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I really don't have anything against the Stormcast faction, I've actually grown to like their fluff. I'd just like to see something of the other factions and alliances get a chance to grow. I'm anxious to see how some of the legacy factions fit into the AoS lore, and I feel like focusing so much on a few armies has really slowed the process down.
Alright, well we're starting to drag this thread off topic, so let's just go back to speculating at the interpretation of dreams and discussing that cool new champion they just teased!
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress 2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
pm713 wrote: So instead of focusing entirely on one army they were supposed to focus entirely on it's three subfactions? That's not really better.
You forget that we have some subfactions that, as of right now, consist of two or three units.
Shadowblades, for example, are Dark Riders and Assassins. Nothing else.
I'm, personally, thinking that's why it has taken so long for more books to come out. It seems like their intentions were to keep up minibooks and campaigns to roll out new armies rather than just rolling out new armies.
But with the reaction that happened? They've gone back and tried to make "complete" armies to release all at once instead of as part of campaigns/lore advancement.
auticus wrote: Damn so not really a campaign or anything. Story advancing is cool though.
Why does the story advancing make it not a campaign?
campaign like firestorm set or realmgate series, the story advancing has "in story" campaign, but not a physical product like blightwar set or the other two.
pm713 wrote: So instead of focusing entirely on one army they were supposed to focus entirely on it's three subfactions? That's not really better.
You forget that we have some subfactions that, as of right now, consist of two or three units.
Shadowblades, for example, are Dark Riders and Assassins. Nothing else.
I'm, personally, thinking that's why it has taken so long for more books to come out. It seems like their intentions were to keep up minibooks and campaigns to roll out new armies rather than just rolling out new armies.
But with the reaction that happened? They've gone back and tried to make "complete" armies to release all at once instead of as part of campaigns/lore advancement.
The reaction is probably because a "subfaction" of two units just makes things overly complicated and reinforces the idea GW split things for copyright. As well making three subfactions just for Stormcast that have a decent amount of units comes across just as badly as one big army. Both get too much focus.
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auticus wrote: Damn so not really a campaign or anything. Story advancing is cool though.
Why does the story advancing make it not a campaign?
campaign like firestorm set or realmgate series, the story advancing has "in story" campaign, but not a physical product like blightwar set or the other two.
I meant campaign as in a campaign book. A physical campaign product.
auticus wrote: Damn so not really a campaign or anything. Story advancing is cool though.
Why does the story advancing make it not a campaign?
campaign like firestorm set or realmgate series, the story advancing has "in story" campaign, but not a physical product like blightwar set or the other two.
I meant campaign as in a campaign book. A physical campaign product.
so interesting bit of lore dropped in a white dwarf leak; they finally explained how undeath is different to nurgle, saying that the magic to make undead things leaves beings in a state of stasis instead of allowing them to decay and make new things via demonic rot. so the magic that binds such undead things allows nothing new to grow from corpses, only withering and a transformation to such magic.
The fantasy side has never had Nurgle zombies, that's always been an exclusively 40k thing. That's why I keep trying to tell people there won't be AoS poxwalkers.
NinthMusketeer wrote: The fantasy side has never had Nurgle zombies, that's always been an exclusively 40k thing. That's why I keep trying to tell people there won't be AoS poxwalkers.
oh yea, I guess they don't! okay no problem.
now what is the difference between khorne and vampires in regards for the blood lust?
Tiger9gamer wrote: so interesting bit of lore dropped in a white dwarf leak; they finally explained how undeath is different to nurgle, saying that the magic to make undead things leaves beings in a state of stasis instead of allowing them to decay and make new things via demonic rot. so the magic that binds such undead things allows nothing new to grow from corpses, only withering and a transformation to such magic.
here are the pictures from january's white dwarf, which explains the concept.
Thats been around for quite some time - its one of the reasons that the undead have fought Chaos - especially the Vampires - who also have the they need mortals with actual blood in their veins not pus, maggots or something else (this was also previously why they were not keen on Nagash killing Everything - Nagash of course does not care and if everythig is dead and in his service, souless and unchanging - Choas is no longer a threat to him.
now what is the difference between khorne and vampires in regards for the blood lust
Vampires feed on blood to "live" - they often enjoy it but they must to a greater or lesser extent do so (well except if you drink the blood of a Dragon but thats rare), the actual drinking of blood is secondary for Khornate worshipers - who are about the killing itself - skulls for the Skull throne. Khorne wants blood to flow - he cares not from where it comes or if its drunk or not.
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Tiger9gamer wrote: so interesting bit of lore dropped in a white dwarf leak; they finally explained how undeath is different to nurgle, saying that the magic to make undead things leaves beings in a state of stasis instead of allowing them to decay and make new things via demonic rot. so the magic that binds such undead things allows nothing new to grow from corpses, only withering and a transformation to such magic.
here are the pictures from january's white dwarf, which explains the concept.
Thats been around for quite some time - its one of the reasons that the undead have fought Chaos - especially the Vampires - who also have the they need mortals with actual blood in their veins not pus, maggots or something else (this was also previously why they were not keen on Nagash killing Everything - Nagash of course does not care and if everythig is dead and in his service, souless and unchanging - Choas is no longer a threat to him.
now what is the difference between khorne and vampires in regards for the blood lust
Vampires feed on blood to "live" - they often enjoy it but they must to a greater or lesser extent do so (well except if you drink the blood of a Dragon but thats rare), the actual drinking of blood is secondary for Khornate worshipers - who are about the killing itself - skulls for the Skull throne. Khorne wants blood to flow - he cares not from where it comes or if its drunk or not.
okay, that helps me also, seeing as i'm not as well versed in the AoS fluff as I am 40k. Thanks again, as I couldn't really find that explanation on a wiki
Pretty much what Morden said. Drinking blood is symbolic or ceremonial for Khorne worshipers; Khorne wants the blood spilled but even in that case 'blood' is somewhat symbolic for mortals/creatures being slain. Vampires literally drink blood to survive, but it's also a drug that they can over indulge on and go crazy (this was the old fluff for Varghulfs; vampires that did not control their bloodlust), I believe vargheists are the eventual fate for blood-bingers nowadays. For vampires that do control themselves they need less blood as they get older; the likes of Mannfred or Neferata may very well not need to at all.
The old fluff involved them being entombed specifically within the Von Carstein catacombs where warpstone did indeed mutate them. Now they are described as vampires that "have lost the last shreds of humanity".
Warpstone is still a thing, along with realmstone. Realmstone is basically warpstone without chaos corruption.
Do you think Nagash accidently handed the chief architect the blueprints upside down, and nobody dared ask him if it was supposed to look like that when completed?
Mangod wrote: Do you think Nagash accidently handed the chief architect the blueprints upside down, and nobody dared ask him if it was supposed to look like that when completed?
Whatever the boss wants. If he wants floating black pyramid that's upside down, then that is what he's going to get.
Mangod wrote: Do you think Nagash accidently handed the chief architect the blueprints upside down, and nobody dared ask him if it was supposed to look like that when completed?
Whatever the boss wants. If he wants floating black pyramid that's upside down, then that is what he's going to get.
So on Facebook they were asking questions and said that new model lines are planned for AoS this year. Death of some sort is obvious. What could the second be? Dare we dream of a third?
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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