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 Kanluwen wrote:
I'd imagine that won't be too big of a deal. Provided you keep with the 'safe' buys for the time being. Definitely get those Shikami ASAP.

I don’t follow... why would we want to scoop them up now? You expecting them to discontinue blisters and put them in a box?

Do we really expect JSA to be spun off entirely from Yu Jing? That kind of implies they’ll be getting 2 new sectorials to offset losing JSA.
Do we really expect invincible army and svarlheima sectorials to be fully fleshed out within the immediate future?

Realistically, it doesn't matter how many sectorials a faction has. They are, mechanically, completely separate factions that have some overlapping options in the model pool.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'd imagine that won't be too big of a deal. Provided you keep with the 'safe' buys for the time being. Definitely get those Shikami ASAP.

I don’t follow... why would we want to scoop them up now? You expecting them to discontinue blisters and put them in a box?

Because the really popular, fairly cool and new stuff tends to go out of stock when Infinity Week hits. Given that the blisters allow for you to build 8 unique Shikami(2 different arm options per model and 2 different head options) between the two, it's also a fairly good buy just for variation's sake. And God help you if the parts are compatible between the two.
The new Contender Shikami is basically a must have though. It's the model that is intended to be your "Duo" profile.

I would be 100% surprised if CB didn't try to plug the hell out of the Shikami during Infinity Week. Trying to make sure anyone who wants them gets them now so as to avoid disappointment later.

Do we really expect JSA to be spun off entirely from Yu Jing? That kind of implies they’ll be getting 2 new sectorials to offset losing JSA.
Do we really expect invincible army and svarlheima sectorials to be fully fleshed out within the immediate future?

Invincible Army is, as far as reports go, 'fairly close'.
Svalarheima isn't. It's going to be finished when finished, same as the PanO version(both of which were slated to be in the same book way back when but who the hell knows now).


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 LunarSol wrote:
Infinity is definitely not a game where rebuys are a huge deal; particularly if you're talking a sectoral and not a faction.

I feel like this is a yes/no. For some people it's not a huge deal--especially if there's a lengthy swathe of time between the two and the original product clearly hasn't aged well.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'd imagine that won't be too big of a deal. Provided you keep with the 'safe' buys for the time being. Definitely get those Shikami ASAP.

I don’t follow... why would we want to scoop them up now? You expecting them to discontinue blisters and put them in a box?

Because the really popular, fairly cool and new stuff tends to go out of stock when Infinity Week hits. Given that the blisters allow for you to build 8 unique Shikami(2 different arm options per model and 2 different head options) between the two, it's also a fairly good buy just for variation's sake. And God help you if the parts are compatible between the two.
The new Contender Shikami is basically a must have though. It's the model that is intended to be your "Duo" profile.

I would be 100% surprised if CB didn't try to plug the hell out of the Shikami during Infinity Week. Trying to make sure anyone who wants them gets them now so as to avoid disappointment later.

Do we really expect JSA to be spun off entirely from Yu Jing? That kind of implies they’ll be getting 2 new sectorials to offset losing JSA.
Do we really expect invincible army and svarlheima sectorials to be fully fleshed out within the immediate future?

Invincible Army is, as far as reports go, 'fairly close'.
Svalarheima isn't. It's going to be finished when finished, same as the PanO version(both of which were slated to be in the same book way back when but who the hell knows now).


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 LunarSol wrote:
Infinity is definitely not a game where rebuys are a huge deal; particularly if you're talking a sectoral and not a faction.

I feel like this is a yes/no. For some people it's not a huge deal--especially if there's a lengthy swathe of time between the two and the original product clearly hasn't aged well.

Wish they had released both together. Getting tired of consolidating older single model blister releases into 2 model blisters.

 LunarSol wrote:
Realistically, it doesn't matter how many sectorials a faction has. They are, mechanically, completely separate factions that have some overlapping options in the model pool.

That is, of course, not considering the generic army list.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

Wish they had released both together. Getting tired of consolidating older single model blister releases into 2 model blisters.

Agreed.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Henshini wrote:
The batou looking guy is definitely a ryuken, says so on his shoulder. That leaves the major to be the delegate or a pilot for the S5 daemon or maybe even the controller of a gsynced daemon. Or maybe daemon in the name refers to ai and they are a pair and jsa gets ghost:jumper.

