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Manage of mirrors for anyone who loves old fashioned fantasy fiction. Brilliant stuff, I could eat it.

And its all up! The special edition for Ephrael Stern is £90, too rich for my blood though I say that as someone who hasn't read the comic so I'm not "a fan". * edit - its already sold out in the UK store!

The new anniversary edition with colour is £25 which is about normal for that kind of book in hardback from GW.

Got one. Fortunately they updated the new section about 9:55, so before they updated the front page so i had some time to play with.

Congrats! They vanished super fast and at only 1.5K in stock world over I'm not surprised. Must admit of all the content the seal and wax is the most unique of the "bling" that you get bundled and is about the only bit of it I'd have "wanted" (well aside from dice cause dice are always good)

What the actual. Even the normal edition is sold out. What is the point of having a special and a regular if you make the regular one limited as well? Seriously GW feth sake.

Sadly anything hardback is often of limited supply. Best you can hope is that GW orders a reprint or that there's a paperback coming later. Best you can do is to email GW and air your interest in purchasing the book and your hope that they'll order more.

It's very annoying, a few years back they did some awesome art books for Eldar, which I'd love to get hold of. I have seen them reprint a fair bit recently - grabbed a wonderulf hardback of Libre Chaotica - but even those reprints are limited supply.

You can still order the regular hardback on Amazon for £25. I ordered mine when it first appeared a couple of months ago.

Aeneades wrote:
You can still order the regular hardback on Amazon for £25. I ordered mine when it first appeared a couple of months ago.

Hmm. Well I put in the order, but I don't actually expect it'll be fulfilled, they'll do the same as most third parties do with BL products - take all the preorders they can, then try to persuade all the people left without when GW's paltry allocation arrives to take store credit instead of a proper refund. Hopefully I'm wrong, we'll see come the 9th.

 Overread wrote:
Sadly anything hardback is often of limited supply. Best you can hope is that GW orders a reprint or that there's a paperback coming later. Best you can do is to email GW and air your interest in purchasing the book and your hope that they'll order more.

It's very annoying, a few years back they did some awesome art books for Eldar, which I'd love to get hold of. I have seen them reprint a fair bit recently - grabbed a wonderulf hardback of Libre Chaotica - but even those reprints are limited supply.

Liber Chaotica's an almost as bad example. I only managed to get one in the end because one of the staff in the local GW store agreed to give up the last copy they had that he had put aside for himself.

The whole thing is just farce considering how easily they could fix the problem with Print On Demand.

The unfortunate thing for collectors is that limited editions must be by their nature..... limited. It’s incredibly annoying but if you are producing limited editions it’s to create hype around your product and an active eBay market for limited editions works in the companies favour in the long run. It’s the series’s that get me, only managing to get some of them must be the most infuriating thing for a collector. These one offs are kind of pot luck and that’s not unreasonable I suppose but a series is something you invest in and not being able to complete is nuclear brain exploding annoying.
I was surprised this one sold so quick, but thinking about it anything sister related has been crazy popular since they had their launch.

Thing is many of them - like libre chaotica - aren't really "limited editions." They are just limited print runs. GW also isn't really tapped into the whole collectors market themselves, so any scalping or after-sale value of the product is purely feeding the 3rd party pockets not GW (if anything if people are spending more on middle-men then that means less hobby money to spend on GW direct).

IF GW ran their own secondhand and trading website then I could see interest for them in keeping many things limited. Instead their limits are more about them protecting their investment and profit ratios; so that they don't end up sitting on unsold stock.

It's also likely that print-on-demand might cost more and eat into profits or be more complex to setup.


We know they do it - the Inferno Reprints were all done on print-on-demand. Granted they only last a week or two when put up (and we are still waiting for the next run); but at least even thogh its a short window (which is still annoying); there's no issue with stock

As much as it biles ma pish to say given the issue is entirely GW's fault in the first place - I'd rather pay ~5-10 quid more than the first-run price for a POD version so GW can assuage their shareholder's quaking terror at the prospect of not having All The Money, than I would be forced to choose between not having the books at all or paying some filthy worthless scalperscum 10+ times the first-run price on ebay.

I'd much rather GW just get over their absolutely irrational fear of having any stock on hand whatsoever after the very day of preorders, but that's not the world we live in, so we choose the lesser evil.

I'd love to see more of their lore and art books on sale as well. Some are utterly outstanding and well worth a good price on them -just not the insane prices that ebay gets them for when there's only a tiny number in circulation at any one time (if any at all).

It is a shame that it's already sold out, their Facebook page is mostly people mentioning it being sold out so swiftly and that it needs to be revised. All we can do now is annoyingly wait for the actual novel release to happen six to eight months from now.

