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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:

Also, Custodes are not Space Marines.

I agreed with you up to this point. Let's be honest for a moment, Yes they are, there's a difference of fluff, but basically they're Super Special Custom Space Marines.

Even GW says they’re Marines for all intents and purposes.

Okay, back on topic now please, this is NOT the thread for that sort of thing.

 Verviedi wrote:
Even GW says they’re Marines for all intents and purposes.

Spoiler:

Awesome! Top left corner, first glimpse at female Marines.

 Omega-soul wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
Has anyone asked them about the possibility of "made to order' kind of thing? Or "model on demand"?

Somebody asked Tony that question in the Q&A session I was in, it wasn't something he had thought of before but seemed to like the idea. Warehouse space vs. sales was the clear message with why stuff was being removed from Tony.

Was there something new/intresting in Forgeworld Q&A?

Very little if you had seen the output from the recent HH Weekender, Krole looking complete was my biggest surprise, the new IM/SA tanks a small surprise, and the Talons of Emperor being *soon* was a big surprise especially as it will include GK in the book. They did say it would be codex like rather than like a IA book, I think would be a good approach from FW to start doing codexes if the smaller books means a faster turnaround.

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Omega-soul wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
Has anyone asked them about the possibility of "made to order' kind of thing? Or "model on demand"?

Somebody asked Tony that question in the Q&A session I was in, it wasn't something he had thought of before but seemed to like the idea. Warehouse space vs. sales was the clear message with why stuff was being removed from Tony.

Was there something new/intresting in Forgeworld Q&A?

Very little if you had seen the output from the recent HH Weekender, Krole looking complete was my biggest surprise, the new IM/SA tanks a small surprise, and the Talons of Emperor being *soon* was a big surprise especially as it will include GK in the book. They did say it would be codex like rather than like a IA book, I think would be a good approach from FW to start doing codexes if the smaller books means a faster turnaround.

I wouldn't say it is a hugely new approach either- IA 1, 2 and 13 are basically just fat Codices, fat simply because there are a lot of units available. The campaign books are different only in that they have all the fluff and campaign rules. Take those out, and most of them would be Codex-sized. I do like the fluff though...

 Haighus wrote:
I wouldn't say it is a hugely new approach either- IA 1, 2 and 13 are basically just fat Codices, fat simply because there are a lot of units available. The campaign books are different only in that they have all the fluff and campaign rules. Take those out, and most of them would be Codex-sized. I do like the fluff though...

Those felt closer to the indexes than codexes as they weren't really cohesive uniquely themed armies like the later IA books or a codex. Based on what they said this will be closer to an actual codex with some fluff, chapter tactics, strategums and the like.

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
I wouldn't say it is a hugely new approach either- IA 1, 2 and 13 are basically just fat Codices, fat simply because there are a lot of units available. The campaign books are different only in that they have all the fluff and campaign rules. Take those out, and most of them would be Codex-sized. I do like the fluff though...

Those felt closer to the indexes than codexes as they weren't really cohesive uniquely themed armies like the later IA books or a codex. Based on what they said this will be closer to an actual codex with some fluff, chapter tactics, strategums and the like.

Good point. The old IAs did have some army lists, but full strategum and so on options in an IA would be cool.

My sister's would like some strategums and the ability to actually use detachments and generate CP's.
I have a funny feeling my sisters might have some new toys once this book comes out.

I wonder if any of these books will contain the Trader Militant list they promised back in the first few HH books?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That's what all Necron things should be - giant constructs, not vehicles piloted by regular Necrons.

Indeed.




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 Arachnofiend wrote:
"Necrons lack a knight equivalent" is a different argument than "Necrons lack a titan class unit". You're certainly not going to see any arguments from me against the existence of this new walker, I like it a lot.

Only issue I have with it is that it looks so much like it`s simply a triarch stalker with extra legs.

Btw I love that art of Xun'bakyr. I wish she would get a model.

Forgeworld and Specialist Games Open Day tickets are up:

THATS THE GIANT ROBOT WHOS BEEN GATHERING DUST ON MY SHELF FOR TWO YEARS BECAUSE HE HAS NO RULES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

do it forgeworld. Do the fires of cyraxus thing, I dare you I double dare you motherforger, say Triaros Armored Conveyor again.

the_scotsman wrote:
THATS THE GIANT ROBOT WHOS BEEN GATHERING DUST ON MY SHELF FOR TWO YEARS BECAUSE HE HAS NO RULES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

do it forgeworld. Do the fires of cyraxus thing, I dare you I double dare you motherforger, say Triaros Armored Conveyor again.

