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 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

Henshini wrote:
From what I understand above, the issue is that at least one of the scenarios in the coldfront book has the aleph player using dart. That’s a first for these operations boxes.

Wasn’t there a cardboard token for exclusive models in prior boxes? CSU was a token if you didn’t preorder icestorm.
Yeah it’d suck using a token, but the game still works.

Yes, I was going to mention this.

She is not involved in any way in any scenario or army list suggestion at the Operation Coldfront pack.

Why should she be?

It was Killian who mentioned that Dart would join the ALEPH side and the wardriver would join the Ariadna side and they would be balanced. No mention of Dart in any scenario.

I suppose it was was obvious that the Naga MSR would be the box only mini, given that the current sniper was recently repackaged with the minelayer. But will they swap out the mini in the future for this new one?

After looking at the Asuras mini again, I think the problem is the terrible paint job on the hair and headgear. The mini itself looks just fine.

Honestly I just think Killian meant each side would have the same amount of units, if you get everything from the Gencon pack (each side gets a unit in the prerelease box, and then Dart goes with Aleph and the Wardriver with Ariadna).

 Kanluwen wrote:
She's purportedly in the 300 point list.

She isn't mentioned in Coldfront at all, not in missions, not in suggested army lists.

New video online!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:
Any idea on when we start seeing profiles?

Sadly, no. They expect to ship the box in September--so probably October?

Im thinking all the profiles and sectorials will be unlocked at GenCon or around a week after since they are out by then. Just like they did with JSA.

Dossiers/renders from Beyond Coldfront (spoilers for big images):


From here:

I like everything that they are showing these days.

I guess nobody is going to keep playing with anything previous to 2018 now.
The Tournaments are going to be like JSA vs Tunguska Vs ALEPH Vs. TAK and nothing else.

This new stuff is miles better than two player box. This is what should have been in that box.

 BobbaFett wrote:
I like everything that they are showing these days.

I guess nobody is going to keep playing with anything previous to 2018 now.
The Tournaments are going to be like JSA vs Tunguska Vs ALEPH Vs. TAK and nothing else.

Then hammer CB hard on the fact that they need to get to spreading new skills and equipment through existing Sectorials/profiles.


That said, the Strelok might have sold me on TAK.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BobbaFett wrote:
I like everything that they are showing these days.

I guess nobody is going to keep playing with anything previous to 2018 now.
The Tournaments are going to be like JSA vs Tunguska Vs ALEPH Vs. TAK and nothing else.

Then hammer CB hard on the fact that they need to get to spreading new skills and equipment through existing Sectorials/profiles..

That wasn't a sarcastic statement? Alrighty then...

That Gunbot does remind me of a Tachikoma....
I might have to buy one. Or two.

Do like the ALEPH in the beyond box, especially the 'bot. Not so the TAK. I just find the entire Ariadna aesthetic unappealing. I'll have to find someone with whom to split a box.

 Knight wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BobbaFett wrote:
I like everything that they are showing these days.

I guess nobody is going to keep playing with anything previous to 2018 now.
The Tournaments are going to be like JSA vs Tunguska Vs ALEPH Vs. TAK and nothing else.

Then hammer CB hard on the fact that they need to get to spreading new skills and equipment through existing Sectorials/profiles..

That wasn't a sarcastic statement? Alrighty then...

No, it was not sarcastic. It was however, an amusing pun. CB does need to do a bit of retro-application of the new skills etc, and perhaps weed out the cruft. They won't do the latter; the former may happen when the next book releases.

So far the new Vedic is quite impressive, visually. I do hope the profiles and the sectorial list itself are equally impressive. I suspect that they will be.

Oooooh, T2 Marksman Rifle...

 Kalamadea wrote:


Also, is that other model at the 33:04 timestamp the new Asura? That model is absolutely hideous. It's like they took a look at the original Asura and said "Lets take this great model and add a bunch of techno-crap to her head and arm and a rediculous porn-star boob job that's 2 sizes too big for her chest". Almost every other model hits the mark spot-on, but I think I'm going to be picking up the old one before it goes away

I don't feel like the Asura's chest is abnormally large? I think maybe the dark panels on the models sides are making her look more busty than she actually is. The old models had the same effect.