Makes one worry for when they get around to the second book of the Bequin trilogy, you'd hope they'd tackle it like they've tackled the Magos a few years ago (releasing the limited edition alongside the regular paperback, holy gak!), but chances of them doing that again..

In better news..



Happy this one isn't sold out yet, really loved his horror audio dramas, so looking forward to having this one on my shelf in due time with his other stuff.

I also saw somewhere, can't find it now, that the upcoming Blood Quest reprint will be done in three parts, so not a complete trilogy in one trade / hardback.

 Overread wrote:
Thing is many of them - like libre chaotica - aren't really "limited editions." They are just limited print runs. GW also isn't really tapped into the whole collectors market themselves, so any scalping or after-sale value of the product is purely feeding the 3rd party pockets not GW (if anything if people are spending more on middle-men then that means less hobby money to spend on GW direct).

IF GW ran their own secondhand and trading website then I could see interest for them in keeping many things limited. Instead their limits are more about them protecting their investment and profit ratios; so that they don't end up sitting on unsold stock.

It's also likely that print-on-demand might cost more and eat into profits or be more complex to setup.


We know they do it - the Inferno Reprints were all done on print-on-demand. Granted they only last a week or two when put up (and we are still waiting for the next run); but at least even thogh its a short window (which is still annoying); there's no issue with stock

GW don’t need to run the sales of scalped copies. The whole thing is about product hype not about an extra 40 or 50 quid for a couple of hundred books. The books selling out in minutes, the crazy prices on eBay and the fan fury over not getting one is exactly what GW want out of these limited editions. It’s not about you getting what you want it’s about making us all addicts.

The non limited edition print run issues are probably more down to a dreaded fear of remaining stock and this is something GW need to get better at. It’s bound to be costing them money. Although maybe people buy ebooks if they can’t get a hardback, and that’s probably the cheapest of all for GW

 Knockagh wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Thing is many of them - like libre chaotica - aren't really "limited editions." They are just limited print runs. GW also isn't really tapped into the whole collectors market themselves, so any scalping or after-sale value of the product is purely feeding the 3rd party pockets not GW (if anything if people are spending more on middle-men then that means less hobby money to spend on GW direct).

IF GW ran their own secondhand and trading website then I could see interest for them in keeping many things limited. Instead their limits are more about them protecting their investment and profit ratios; so that they don't end up sitting on unsold stock.

It's also likely that print-on-demand might cost more and eat into profits or be more complex to setup.


We know they do it - the Inferno Reprints were all done on print-on-demand. Granted they only last a week or two when put up (and we are still waiting for the next run); but at least even thogh its a short window (which is still annoying); there's no issue with stock

GW don’t need to run the sales of scalped copies. The whole thing is about product hype not about an extra 40 or 50 quid for a couple of hundred books. The books selling out in minutes, the crazy prices on eBay and the fan fury over not getting one is exactly what GW want out of these limited editions. It’s not about you getting what you want it’s about making us all addicts.

Well then it backfired, because as a direct result of this shoddy nonsense I now just pirate most of their books that I'm actually bothered about, and I know I'm not alone in that(I do not advocate anyone else engage in piracy, it is bad and wrong and naughty etc etc blah). I used to spend a solid couple of hundred a year on BL stuff between Heresy, WHF, Abnett books, art/coffee table/source books and the odd 40K novel, these days the only money they get out of me are stuff like the hardback Daemonifuge or Liber Chaotica - stuff I want on my actual shelf - so by fannying about with availability for those they just get nothing at all.

Nobody is ever going to convince me it's somehow good business to leave huge chunks of money on the table. If they absolutely must turn preorder/release day into a fething pantomime for the sake of "hype" fine, whatever, but there's absolutely nothing about that which requires them to then just never bother printing any more.

Also, it wasn't stupid shenanigans and hyper-limited releases that got GW their first NY Times bestseller.

I agree, there's certainly a tipping point between when limited editions help drive launch sales and when it simply annoys the customers. Especially when many of these are simple print run books. The contents are special, but the actual manufacture is bog standard mass market produce.

The only reason to limit is so that GW isn't left holding stock in the long term. Another consideration is that when there is clearly way more demand than supply, GW could do way more to support a second wave of sales or even use more Print on Demand for longer periods (say have a product up for 6 months with 3 print-on-demand runs during that time period).

There are options GW can use to try and ensure that they profit and fans get what they want.

We had an author on here once who described BL as having the tiger by the tail: the limited editions made a lot of money at first, so they had more of them. Then the limited editions made less and less, so they had to have more and more limited editions to make the same money, and eventually it took over their release schedule because they were never able to back down.

I also used to spend hundreds on BL books. I bought literally everything they put out for years. Everything but the special limited releases. Now I buy only one or two BL books a year.

