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New article up. Lord of Blights looks freaking awesome. This is already looking way better IMHO than Death Guard. I'm all but sold on this as my new army, there'd have to be like some majorly cool death faction to compete with it (and that would mainly be because hardly anyone around here plays Death). Already feeling a lot more excited about AOS than I have about 40k.

I'm still working my way through the Chaos Gods for my armies. I'll be starting my Tzeentch Arcanites when my kits come in tomorrow, but can't wait to start on the Rotbringers once I have a playable Tzeentch army painted.

Maybe there'll be a proper Poxwalker kit, so you can kit them out for AoS OR 40k depending on personal preference?

Poxwalkers aren't ever going to be in AoS; zombies are covered by undead armies on the fantasy side. The current poxwalker sculpts are also totally unsuited for AoS in aesthetic. I still think pestigors are on the way though.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Poxwalkers aren't ever going to be in AoS; zombies are covered by undead armies on the fantasy side. The current poxwalker sculpts are also totally unsuited for AoS in aesthetic. I still think pestigors are on the way though.

I hope so but the reply I got from GW was the typical "We haven't said anything about that yet" vague way of saying no.

I'm not holding my breath for pestigors. At least for this trip.

A beastmen book would be sweet though.

Day 5 article up. Pusgoyle Blightlords, aka Blightkings on Blight Drones. Option to make one a hero, which while cool means you'll be 1 short for Matched Play likely unless you buy additional boxes, which is super lame. I really hate that approach because it screws around with Matched Play; by now GW has to know that 99% of people are playing Matched Play, so things like this is just BS by making you pay for 6 and only getting 5 because you chose to make one guy a hero.

The pic had two. If the pic had two I thing the box will have two too.

I'm not gonna get bitted again like with the Plague Marines, hoping for a 10-man box.
So basically with two boxes you could have a 3 man unit + the Hero.

The same problem happens with the Eater Courts and the Crypth big dude box of 3 models, where you can make one a hero.

Yeah, difference was that the FEC box you often ran multiple heroes, I bought several boxes and was able to do 1 of each hero and then like 6 of each type.

Not sure if it will be 2 or 3 in a box, 2 would feel better only because of that, but then the question is if the unit size would also be 2.

Have we seen a warscroll yet? This may be a unit you can take as a single model.

How hard is it to stick a lord of plagues or kit bash some unholy amalgamation and toss him on a spare drone? Boom there is your other pusgoyle, so you can make the Lord of affliction and the other pusgoyle from the box of (likely) 2.

The rotbringers still have a lot of stuff in Finecast don’t they? Think that’ll be kept on or will they ditch them? Because they are decent models. It’s not their fault they’re made out of a crap material.

Actually, could it be possible to convert Finecast into plastic in the future?

 Future War Cultist wrote:
The rotbringers still have a lot of stuff in Finecast don’t they? Think that’ll be kept on or will they ditch them? Because they are decent models. It’s not their fault they’re made out of a crap material.

Actually, could it be possible to convert Finecast into plastic in the future?

Finecast is actually much, much improved these days.

That said, there's not much in Finecast.
There's 11 items right now for Rotbringers. 3 aren't plastic. The Harbinger of Decay(resin lord on horseback), Festus the Leechlord(resin), and the Rotbringers Sorcerer(it doesn't say what material he is--might even still be selling in metal) are those 3.

Tzeentch's finecast models (not sure what the were called originally, but now they're the Curseling and Fatemaster) carried over to the Arcanites, so I'd expect Festus, Harbinger, and Rotbringer Sorcerer to be in this book. And yes. The last few Finecast model's I've bought were much higher quality than some of the older stuff. I still greatly prefer plastic, but it's not as bad as it once was.

GW could neatly avoid the 5/6 unit problem by giving AoS actual points instead of the power levels. Ya know, like min size unit of 3 costs X, with additional models at +Y...

I'll be happy the day PPC isn't needed anymore, if it ever comes.

I think a full points system like that might require a full edition change with different loadouts listed separately on warscrolls like they are in 40k. Could be wrong, though.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 auticus wrote:
The new spells they teased are nice.

They specificially mentioned blight kings getting a points drop AND there's a spell that every 6 you roll to hit is an additional mortal wound caused. And with blight kings... well thats D6 mortal wounds it was hinted at.

Oh my. Thats just foul.

It would be one mortal + d6 wound rolls, thankfully. But I'm sure you know as well as I that blightkings need a small points increase, not a reduction.