Per the Fest, they aren't anywhere near ready for Fires. It is like 4th book in line now, slated for allegedly the end of the year or some nonsense (ie never).

Did anyone get a good look at the 'new' Land Speeders over the weekend? Wondering what differences there are between the Event Exclusive and normal release ones are - is it just crew (& weapon options)?

It's insane that Fires has been delayed again. I have been defending Forgeworld, saying it's no wonder it's taking such a long time with their loss of personnel, and just having few people working on the books generally.

But at this point it's getting harder to defend them. How can it be taking so long? They announce the NEXT Imperial Armour (Talons) before even giving more proper info on Fires. That's bananas!

 alleus wrote:
It's insane that Fires has been delayed again. I have been defending Forgeworld, saying it's no wonder it's taking such a long time with their loss of personnel, and just having few people working on the books generally.

But at this point it's getting harder to defend them. How can it be taking so long? They announce the NEXT Imperial Armour (Talons) before even giving more proper info on Fires. That's bananas!

In case it hasn't been mentioned....per Penddraig on the Heresy 30k forum, Fires is two-thirds done but on hold until at least after the Talons book and HH Malevolence book. That's 2019 at the earliest.

http://heresy30k.invisionzone.com/topic/11452-penddraigs-summary-of-warhammer-fest-2018/

 gorgon wrote:
In case it hasn't been mentioned....per Penddraig on the Heresy 30k forum, Fires is two-thirds done but on hold until at least after the Talons book and HH Malevolence book. That's 2019 at the earliest.

http://heresy30k.invisionzone.com/topic/11452-penddraigs-summary-of-warhammer-fest-2018/

That link wants a log-on - can you please copy the contents over to here?

 gorgon wrote:

 alleus wrote:
It's insane that Fires has been delayed again. I have been defending Forgeworld, saying it's no wonder it's taking such a long time with their loss of personnel, and just having few people working on the books generally.

But at this point it's getting harder to defend them. How can it be taking so long? They announce the NEXT Imperial Armour (Talons) before even giving more proper info on Fires. That's bananas!

In case it hasn't been mentioned....per Penddraig on the Heresy 30k forum, Fires is two-thirds done but on hold until at least after the Talons book and HH Malevolence book. That's 2019 at the earliest.

http://heresy30k.invisionzone.com/topic/11452-penddraigs-summary-of-warhammer-fest-2018/

The 2019 mentioned by that poster isn't at all what was said on the Saturday. Tony very clearly stated this year and it was the forth book out of a queue of four (Talons, Malevolence, an unknown third book, Fires). However I'm in complete agreement that 2019 is far more realistic than 2018 despite Tony's insistence for this year.

If it's 2018 then we can expect a book full of typos and other errors yet again.

I personally hope the 3rd unknown book is another “Imperial Armour” book – and though it’ll get much hate, I kind hope that it’ll be Imperial focused and just get the forgeworld chapters and regiments etc sorted out with updated rules – alongside the large amount of units that need porting over from the index.

Yes, it’d be “another” speesh marine book, but, by getting the vast majority of work out of the way initially, it’ll allows the format to be quickly adapted for chaos and xenos. I’m at the point where I’m not overly bothered about another campaign book, rather, I just want the missing rules for all the existing things to be brought up to date so we can then start to move on.



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 BrookM wrote:
If it's 2018 then we can expect a book full of typos and other errors yet again.

We'd get that, even if it was 2020 and not 2018.

 BrookM wrote:
If it's 2018 then we can expect a book full of typos and other errors yet again.

If they can't get rid of the errors and typos given what, four years of development at this point? When were the first rumors of Fires, more than a year before the end of 7th at least.

My small mechanicus force is pretty unequivocally my biggest regret of my entire 40k career. Zero rules, even experimental ones, for an investment of nearly 700 dollars and dozens of painting hours, and 30k promptly fizzled and died with the release of 8th.

"not to worry" I said, foolishly, "Surely they merely delayed Fires to release it with 8th! I will get my rules shortly after the Forgeworld indexes, don't you worry my beautiful Castellax maniple, my lovingly painted Triaros, my 20 secutarii hoplites - you won't have to wait long!"