I do like both the older Asura's more though.


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 Red Harvest wrote:
Do like the ALEPH in the beyond box, especially the 'bot. Not so the TAK. I just find the entire Ariadna aesthetic unappealing. I'll have to find someone with whom to split a box.

Same here. Those Aleph concepts look really interesting, and hopefully the models will look nice. The TAK renders are nice enough, but TAK's "super generic army guy" designs just do nothing for me.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Oooooh, T2 Marksman Rifle...

I know!

 jake wrote:

 Kalamadea wrote:


Also, is that other model at the 33:04 timestamp the new Asura? That model is absolutely hideous. It's like they took a look at the original Asura and said "Lets take this great model and add a bunch of techno-crap to her head and arm and a rediculous porn-star boob job that's 2 sizes too big for her chest". Almost every other model hits the mark spot-on, but I think I'm going to be picking up the old one before it goes away

I don't feel like the Asura's chest is abnormally large? I think maybe the dark panels on the models sides are making her look more busty than she actually is. The old models had the same effect.

From the render, it looks like the breasts are large, but not freakish. The mini is certainly not waifish. I would blame the sub-par paint job too.


Now we wait for the profiles. When do the sectorial lists appear? It seems unlikely that they will be in the Coldfront book. Sometime after the box has its general release in mid to late September?

I really like her, I just had to look past the colour composition. Her head has a Shodan vibe going on and I don't find the hair as "triggering" as some people seem to (seriously, the whinging I've heard about the new Naga...).

Sure the bumpers are on the generous side, but she looks damn fine to me.

Assura looks damn fine to me to. Hope the multi version comes with a killer hacker option instead of the HD+, or even better the Killer/Assult hacker combo.

 The Infinite wrote:
I really like her, I just had to look past the colour composition. Her head has a Shodan vibe going on and I don't find the hair as "triggering" as some people seem to (seriously, the whinging I've heard about the new Naga...).

Out of curiosity what has gotten some "triggered" by the hair? especially the Naga, Nagas hair looks really good!

Profiles!

Shukra BSG is every ALEPH players wet dream come true. Including mine.
One of the best things to happen to Vanilla ALEPH.

Fireteam: Duo on Ratniks...because of course
Streloks are disgusting for what they cost. Ambush Camo, two different flavors of Marksman Rifles, BSGs, or SMGs and an option for a Dog? This is what I mean when I talk about 'creep' with Infinity. For a weapon that is supposed to be prevalent in Ariadnan forces--Marksman Rifles seem to now only be in TAK.

Also of course Drop Bears are in ALEPH now.

Bubbalicious wrote:
Assura looks damn fine to me to. Hope the multi version comes with a killer hacker option instead of the HD+, or even better the Killer/Assult hacker combo.

 The Infinite wrote:
I really like her, I just had to look past the colour composition. Her head has a Shodan vibe going on and I don't find the hair as "triggering" as some people seem to (seriously, the whinging I've heard about the new Naga...).

Out of curiosity what has gotten some "triggered" by the hair? especially the Naga, Nagas hair looks really good!

The size of it (snigger, what else).

Streloks and Ratnik profiles.

Deep breaths people, the Yadu pays 1 point for DropBears...

 The Infinite wrote:
Deep breaths people, the Yadu pays 1 point for DropBears...

This is nothing new or surprising. That's about how much PanO stuff pays for it too.

The difference is that the Yadu isn't toting a LSG and being points bloated by Bioimmunity

The DropBear bolt is 25, and comes with CR+LSG.
The base CR+LSG is only 22.

The only difference between profiles to account for the 3 points is the DropBears. Bolt's have been over-paying for inferior mines for too long.

 The Infinite wrote:
The DropBear bolt is 25, and comes with CR+LSG.
The base CR+LSG is only 22.

The only difference between profiles to account for the 3 points is the DropBears. Bolt's have been over-paying for inferior mines for too long.

You're absolutely right. I kept having it in my head that the Dropbear Bolt was 23--but I think that's because it was the price I kept arguing it should have been, if not 0 points.

Sounds about right for PanO though.