 Yodhrin wrote:
As much as it biles ma pish to say given the issue is entirely GW's fault in the first place - I'd rather pay ~5-10 quid more than the first-run price for a POD version so GW can assuage their shareholder's quaking terror at the prospect of not having All The Money, than I would be forced to choose between not having the books at all or paying some filthy worthless scalperscum 10+ times the first-run price on ebay.

I'd much rather GW just get over their absolutely irrational fear of having any stock on hand whatsoever after the very day of preorders, but that's not the world we live in, so we choose the lesser evil.

For all their 'advances in PR' I'm still convinced GW's sales department has a healthy share of idiots.

My guess is every time this is brought up, the same person says that by making it so limited, they're ensuring the absolute maximum amount of people are viewing their website at 10am and may see something else thy like whilst browsing, even if they don't get a limited edition, or something equally dumb.

If your the type that thinks so little of the authors that you would download pirate copies then I doubt your the customer base they want anyway.

If I had my way I would make the limited editions print to order and they would take bookings in advance for them. I have written to BL asking for this. Particularly for a series like the seige. We should have been allowed to sign up in advance for the books in limited format, paying a deposit. But they said no, so I’m assuming they have a reason for that. It’s very frustrating and hopefully it will change but switching to pirated copies is certainly not a good trend if you want to still have authors out there.

Ha, typical, the one time GW makes nice and (predominantly) practical Adepta Sororitas dice, they decide to sell them as part of a limited edition book that sells out within moments. Didn't put them in the box set, didn't sell them separately, no, they sell them with a book.
And the non-limited edition of the book was also actually quite limited in quantity, so much so that it sold out the same day? How.. why... but really how...?? Either the Sisters continue to be incredibly more popular than GW expects, or they really prefer to sell out in minutes than to sell several times the number at the risk of not quite fully selling out during pre-orders. Didn't even realize the book would go up for pre-order yesterday (hadn't seen anything about it since the first preview), so it was obviously gone by the time I found out.

INFERNO's Back!
It's another bundle of 10 issues so likely will cost the same as last time - £50 for the UK. They'll be up for print on demand order for only 2 weeks.

I've bought the earlier ones and they are well worth picking up - reprint quality is great and the overall price of around £5 per issue is very fair for the content you get.

Bit annoyed that its another expensive run (in an already expensive month with the new edition dropping and all). That said at least big blocks get more out of the way

About time, odd that Inferno! #5 isn't mentioned or up for preorder as well.

Saturnine also up for preorder, after which they'll be taking a break from the Siege series, which was IIRC mentioned somewhere else or in an interview or the like.

Which of these series do you think will be a better audio book listen?
Vaults of Terra.
Watchers of the Throne.
Black Legion.

Audible has 1 and 2 of them all (I assume 3’s aren’t out yet for them), and I’ve got to pick something and I’m a bit stuck at the moment..

Danny76 wrote:
Which of these series do you think will be a better audio book listen?
Vaults of Terra.
Watchers of the Throne.
Black Legion.

Audible has 1 and 2 of them all (I assume 3’s aren’t out yet for them), and I’ve got to pick something and I’m a bit stuck at the moment..

Honestly I’d say none of those are a bad choice. Would you rather listen to Inquisition, Custodes/SoS/High Lords or Chaos?

And yeah they all only have 2 books in the series’s so far.

More intrusive and less war, so I guess Inquisition is good.
I guess maybe something as different to most 40k as possible (hard to do when it’s the setting.. but if you know what I mean).
Like how Eisenhorn is quite a step aside from SM Conquests for example.

I’ve got three credits free, so I suppose I could just get 1 from all series maybe..

New book bundle on Fanatical

https://www.fanatical.com/en/bundle/warhammer-fiction-bundle-from-black-library

There's some repeating here from their earlier bundle, however there's a good general showing of 40K, AoS and then a nice chunk of the first Horus Hersey books (though considering there's 50 books in total for the HH I wouldn't be surprised to see a Humble Bundle every so often wit ha good 20-30 chunk)

It's a nice deal, just a shame that a laaaaaarge chunk of the books selected have already been part of one or more Humble Bundles in the past.

The price of Tier 2 makes it a good deal for me only to have the four books I've never had previously.

Yeah I'm thinking I'll jump for the second. It's rare as normally I'm all in or not at all with bundles, but the HH is 50 books long - I can't commit to that huge of a reading project when I've others to catch up on any way (plus its all freaking marines - not a Tyranid in sight :()

I think I’ve got all but four or five of everything up to tier 2, and everything in tier 3.
And I have many, many ebooks to be getting on to from buys, or prior bundles etc.

Some good books in second tier though, really enjoyable ones