I wonder if the untitled third book will be a "Titan Legions" fluff book.
Because I thought FW hinted they wanted to do a book like "The Imperial Knight Companion" when AT gets released. So we might get a book with pictures of the legions and their bound knight households.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
What a joke. FoC isn't even started yet? And it's bumped to fourth in line behind more books for marines, because who needs non-marine factions when you can make lots of gold marines? This is seriously into "fire everyone at FW for sheer incompetence" territory, especially since all the fluff components are supposedly done and updating the rules for 8th edition shouldn't take that long. Simply inexcusable.

SA tank is boring and pointless. I'm disappointed that they'd put out such a minimal-effort model, just gluing some random lascannon bits on the transport version.

Necron walker is pretty cool, but comes out of nowhere. Was this something that was really needed? Or is this another case of FW lacking discipline and wandering off to do random side projects instead of finishing more important things?

Complains about an over abundance of space marine stuff, the continues on to complain about the two non space marine releases

Sounds like its just you complaining about FOC because you specifically want that more than anything else. There is no precedent of importance given to something just because you want it more. I for one want all the Horus Heresy stuff I can get my grubby hands on, but I can at least understand the intermittent releases of Xeno, Hobbit, and specialist game items. I may not care for it as much, but Im not gonna raise hell and call for burning down the whole model line.

Also, Custodes are not Space Marines.

Well to be fair... that is easy for you to say. You play space marines, you dont have half your model line completely out dated. And it's not just that either. How is it fair that space marines not only get their codex before everyone but even have supplements released before most of the xenos base codex releases? Orks STILL don't have a new codex and it looks like they arent getting any new models to replace their absurdly old line. Eldar STILL don't have plastic aspect warriors or phoenix lords, Necrons still have all failcast named characters as well as the abortions that are the new flayed ones, Dark Eldar arent any better, Slaanesh is probably going to be killed off, etc. It seems like every other month there is a different colored space marine release meanwhile all the Xenos races are being neglected.

Meanwhile space marines got a bunch of new vehicle models and new space marine models to replace most of their line. Then you got a new custodes codex.... before Necrons, Dark Eldar, Orks, etc. got theirs.

Mental Surge wrote:
Orks STILL don't have a new codex and it looks like they arent getting any new models to replace their absurdly old line. Eldar STILL don't have plastic aspect warriors or phoenix lords, Necrons still have all failcast named characters as well as the abortions that are the new flayed ones, Dark Eldar arent any better, Slaanesh is probably going to be killed off, etc. It seems like every other month there is a different colored space marine release meanwhile all the Xenos races are being neglected.

I am genuinely curious- how do Orks have an absurdly old line? As far as I can tell, the warbuggy, wartrakk, kommandoes and tankbusters are the only units in dire need of an update. The vast majority of their remaining legacy kits got updated fairly recently with the meganobz, characters and big gunz batteries.

I agree Eldar and Chaos are both in places that need a lot of updates (although Chaos has received a lot in the last couple years), particularly Aspect warriors and Slannesh, but Necrons and Dark Eldar in in the same place as Imperial Guard, and are fairly ok for models. The chief concern for most of these factions is rules not models.

Mental Surge wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
What a joke. FoC isn't even started yet? And it's bumped to fourth in line behind more books for marines, because who needs non-marine factions when you can make lots of gold marines? This is seriously into "fire everyone at FW for sheer incompetence" territory, especially since all the fluff components are supposedly done and updating the rules for 8th edition shouldn't take that long. Simply inexcusable.

SA tank is boring and pointless. I'm disappointed that they'd put out such a minimal-effort model, just gluing some random lascannon bits on the transport version.

Necron walker is pretty cool, but comes out of nowhere. Was this something that was really needed? Or is this another case of FW lacking discipline and wandering off to do random side projects instead of finishing more important things?

Complains about an over abundance of space marine stuff, the continues on to complain about the two non space marine releases

Sounds like its just you complaining about FOC because you specifically want that more than anything else. There is no precedent of importance given to something just because you want it more. I for one want all the Horus Heresy stuff I can get my grubby hands on, but I can at least understand the intermittent releases of Xeno, Hobbit, and specialist game items. I may not care for it as much, but Im not gonna raise hell and call for burning down the whole model line.

Also, Custodes are not Space Marines.

