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Indeed, the lack of trigger fingers on the Alpha Legion termies and the Varagyr as a whole are a huge letdown.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Indeed, the lack of trigger fingers on the Alpha Legion termies and the Varagyr as a whole are a huge letdown.

I had to check that. I did. It appears FW are getting close to phoning these in :(

 zedmeister wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Indeed, the lack of trigger fingers on the Alpha Legion termies and the Varagyr as a whole are a huge letdown.

I had to check that. I did. It appears FW are getting close to phoning these in :(

TBF the only bad thing about that model is the weapon hand

Is that a volkite charger, or another variant?

Based on the book artwork for the wolf terminator it seems like it would have been better as a Sehkmet style upgrade kit. New backhalf of the cataphractii torso with a fur cape, new loin-cloth piece with wolf teeth, and a left arm with chain axes. Mix and match with the plastic kit and you're done. Instead we wind up with this.
One of the other issues with both them and the Alpha Legion terminator above is the shoulder pads. By casting them as a single piece they're really losing that stacked look that the plastic and original resin kits had. The wolf termies in particular look really bad, more offset rather than stacked, and they don't even go near the top of the center armor piece.

I HOPE that model is just a test model and not the finished concept :/

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:


TBF the only bad thing about that model is the weapon hand

Oh don't get me wrong, it's a great model and I'll be getting some. The apparent lack of what should be the trigger is lazy. Though at least you can see the pistol grip in the hand...


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 BrookM wrote:
Is that a volkite charger, or another variant?

Charger. Can't wait to see the conversion beamers!

Ugh.

I missed that too.

Please tell me that FW knows about this, and will be fixing the Alpha termis too now?

Don't be daft, there is obviously just a neural link for firing the gun.

 zedmeister wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:


TBF the only bad thing about that model is the weapon hand

Oh don't get me wrong, it's a great model and I'll be getting some. The apparent lack of what should be the trigger is lazy. Though at least you can see the pistol grip in the hand...

Its very lazy, which seems to be their SOP for some of their newer stuff, which is unfortunate. But I mean, at least its not Space Wolf lazy.

The actual Varangyr and Praetor models do come with handles (very plain ones that were clearly added quickly, but they’re there).

Oh no they lazy pasted those hands onto the alpha legion guy too?

laaaaammmeee

It's not quite as bad as you can see the pistol grip in his hand but, yeah, no trigger is still...bad.

 ImAGeek wrote:
The actual Varangyr and Praetor models do come with handles (very plain ones that were clearly added quickly, but they’re there).

Its not so much the handles as it is the fact they dont have hands modeled to show the fact they are holding a weapon properly compared to say, any of the others. that combined with the general , lets say amateurish (I mean hey, still better than anything I could sculpt), sculpts. The Upside down bolters... It all comes together in a rather negative way compared the the usual quality many of us are used to and even expect from something of that price.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Indeed, the lack of trigger fingers on the Alpha Legion termies and the Varagyr as a whole are a huge letdown.

I had to check that. I did. It appears FW are getting close to phoning these in :(

TBF the only bad thing about that model is the weapon hand

The whole anatomy is absolutely terrible. That of course is a problem with most terminator models, but it is particularly noticeable here. Marines desperately need new terminators with similar proportions than the new Custodes plastic terminators; they actually look like that there could be a human shaped person in them.

 Alpharius wrote:
It's not quite as bad as you can see the pistol grip in his hand but, yeah, no trigger is still...bad.

It reminds me of the earliest marine models where the hands were actually like that lol.

Just pop this here

See MOD post here :

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/630/747748.page#9827583

Reds8n

 zedmeister wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Indeed, the lack of trigger fingers on the Alpha Legion termies and the Varagyr as a whole are a huge letdown.

I had to check that. I did. It appears FW are getting close to phoning these in :(

I honestly don't see why anyone would buy these sculpts over just converting normal Terminators. They're not incredibly well designed or unique and border on busy - while the proportions look bad - something FW has usually been good at.

