ripped off.

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I mean the price is certainly great for their stuff... it's gotta be recasts, right? I mean they are selling the GW store anniversary Primaris Captain for $15.00... which you can't even buy anywhere other than a store on one particular day or Ebay.
That's always a gamble. Might be worth trying something cheap to see the quality.

No, it's a recaster. Which is illegal and not allowed on this website. Another thread asked about this website and got shut down.

Doing some further research it seems that it's from Russia. So most likley recast. Which doesn't bother me as long as the price is good.


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 anyname121 wrote:
No, it's a recaster. Which is illegal and not allowed on this website. Another thread asked about this website and got shut down.

OOPS! sorry mods. Please delete.

Does anyone else think it's weird that every other day we have a thread going "Hey guys, i found this website www. recaster-site .com . Are these good?"

I didn't realize it was recast, they don't advertise it. I found out through FB. I had to use my gf's account since I don't have one.

 chimeara wrote:
I didn't realize it was recast, they don't advertise it. I found out through FB. I had to use my gf's account since I don't have one.

I am not saying anything about you specifically. I am saying I have seen at LEAST 3 threads in 10 days that followed the same template as yours while I haven't seen a thread like this in over a year before hand.

1 is a mistake.

2 is a coincidence.

3 is a pattern.

Whats happening?

Again. Not you. Maybe more recasters are showing up. Maybe there is a boom in their businesses. Maybe they have had some kind of advertising push that is getting them way more attention and making them way easier to find. I don't know. But the repetition is curious.

 Lance845 wrote:
Does anyone else think it's weird that every other day we have a thread going "Hey guys, i found this website www. recaster-site .com . Are these good?"

It's likely that its accidental and possibly not as common as you think, but you've noticed it so it stands out more so to you. Also as we near Christmas its a general period of increase buying so chances are that causes a bit of a spike.

Also many people are used to products being sold by multiple retailers today and often multiple websites. Forgeworld is actually the rarer case today where the product is pretty much just sold new through their website alone.

Does GW come down on these re-casters? I bumped into a couple things on e-bay that were probable (and in one case, very obviously) recasts and had wondered how long they were for this world.

M.

 Infantryman wrote:
Does GW come down on these re-casters? I bumped into a couple things on e-bay that were probable (and in one case, very obviously) recasts and had wondered how long they were for this world.

M.

GW most likely does, but most recasting companies likely expect it. So its a bit like whack-a-mole. You hit one down and it pops up again. That the companies are often based overseas from the UK likely also makes it more expensive for GW to issue formal legal challenge and the countries that some of the recasters are based in might even make seeking resolution very difficult in itself.

 Overread wrote:

 Infantryman wrote:
Does GW come down on these re-casters?

That the companies are often based overseas from the UK makes it more expensive for GW to issue formal legal challenge and the countries that some of the recasters are based in might even make seeking resolution very difficult in itself.

Yes, getting at someone based in China or Russia is just about impossible. Getting through the Russian bureaucracy would require enlisting local legal aid and the recast site would have to be really hitting GW's sales for that to be worth pursuing. As for China, well, how hard can it be for a recasting operation to remain undetected (by the authorities) in a country where you can find entire fake Apple stores? Granted, those generally sell real - smuggled - Apple products, but if you can have 30 fake stores in a city with 1 real and 4 licensed dealers...

Spetulhu wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Infantryman wrote:
Does GW come down on these re-casters?

That the companies are often based overseas from the UK makes it more expensive for GW to issue formal legal challenge and the countries that some of the recasters are based in might even make seeking resolution very difficult in itself.

Yes, getting at someone based in China or Russia is just about impossible. Getting through the Russian bureaucracy would require enlisting local legal aid and the recast site would have to be really hitting GW's sales for that to be worth pursuing. As for China, well, how hard can it be for a recasting operation to remain undetected (by the authorities) in a country where you can find entire fake Apple stores? Granted, those generally sell real - smuggled - Apple products, but if you can have 30 fake stores in a city with 1 real and 4 licensed dealers...

It's my (poor) understanding that China doesn't agree to international copyright laws within their own country. So whilst exported goods should adhere to it; internally they don't. As a result they can rip off nearly any international copyright item they want, though I think once done the "new" invention/development then has copyright protected internal to China. I'm sure its more complex than that.

That said, shutting down recasters and not having them just pop-up again with a new website is going to be tough. As gamers we can do our part by dissuading people from supporting recasters. Whilst we might all want cheaper and cheaper goods; recasters are typically leaching money out of the hobby; pure profit for them with little input besides copying the castings. Which means sure the gamer gets a cheaper miniature, but the company and associated infrastructure that supports it and supports the hobby doesn't get anything from the purchase.

 Overread wrote:

Spetulhu wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Infantryman wrote:
Does GW come down on these re-casters?

That the companies are often based overseas from the UK makes it more expensive for GW to issue formal legal challenge and the countries that some of the recasters are based in might even make seeking resolution very difficult in itself.

Yes, getting at someone based in China or Russia is just about impossible. Getting through the Russian bureaucracy would require enlisting local legal aid and the recast site would have to be really hitting GW's sales for that to be worth pursuing. As for China, well, how hard can it be for a recasting operation to remain undetected (by the authorities) in a country where you can find entire fake Apple stores? Granted, those generally sell real - smuggled - Apple products, but if you can have 30 fake stores in a city with 1 real and 4 licensed dealers...

It's my (poor) understanding that China doesn't agree to international copyright laws within their own country. So whilst exported goods should adhere to it; internally they don't. As a result they can rip off nearly any international copyright item they want, though I think once done the "new" invention/development then has copyright protected internal to China. I'm sure its more complex than that.

That's how other companies in China are able to exist, such as Wish.com. they rip off artist work and other things and sell it as their own. That site is the devil.

 Overread wrote:

 Infantryman wrote:
Does GW come down on these re-casters? I bumped into a couple things on e-bay that were probable (and in one case, very obviously) recasts and had wondered how long they were for this world.

M.

GW most likely does, but most recasting companies likely expect it. So its a bit like whack-a-mole. You hit one down and it pops up again. That the companies are often based overseas from the UK likely also makes it more expensive for GW to issue formal legal challenge and the countries that some of the recasters are based in might even make seeking resolution very difficult in itself.

GW can't do anything to a company in the Russian Federation. At best, they can get the recaster's website to be removed from ISP's within the United Kingdom (and usually the US and a few other western countries). It's nothing to change the name of your website and re-list it. Which is probably what is happening here.

These recasters only exist because people buy from them. Yesterday, it was China. Today, it's the Russian Federation. Tomorrow? It just might be a 3-D printer sitting on your desk...

Lance845 wrote:Does anyone else think it's weird that every other day we have a thread going "Hey guys, i found this website www. recaster-site .com . Are these good?"

Not at all. With so many new people coming into the hobby it's natural they wouldn't know. Also just because people are in the hobby for a long time doesn't mean they don't know what is legit or not online. So people do their homework now and make sure before they make on line purchases. I know I don't trust on line shopping, so if I saw something of course I would come here and ask. Especially after reading how a few "reputable" companies have become lax in their orders.

Which ones?

Now this makes me think the only way I'd ever get an Aquila Lander would be through a recast. Probably need to be extra skeptical of those...

M.