Well to be fair... that is easy for you to say. You play space marines, you dont have half your model line completely out dated. And it's not just that either. How is it fair that space marines not only get their codex before everyone but even have supplements released before most of the xenos base codex releases? Orks STILL don't have a new codex and it looks like they arent getting any new models to replace their absurdly old line. Eldar STILL don't have plastic aspect warriors or phoenix lords, Necrons still have all failcast named characters as well as the abortions that are the new flayed ones, Dark Eldar arent any better, Slaanesh is probably going to be killed off, etc. It seems like every other month there is a different colored space marine release meanwhile all the Xenos races are being neglected.

Meanwhile space marines got a bunch of new vehicle models and new space marine models to replace most of their line. Then you got a new custodes codex.... before Necrons, Dark Eldar, Orks, etc. got theirs.

Marines (specifically primaris now) are GW's poster boys you have to accept that or your never going to enjoy playing 40K

Also as much as you, I and anyone else might thing failcast is a joke as far a GW are concerned its a fine material. They aren't interested in replacing failcast any time soon.

HH has been hit hard by 8th edition, which for all it's issues has grown the player base. Forgeworld have been getting hassled for 40k rules for Custodes and Sisters units as GW clearly has zero interest in giving me a viable Sister's of Silence army in 40K.
40K rules expands the market for their expensive models greatly, ignoring that would be a bad business decision.

 Geifer wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:
Even GW says they’re Marines for all intents and purposes.

Spoiler:

Awesome! Top left corner, first glimpse at female Marines.

Wow if they made sisters of silence S4 T4, that would be awesome lol.

Mental Surge wrote:


Well to be fair... that is easy for you to say. You play space marines, you dont have half your model line completely out dated. And it's not just that either. How is it fair that space marines not only get their codex before everyone but even have supplements released before most of the xenos base codex releases? Orks STILL don't have a new codex and it looks like they arent getting any new models to replace their absurdly old line. Eldar STILL don't have plastic aspect warriors or phoenix lords, Necrons still have all failcast named characters as well as the abortions that are the new flayed ones, Dark Eldar arent any better, Slaanesh is probably going to be killed off, etc. It seems like every other month there is a different colored space marine release meanwhile all the Xenos races are being neglected.

Meanwhile space marines got a bunch of new vehicle models and new space marine models to replace most of their line. Then you got a new custodes codex.... before Necrons, Dark Eldar, Orks, etc. got theirs.

How is the Slaanesh is being killed off party line still hanging on?

 Haighus wrote:

Mental Surge wrote:
Orks STILL don't have a new codex and it looks like they arent getting any new models to replace their absurdly old line. Eldar STILL don't have plastic aspect warriors or phoenix lords, Necrons still have all failcast named characters as well as the abortions that are the new flayed ones, Dark Eldar arent any better, Slaanesh is probably going to be killed off, etc. It seems like every other month there is a different colored space marine release meanwhile all the Xenos races are being neglected.

I am genuinely curious- how do Orks have an absurdly old line? As far as I can tell, the warbuggy, wartrakk, kommandoes and tankbusters are the only units in dire need of an update. The vast majority of their remaining legacy kits got updated fairly recently with the meganobz, characters and big gunz batteries.

I agree Eldar and Chaos are both in places that need a lot of updates (although Chaos has received a lot in the last couple years), particularly Aspect warriors and Slannesh, but Necrons and Dark Eldar in in the same place as Imperial Guard, and are fairly ok for models. The chief concern for most of these factions is rules not models.

Necrons need new flayed one models, all their destroyers look identical with the same over-sized left arms, all the characters are still failcast, etc. There is WAY too much failcast in every xenos race. The Orks also have terrible Kopta models and of course they have plenty of failcast too... including Ghazghkull ffs. The wartrakk and warbuggy are the worst though.

I honestly dont knwo how you can say they dont need updates badly when half their ranges are failcast. Look at Dark Eldar - Mandrakes, Grotesques, Clawed Fiends, Khymeraes, Incubi, Urien Rakarth, Lelith Hesperax, Beastmasters, Drazhar, Razorwing Flocks, Lhamaean, Sslyth, Medusae, Ur-Ghul, etc. How is this even a debate? Every necron character is failcast, Nearly every Eldar character is failcast, etc.

And no, the chief concern is most definitely the models. Look at Eldar aspect warriors and Phoenix Lords - those are supposed to be core aspects of the Eldar race.... and they almost all look awful and are nearly all failcast.