FW is more hit and miss now than ever before, I found everything space wolf related except their primarch to be pretty horrid. There are still some good sculptors there but I kinda miss Skomorowski, but the excitement and momentum behind the HH series dropped off real quick after the first couple years. It doesn't feel exciting anymore, it's gotten very stale. All the Necromunda stuff is the opposite, almost all of it is great.

 Thargrim wrote:
FW is more hit and miss now than ever before, I found everything space wolf related except their primarch to be pretty horrid. There are still some good sculptors there but I kinda miss Skomorowski, but the excitement and momentum behind the HH series dropped off real quick after the first couple years. It doesn't feel exciting anymore, it's gotten very stale. All the Necromunda stuff is the opposite, almost all of it is great.

Thats what happens when you are releasing HH stuff for years and years and years. Necromunda, as you said, is new and fresh. And probably FW is overcrowded. They are what, 4-5 guys? And they are doing HH's stuff, and now specialist games too. I believe what they are doing now with HH's is a "compromise" job, at least with the models that aren't very special like Primarchs are, etc... they are putting out there HH marines because... well, they have to. The problem with that is,, as others posters have said, FW can't be "good enough" when they are asking the prices they are asking. And is not like FW is the best resin producer out there allready, they have a ton of competition.

I'm not often one to really get gakky about the quality of a FW sculpt but those Space wolf models are atrocious. the fur has no realistic texture and the FACES! WTF! it's nearly as bad as the World eaters rampagers models which were awful,

I’m not a fan of the Space Wolves stuff, but I do really like the Lernean.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Just pop this here

Looks like Forgeworld need to get their act together:



Either that or a lot of people have complained

 Galas wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
FW is more hit and miss now than ever before, I found everything space wolf related except their primarch to be pretty horrid. There are still some good sculptors there but I kinda miss Skomorowski, but the excitement and momentum behind the HH series dropped off real quick after the first couple years. It doesn't feel exciting anymore, it's gotten very stale. All the Necromunda stuff is the opposite, almost all of it is great.

Thats what happens when you are releasing HH stuff for years and years and years. Necromunda, as you said, is new and fresh. And probably FW is overcrowded. They are what, 4-5 guys? And they are doing HH's stuff, and now specialist games too. I believe what they are doing now with HH's is a "compromise" job, at least with the models that aren't very special like Primarchs are, etc... they are putting out there HH marines because... well, they have to. The problem with that is,, as others posters have said, FW can't be "good enough" when they are asking the prices they are asking. And is not like FW is the best resin producer out there allready, they have a ton of competition.

What happened with recruitment for new staff to deal with specialist games? Nobody interested?

The missing weapon grips is an issue ... the SW termies look horrible ... but the AL termies are very nice and what I normally expect from FW. I will not touch the Varagyr but definitely buy the Lernean Terminators.


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- Necromunda Hired Guns
- House Vyronii Transfer Sheet

The Arkurian-pattern Stormblade is back!

If only their profile were sucky...

They really can't decide do they wanna go in cc or shoot and as result are mediocre at both. I mean, axes? Do people actually bother with this? S5 and hitting last? Might as well invest in power fist. Volkite, won't really do much more compared to combibolters and you pay for it.
Lets hope for redisign i nnew book.
Compared to rest of specialist legion terminators, they really are bland and mediocre at best.
Nice models though.

YES. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Necromunda-Hired-Guns-2018

£20 for three!

beast_gts wrote:
The Arkurian-pattern Stormblade is back!

If only the rules for it weren't such utter trash, maybe then it could stick around for a while. It's a cool model but 8th edition has not been kind to it at all.

 Peregrine wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
The Arkurian-pattern Stormblade is back!

If only the rules for it weren't such utter trash, maybe then it could stick around for a while. It's a cool model but 8th edition has not been kind to it at all.

Yes, but my 30k Blackshields would love one!