The Delegate isn't in the box art. The S5 Heavy Infantry isn't related to it.

The 'Major' also has the same pauldron as not-Batou.

The designs on those shoulders look nothing alike to me unless you count them both being white designs on red. But it does make sense for them both to be unit/section 9.

Right. One, the 'Major' is a hacker, or at least has a hacker visor ( maybe?), and the other, well its weapon is not seen in the illustration, but I hear that it is a Heavy Rocket Launcher.

Is the Beasts of War Infinity Week next week?

 Red Harvest wrote:
Right. One, the 'Major' is a hacker, or at least has a hacker visor ( maybe?), and the other, well its weapon is not seen in the illustration, but I hear that it is a Heavy Rocket Launcher.

Is the Beasts of War Infinity Week next week?

Unfortunately no infinity profile will capture the badass that is the Major.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:


Unfortunately no infinity profile will capture the badass that is the Major.

I rarely ever look at the Infinity thread. This time, it was well worth it, want that on my tombstone lol

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
Right. One, the 'Major' is a hacker, or at least has a hacker visor ( maybe?), and the other, well its weapon is not seen in the illustration, but I hear that it is a Heavy Rocket Launcher.

Is the Beasts of War Infinity Week next week?

Unfortunately no infinity profile will capture the badass that is the Major.

A named character Asura for Aleph would capture the Major perfectly, I think. They're basically the same thing.

With the talk of a Vedic sectorial, I expect some resculpted asuras. CB might name one after a cosplayer, Yashia, who cosplayed the asura. they gave her name to an asura in the HSN3 book too. It would be a dire foe, I'd suppose, rather than a regular character.

 MajorTom11 wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:


Unfortunately no infinity profile will capture the badass that is the Major.

I rarely ever look at the Infinity thread. This time, it was well worth it, want that on my tombstone lol

Bienvenu, notre ami. Look in more often, and see the cool minis. I bet you would enjoy painting some...

..and posting the photos of the painted minis in your P&M blog (to which I recently subscribed ) It will be win-win. Allez-y!

I love the minis, just always hooked on something else... one day. Et merci

Well, I bugged my Warcor and he wouldn't let anything slip except that the "preorder" mini for the army pack isn't listed on the leaked image.

Also, he said (and I quote) "PanO players will cry".

I've seen the mini.

I am a "PanO player".

I feel no impulse to cry.

Well, maybe at the fact that the Svalarheima sectorial is seemingly delayed, again, and I'll have to wait that much longer for Nisses and Jotum link teams...

 The Infinite wrote:
Kuroshi is black death (Name?)

Aragato Senkenbutai we know is the bikers.

Riku-Gun-Shoi

Shoi is probably 2nd lieutenant (properly Shoui but I can't think of anything else it could be)
riku-gun, might be "6th cadre"

So, that bike rider with the cat (fox?) ears is called "The Black Death" 2nd Lt, Aragato Senkenbutai, 6th cadre.

(I say fox as the "cat" character in JSA is a male while the "fox" character, despite the fluff, is a female, like the rider in the image).

Rigukun simply means "army", for what's worth. The "shoi" part I'm not sure it they're meaning to say "shoui" or "chui", which would be 2nd lieutenant and lieutenant, respectively.


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 Kanluwen wrote:
Good to know! Any insight on the Daiyokai Dengekitai?

Hm... the "dai" means "great", and it's used when naming organizations. Youkai is a type of spirit/demon. Dengeki usually means "electric shock", whereas "-tai" is a diminutive of "butai", meaning "unit".

 -Loki- wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Realistically, it doesn't matter how many sectorials a faction has. They are, mechanically, completely separate factions that have some overlapping options in the model pool.

That is, of course, not considering the generic army list.

There's a heavy correlation between "available to a sectorial" and "available to the generic army" but its not a hard and fast rule by any means. Every army has models exclusively available via sectorial and every army has models available to them that are not available to any of their sectorials as well. Personally, I'd be surprised if things like Ninja disappear from YJ with one being part of the Red Veil 300 pt army.