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Ice_can wrote:

Mental Surge wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
What a joke. FoC isn't even started yet? And it's bumped to fourth in line behind more books for marines, because who needs non-marine factions when you can make lots of gold marines? This is seriously into "fire everyone at FW for sheer incompetence" territory, especially since all the fluff components are supposedly done and updating the rules for 8th edition shouldn't take that long. Simply inexcusable.

SA tank is boring and pointless. I'm disappointed that they'd put out such a minimal-effort model, just gluing some random lascannon bits on the transport version.

Necron walker is pretty cool, but comes out of nowhere. Was this something that was really needed? Or is this another case of FW lacking discipline and wandering off to do random side projects instead of finishing more important things?

Complains about an over abundance of space marine stuff, the continues on to complain about the two non space marine releases

Sounds like its just you complaining about FOC because you specifically want that more than anything else. There is no precedent of importance given to something just because you want it more. I for one want all the Horus Heresy stuff I can get my grubby hands on, but I can at least understand the intermittent releases of Xeno, Hobbit, and specialist game items. I may not care for it as much, but Im not gonna raise hell and call for burning down the whole model line.

Also, Custodes are not Space Marines.

Well to be fair... that is easy for you to say. You play space marines, you dont have half your model line completely out dated. And it's not just that either. How is it fair that space marines not only get their codex before everyone but even have supplements released before most of the xenos base codex releases? Orks STILL don't have a new codex and it looks like they arent getting any new models to replace their absurdly old line. Eldar STILL don't have plastic aspect warriors or phoenix lords, Necrons still have all failcast named characters as well as the abortions that are the new flayed ones, Dark Eldar arent any better, Slaanesh is probably going to be killed off, etc. It seems like every other month there is a different colored space marine release meanwhile all the Xenos races are being neglected.

Meanwhile space marines got a bunch of new vehicle models and new space marine models to replace most of their line. Then you got a new custodes codex.... before Necrons, Dark Eldar, Orks, etc. got theirs.

Marines (specifically primaris now) are GW's poster boys you have to accept that or your never going to enjoy playing 40K

Also as much as you, I and anyone else might thing failcast is a joke as far a GW are concerned its a fine material. They aren't interested in replacing failcast any time soon.

HH has been hit hard by 8th edition, which for all it's issues has grown the player base. Forgeworld have been getting hassled for 40k rules for Custodes and Sisters units as GW clearly has zero interest in giving me a viable Sister's of Silence army in 40K.
40K rules expands the market for their expensive models greatly, ignoring that would be a bad business decision.

Who said I am not used to space marines getting everything? I got used to that a long time ago. That does not at all mean I cant voice my displeasure with it. I have a right as a customer to speak my mind and neglecting the xenos races out of pure bias is worth calling out. That is a very poor attitude (or perhaps extremely biased if you are a space marine player which I am betting you are) to just accept it and not speak out against it. Am I surprised that space marines always get everything? of course not. But does that mean I am happy about it? Hell no.

And no, I am pretty sure even GW realizes that failcast is awful. With the constant complaints they get all the time in regards to it, do you really think all the new models (characters or not) are plastic for no reason? Also them thinking it's a quality matieral doesnt make it a quality material. In fact if that's the case then we should be speaking out to tell them it's not if they can't figure it out themselves.

How is the Slaanesh is being killed off party line still hanging on?

Not necessarily being killed off but is certainly being neglected. This isnt exactly new. On top of that it certainly seems like that is the direction the lore is going in with the creation of Ynnead. Not to mention with whatever the hell happened to Slaanesh in AoS.

Mental Surge wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

Mental Surge wrote:
Orks STILL don't have a new codex and it looks like they arent getting any new models to replace their absurdly old line. Eldar STILL don't have plastic aspect warriors or phoenix lords, Necrons still have all failcast named characters as well as the abortions that are the new flayed ones, Dark Eldar arent any better, Slaanesh is probably going to be killed off, etc. It seems like every other month there is a different colored space marine release meanwhile all the Xenos races are being neglected.

I am genuinely curious- how do Orks have an absurdly old line? As far as I can tell, the warbuggy, wartrakk, kommandoes and tankbusters are the only units in dire need of an update. The vast majority of their remaining legacy kits got updated fairly recently with the meganobz, characters and big gunz batteries.

