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Not saying you're wrong, but it's not easy getting off a proper AD deployment as is. Most AD troops have a Phys of 11 or 12, so only just better then even odds, then every army has access to Disrupt Aircraft hacking program. And that's before havning to find a place where the marker can fit means your trooper has a decent chance of not being in total cover when they land.

I'm no rules guru by any stretch, but I reckon for everye attemmpted AD landing I've seen five AD troops just walk in from the side.

Bwhahahahaha. Marauders are unstoppable! They can start on the 20" line! And Mavericks gain Foward Deployment 1 too!

 .Mikes. wrote:


I'm no rules guru by any stretch, but I reckon for everye attemmpted AD landing I've seen five AD troops just walk in from the side.

I haven't played for a little while but AD troops are virtually non existant round here. I use them sporadically as PanO but have never once risked the landing roll, usually on turn 2 or 3 there's a weak point in my opponent's flank defence where I can squeeze a spitfire in to start murderin'.

Another thing I like is sneaking a cheap combi guy on from the side and just sitting straight on suppressive fire which can really cause problems for an opponent planning to advance down a flank.

But trying to land in the middle of the board, with all risks that entails? No chance!

I use them more than anyone else I've played against, but even then I barely risk a landing without an Evo.

Dropping a Ragik in with a Spitfire and Dogged can cause major havoc to my opponents lines. Die Cheerleaders DIE!!!!

Pure joy.

I used a lot of Rasyats for awhile when doing Morats. I appreciate their style of “diplomacy”.

 dulydude wrote:
While I like the idea of AD units not being limited by the template for this season, I like how certain table layouts make it harder for deployment making you really think where you want to land.
Maybe the could, after this season, update the assisted landing program to be either a +3 OR not needing the template. Could create an interesting trade off

While I'm excited to run bunches of AD again, I can't be the only one who rememebrs the days of super effective AD spam lists after original HS. Back when wiping out your enemy on your first turn with an AD blitz was pretty viable? I think it was one of the reasons that real table density actually became a thing.

Has this Odalisque been shown yet?

Woah that is coming as a surprise. That is a huge improvement.

No, we have not seen it before and here are the rest of the renders


Plus the new odalisque dosiers

They went with a very different Dossier art style this time. Seems like less of a standardized style sheet and more of concept art.

I'm also sad Chun-Li let down her hair...

Its a new concept artist, his first concept art shown was the new Rasyat diplomatic division,

Looks like very little change to the Odalisque concept. Does this mean a redo of the QK starter box?

Considering the Djanbazan got remade and the sniper is still in the QK box, this isn't certain a new box is coming. However, it's one step closer.

While the render of the Odalisque is technically "better" than the old models the CAD N3 design strikes again with what is lost for the hand sculpted stuff.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Its a new concept artist, his first concept art shown was the new Rasyat diplomatic division,

Is it the same person? That Rasyat looks like a very different art style (from what I remember. I should go back and take a closer look). In fact, I would have guessed that these two Odalisque dossiers were drawn by different artists.


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 Chairman Aeon wrote:
While the render of the Odalisque is technically "better" than the old models the CAD N3 design strikes again with what is lost for the hand sculpted stuff.

Yeah. back when I was still doing my review blog (which sadly I never got back to) one of the things i was constantly noting was that while CAD was allowing for some really amazing fine details, facial expression, hair, etc, poses were in general getting more static and less interesting, and it seemed like the same 5 or so poses were being used over and over again. There are still stand outs, of course. Last month's Rasyat, for example. But so many poses are like this Odalisque (just standing there, kind of looking lost) or the PanO models shown above (kind of generically advancing forward, or kneeling, or with a foot up on something). They all just kind of look the same these days.

Some more images. Not sure of the origin, but someone posted them on the official forums awhile ago and they're still there.





So we know the Zulu Cobra's role now.

Crap, that Varuna pack looks extra boring. Great designs, dull poses. Well, thats just my opinion. I know a lot of peope like more generic poses.

Its nice to see more mixed boxes. The securitate poses are mildly more interesting to me than the Varuna stuff, but only a little.

The Zulu Cobra has an interesting pose though! And I guess Jammers are going to be a lot more common.

Is that Deva a Team Rocket reference? It is, isn't it? Hopefully there will be a matching Jaymes to go with her.

I think CB has realized that many of their more "dynamic" poses were both silly and interfered with gameplay.

This game does require exact positioning, and facing matters, so having a model hang off its base will interfere with playing the game correctly and cleanly.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I think CB has realized that many of their more "dynamic" poses were both silly and interfered with gameplay.

This game does require exact positioning, and facing matters, so having a model hang off its base will interfere with playing the game correctly and cleanly.

Dynamic doesn't have to mean silly or hanging off the base. I know that often when people complain about dynamic models they say "I don't want my model backflipping across the table" (which is ironic, since theres not a single infinity model doing a backflip in the entire range), but the word dynamic just means "characterized by constant change". The illusion of movement can be created through natural poses that convey energy and motion even if all they are doing is a simple gesture. Sometimes CB manages to do this with their simpler poses (look at that Deva. See the way her entire torso is slightly turned to convey a sense of motion? See how her weight is shifted?). More often the models look stiff and unnatural. And even when a modern model has a pretty good pose (the advancing male and female Kamau seen above) its one we see used over and over to the point that it becomes boring.

I feel like Infinity has always beniffited froma wide variety of poses, from very simple and generic to realistic real world inspired crouching and advancing to wild jumping and running and weird sword stances. But for the last few years the range has been leaning very heavily toward very simple and generic poses and away from both realist human movement and over the top actionmovie/anime poses.

I feel the crockman hacker has the dullest pose of the bunch. Having the generic PanO gear doesn't help him either.

I like the sculpts a lot, sure they aren't the most dynamic but they are perfect for game play. I think dynamic minis fit more into blisters.
Again, awesome minis especially the Grenzer.

But I agree, there should be more dynamic poses.

The Deva, Grenzer, Zulu with Jammer and even the Orc are all great poses.

The only thing that would make the Grenzer better is if the arms will be compatible with the MSR model.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The only thing that would make the Grenzer better is if the arms will be compatible with the MSR model.

Exactly my thoughts. Such a cool pose with a MSR...would field him all the time.

Nice nomads. Shame they don’t think feuerbach & MSR Securitate were worth putting in the box :-/

Can someone sum up the results of the Kurage Campaign?
Will there be any changes to the fluff/storyline as a result?

 Kanluwen wrote:

I'm rubbing my money on the screen. That makes them arrive sooner, right?

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Nice nomads. Shame they don’t think feuerbach & MSR Securitate were worth putting in the box :-/

Can someone sum up the results of the Kurage Campaign?
Will there be any changes to the fluff/storyline as a result?

Storyline advance confirmed, yes.

As for results... hard to really sum up, so, here's the video.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Nice nomads. Shame they don’t think feuerbach & MSR Securitate were worth putting in the box :-/

Can someone sum up the results of the Kurage Campaign?
Will there be any changes to the fluff/storyline as a result?

TLDR:

It's more or less what caused Coldfront to happen. The booklet for Coldfront has some interesting fluff that seems to indicate the event played out the way they expected.