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solkan wrote: I think that puts the idea of giving the Exrah the same sort of love/updates/digital treatment as... Well, it's like trying to ask DC to produce another Wonder Woman movie instead of another Grim Dark Superman. If they don't have a concept, it's not going to happen.
The LOS indicators is a good idea, but since the relative orientation of a miniature’s head and the base tab is essentially random, it’s a bit useless to me. If I wanted something like that I’d need to paint them on myself.
AndrewGPaul wrote: The LOS indicators is a good idea, but since the relative orientation of a miniature’s head and the base tab is essentially random, it’s a bit useless to me. If I wanted something like that I’d need to paint them on myself.
The LOS pointers on the bases sounds to me like something that seems a great idea until you look a little closer at it.
The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space.
* Uses Aristeia! dice.
* Enemies use AI deck
* Compatible with Infinity
* Expansions planned with more heroes, allies, and friendly remotes
* Enemies are Nox Troops, Cadmus, Gwailo, and other non-Shas units like Charontids
* All sculpts are exclusive to Defiance, and they're trying for each model being unique from one another
* Most Operation Wildfire miniatures are playable in Defiance
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Even though it's short I'm glad to see them getting a video out showing some things off so people aren't left with bad videos from the show floor at Gencon.
Not sure how I feel about it using Aristeia dice, was hoping for more infinity light but I'll wait for a demo video to really decide.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Dysartes wrote: I'd've gone with the comic cover butt 'n' boobs pose on the hacker as being more problematic, myself.
Sculpt her as she was in that piece of art, minus the shouting, and I think she'd look much better.
Problematic? How so? In the art, she's still facing one direction and turned to the side. Is your problem that she's turned 38 degrees on the model instead of 32 degrees?
If you look at primary her top half, it feels like her torso is twisted a lot farther than it actually is. The angle of the photo makes it hard to see the direction her leg is pointed unless you really look for it.
The Nomad is not quite in the classic B&B position, but is close. It's the non standard boots -- they are nothing like other Nomad foot wear, that look silly.
Step and step and jazzhacker hands and step and step...
All the hero’s except the pano one seem slightly anatomically off but that could just be the pics.
Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis
Red Harvest wrote: The Nomad is not quite in the classic B&B position, but is close. It's the non standard boots -- they are nothing like other Nomad foot wear, that look silly.
I hadn't noticed the battle heels until you pointed them out - that's another unfortunate element. What's wrong with a decent pair of boots, especially if you know you're going to need to be at least semi-mobile? Sheesh.
Dysartes wrote: I'd've gone with the comic cover butt 'n' boobs pose on the hacker as being more problematic, myself.
Sculpt her as she was in that piece of art, minus the shouting, and I think she'd look much better.
Problematic? How so? In the art, she's still facing one direction and turned to the side. Is your problem that she's turned 38 degrees on the model instead of 32 degrees?
As noted, the similarity to the B&B pose is my primary issue. In the artwork, the twist to the spine doesn't appear to be anywhere near as extreme, and she seems to be effectively multi-tasking (shooting/hacking/SHOUTING). It feels a more natural pose, compared to the sculpt, which looks to me more about flaunting what she has.
And, as noted by Red Harvest, the heels should've been boots.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
I hadn't noticed the battle heels until you pointed them out - that's another unfortunate element. What's wrong with a decent pair of boots, especially if you know you're going to need to be at least semi-mobile? Sheesh.
Hold on. ... Yup... This is the Infinity thread. Thought I wandered into the Adeptus Sororitas thread by accident. If you are here to complain about sexy models in impractical footware, you are in the wrong place. It’s a bit like going into a Star Wars group and complaining that space ships shouldn’t make sound in the vacuum of space.
As noted, the similarity to the B&B pose is my primary issue.
That's a pity, I don't quite get why CB is making a boardgame that's seemingly not aimed at boardgamers? Surely they could've just released the models as "beyond whatever" pack instead if that's the case?
Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis
N4 huh? Did they say anything else about what it would entail? I mean, they spent all year selling three big hardback books (which admittedly was majority fluff) at a breakneck pace, and now N4 is only a year off?
I think N3 is an amazing system, but it could definitely clean up all the weapons, ammo types, and states - it's really excessive. I think they could organize the rules in a more model-centric manner (like putting all the rules pertinent to a model on a card) rather than rule-centric manner (all abilities listed together, all weapons, all ammo, all states, etc).
Edit: They don't even need to change the rules. Just organize them better.
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...And cull the herd. Remove at least half of the hacking programs. And... yeah. N4 ought to be N3 after a good weight loss prgram, lean and mean and ready to kick some tucus. There is plenty of fat to be trimmed.
Maybe more after I watch the vidya.
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With Defiance releasing stat cards for each usable model, perhaps N4 will have stat cards.
Perhaps CB finally caved in to releasing stat cards for models, but before they dedicate themselves to unit profiles as such, they're willing to consolidate and streamline the rules.
Pure speculation, of course.
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Yeah, none of the edition changes have been major overhauls, certainly nothing like Warhammer or Warmachine have been through. N2 was literally just a reprinting of the N1 rulebook with the errata included, a new cover and a few additional photos added. N2 to N3 was a much bigger change, but it was still mostly cleanup aside (CC and hacking were the biggest changes).
I fully expect the same from N4, I just hope they don't go overboard and prune too much away. The game is excellent as-is, just clean up the presentation, combine a few hacking programs down, re-work the points calculations for some of the mediocre models and boom, done. They might not even need to redo the Operation 2 player starters
If they don't have a concept, it's not going to happen. 