I agree Eldar and Chaos are both in places that need a lot of updates (although Chaos has received a lot in the last couple years), particularly Aspect warriors and Slannesh, but Necrons and Dark Eldar in in the same place as Imperial Guard, and are fairly ok for models. The chief concern for most of these factions is rules not models.

Necrons need new flayed one models, all their destroyers look identical with the same over-sized left arms, all the characters are still failcast, etc. There is WAY too much failcast in every xenos race. The Orks also have terrible Kopta models and of course they have plenty of failcast too... including Ghazghkull ffs. Not to mention their bikes dont look that great either.

I honestly dont knwo how you can say they dont need updates badly when half their ranges are failcast. Look at Dark Eldar - Mandrakes, Grotesques, Clawed Fiends, Khymeraes, Urien Rakarth, Lelith Hesperax, Beastmasters, Drazhar, Razorwing Flocks, Lhamaean, Sslyth, Medusae, Ur-Ghul, etc. How is this even a debate? Every necron character is failcast, Nearly every Eldar character is failcast, etc.

And no, the chief concern is most definitely the models. Look at Eldar aspect warriors and Phoenix Lords - those are supposed to be core aspects of the Eldar race.... and they almost all look awful and are nearly all failcast.

Well, if you read my original post, it was actually a question more than a debate, but anyhow.

I had forgotten the deffkopta (I am fortunate enough to have 9 Black Reach plastic ones, that may be why), but I had mentioned the two main finecast offenders- Kommandoes and Tank busters. When it comes down to it though, there are only 5 non-character units that need updates. Personally I quite like the bikes, but they are ageing. Regarding characters (for which Orks are pretty well served compared to many) see below.

Eldar I fully agree with, see previous post. There are more Dark Eldar units in resin than I remembered- I thought Grotesques had a kit and forgot about Beast Masters. Incubi and Mandrakes I was aware of. Tau just need Vespids, and ideally a Kroot update.

Most of the rest are only really lacking for characters- named characters being in resin is nothing unusual. Even most of the Space Marine characters are still resin! Only the newest are not (which is true of recent xenos characters like Eldrad). I find it more of a problem when generic characters are not in plastic, but Necrons are ok for this now (they could do with a Destroyer Lord) as are Tau. Orks are also good. DE are ok, although I neglected the Court of the Archon. Eldar are ok too (a new Warlock coven would be good though). When it comes don to it though, these are easily updated as spot releases, like the Cryptek recently, or the Ethereal with that Raven Guard vs Tau boxset. Special characters are best rejuvenated in campaigns. I would love a new plstic Ghaz that was huge and truly represented his fluff (with better rules), but it would tie in best with a Ghaz-related plotline.

Note that nowhere do I think these are not necessary, or that they should not need releases. My question was more at the way you seemed to be suggesting Orks needed an overhaul similar to the Dark Eldar or Necron overhauls of 5th edition, which clearly isn't true. Basically all of these armies need 2 weeks of releases at most to round out the squads, and then a few additional characters as and when in some other cases. The glaring exception is the ancient Eldar kits. Eldar needs a big release, or a couple of small ones.

I mainly play Astra Militarum. My model line is in a worse position than the Ork line in many places, particularly characters. However, I think the Orks really need better rules to take advantage of the many great models they do have access to.

Who said I am not used to space marines getting everything? I got used to that a long time ago. That does not at all mean I cant voice my displeasure with it. I have a right as a customer to speak my mind and neglecting the xenos races out of pure bias is worth calling out.

And no, I am pretty sure even GW realizes that failcast is awful. With the constant complaints they get all the time in regards to it, do you really think all the new models (characters or not) are plastic for no reason? Also them thinking it's a quality matieral doesnt make it a quality material. In fact if that's the case then we should be speaking out to tell them it's not if they can't figure it out themselves.

Considering how the number of resin new releases over the last couple of years has been minimal, and mostly restricted to limited run models, I think GW is well aware of how badly it has been received. It is definitely being quitely phased out.

How is the Slaanesh is being killed off party line still hanging on?

Not necessarily being killed off but is certainly being neglected. This isnt exactly new. On top of that it certainly seems like that is the direction the lore is going in with the creation of Ynnead.

I'm not sure if the Ynnead lore suggests neglect, or just a war over the Aeldari souls. Eitherway, I personally hope that Slannesh are last because they are spending more time on getting Slannesh right. The CSM side is non-sexual in any way though, so that should be relatively easy in comparison to the Daemons.