Still super excited for the battletome and having tons of options! I'll certainly be frantically updating my nurgle army thread for a couple months.

You really think blightkings need a points INCREASE?? I wouldn't be unhappy if they stayed the same.. but I defintley think they are priced a bit high for their effectiveness. I know they are dropping, but I hope they drop to 150/160. That's the sweet spot IMO.

That reminds me, Ninth I was going to ask what makes you think they're undercosted? I haven't seen many Blightkings in top tournament lists. Just curious what your reasoning is.

Well, theres a difference between what a unit if blightkings is worth and what each blightking in a unit is worth. I'd say a blightking is worth about 35 pts. However, their putrescent discharge ability is unit wide and doesn't scale with size. That, combined with other minor factors, means blightkings are only really going to be taken at minimum size. Accordingly the point cost should represent the way they are actually used, meaning about 200 points.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Finecast is actually much, much improved these days.

That said, there's not much in Finecast.
There's 11 items right now for Rotbringers. 3 aren't plastic. The Harbinger of Decay(resin lord on horseback), Festus the Leechlord(resin), and the Rotbringers Sorcerer(it doesn't say what material he is--might even still be selling in metal) are those 3.

Can't speak for all but my Rotbringers Sorcerer from last year was finecast.

Whats going to be fun is that the new drones with the mortals riding them can make the hero. Which means if you go that route your unit will be a model short since there is no way to pay just for one model at a time.

ie... box comes with three models. But I use one to make the hero. Pay for the unit of three but only have two models.

 auticus wrote:


ie... box comes with three models. But I use one to make the hero. Pay for the unit of three but only have two models.

Judging by the box, it will come with two models only. It makes less sense compared to older monstrous cavalry kits, but the new dracothian guard comes with 2 models aswell, are listed at the same price and one could be a hero... Soo you'd be needing 2 boxes at minimum If you want to make the hero (80 quid, 110 euro etc...(

We'll have to see what the matched play profile looks like. You may be able to take Blightlords one model at a time.

My bad. I just saw that they will likely be in a box of 2. :-/

 auticus wrote:
My bad. I just saw that they will likely be in a box of 2. :-/

"Likely" = "Confirmed via the photos and product description".

It's not as bad as you're making it out to be. They're the same price as Dracothian Guards but without the multiple unit build that DGs have. Two boxes of the Blightlords nets you 3 Blightlords and the character who apparently buffs them.

If the unit comes in multiples of 2 that's actually worse. If they can be taken individually then there isn't a problem. Dracothian guard can be taken individually on the warscroll but are bought in pairs in matched play.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
If the unit comes in multiples of 2 that's actually worse. If they can be taken individually then there isn't a problem. Dracothian guard can be taken individually on the warscroll but are bought in pairs in matched play.

I feel like I'm missing something here.

Are you trying to say there's a rule in play, right now, that you buy additional models for a unit based on the minimum size? Because I can't find anything saying that is the case.

You may have missed part of the conversation. The Pusgoyle Blightlords come in boxes of two. One can be built as a hero unit. The problem is, if the minimum unit size for Matched Play is two models, you can either build the hero and have one Blightlord left over, or build both as Blightlords and not have a hero. If the minimum unit size is one model, though, there won't be an issue. I'm mostly just trying to encourage people to wait until we see the rules before we panic.

 EnTyme wrote:
You may have missed part of the conversation. The Pusgoyle Blightlords come in boxes of two. One can be built as a hero unit. The problem is, if the minimum unit size for Matched Play is two models, you can either build the hero and have one Blightlord left over, or build both as Blightlords and not have a hero. If the minimum unit size is one model, though, there won't be an issue. I'm mostly just trying to encourage people to wait until we see the rules before we panic.

I didn't miss that. I literally addressed that in my reply to Auticus.

Ninth's comment seems to be more that Guard can only be bought in pairs and that's what is causing confusion for me. Did I miss something where they set it up like 40k's stupid nonsense of buying multiples?

He means that the physical kit comes in twos. AoS has basically used 40k's power level system since it launched, so in Matched Play, you buy models in blocks. If the minimum unit size for Blightlords is 2 models, you can take units of 2, 4, 6, etc. With two in the physical kit, if you decide to build the hero variant, you're left with an odd number. If you want to use that single model in a Blightlords unit, you would have to pay full price for half a unit "block".