The point is that it doesn't matter in any way what faction JSA is filed under in the army builder. You play it as its own thing no different from any other faction option. The only difference is you already have a chunk of models that work for another faction if you were interested in doing so.

Oh look, it's a teaser...

 Alpharius wrote:
I've seen the mini.

I am a "PanO player".

I feel no impulse to cry.

Well, maybe at the fact that the Svalarheima sectorial is seemingly delayed, again, and I'll have to wait that much longer for Nisses and Jotum link teams...

I think he was referring to profiles/options, so expect a feuerbach on a LI/MI/HI before PanO gets one, or REMs in links, or some other thing that they've been clamouring for (or even Monofilament Dropbears!)

Ah, yes, you might be on to something there!

 The Infinite wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I've seen the mini.

I am a "PanO player".

I feel no impulse to cry.

Well, maybe at the fact that the Svalarheima sectorial is seemingly delayed, again, and I'll have to wait that much longer for Nisses and Jotum link teams...

I think he was referring to profiles/options, so expect a feuerbach on a LI/MI/HI before PanO gets one, or REMs in links, or some other thing that they've been clamouring for (or even Monofilament Dropbears!)

If we're going to be honest, most PanO players realize they're going to get the shaft. I was the one who initially was suggesting for NCA to get Remotes in Bolt Link Teams along with smaller, multiple Link Teams quite publicly on the Infinity forums before the changeover to the crummy new system.

Wasn't shocked one bit to see the idea get stolen for Druze.

Many PanO players could, at this point, post up rational and well-reasoned arguments as to why they should or should not be given something and it would be dismissed by certain players as "crying" or "whining.

Sadly, many WarCors are those who would be doing the dismissals.

Just why does CB (allegedly) 'have it in for' PanO players?

LunarSol wrote:
There's a heavy correlation between "available to a sectorial" and "available to the generic army" but its not a hard and fast rule by any means. Every army has models exclusively available via sectorial and every army has models available to them that are not available to any of their sectorials as well. Personally, I'd be surprised if things like Ninja disappear from YJ with one being part of the Red Veil 300 pt army.

The point is that it doesn't matter in any way what faction JSA is filed under in the army builder. You play it as its own thing no different from any other faction option. The only difference is you already have a chunk of models that work for another faction if you were interested in doing so.

The thing to remember is that a unit like the Ninjas can literally exist in both normal YJ and a JSA renegade faction, since the Ninja "Clans" are a thing that YJ seems to have allowed to continue to exist so they could have deniable operatives. It's like the Bandits and Corregidor; they're a group that effectively could do their own thing but are supplied by the faction as a smokescreen for their own operations.

Alpharius wrote:Just why does CB (allegedly) 'have it in for' PanO players?

Depends on who you ask. Putting it bluntly, it's less that they 'have it in for' PanO players and more they suffer from the fact that CB seems to consider PanO like how they did during their RPG sessions where purportedly PanO were always 'the evil empire' while they played the plucky heroes.

It also seems to be the faction where they have the least designer interest involved so things just kinda...'stay'.

I don't hope for a sincere answer on that question.

 Alpharius wrote:
I've seen the mini.

I am a "PanO player".

I feel no impulse to cry.

Well, maybe at the fact that the Svalarheima sectorial is seemingly delayed, again, and I'll have to wait that much longer for Nisses and Jotum link teams...

Svalarheima hasn’t been delayed. Varuna has been known to be next for quite a while now.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I've seen the mini.

I am a "PanO player".

I feel no impulse to cry.

Well, maybe at the fact that the Svalarheima sectorial is seemingly delayed, again, and I'll have to wait that much longer for Nisses and Jotum link teams...

Svalarheima hasn’t been delayed. Varuna has been known to be next for quite a while now.

This is only technically true.

Svalarheima hasn't been pushed out of its slot in a specific book, certainly, however that book has been pushed back quite a bit.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I've seen the mini.

I am a "PanO player".

I feel no impulse to cry.

Well, maybe at the fact that the Svalarheima sectorial is seemingly delayed, again, and I'll have to wait that much longer for Nisses and Jotum link teams...

Svalarheima hasn’t been delayed. Varuna has been known to be next for quite a while now.

This is only technically true.

Svalarheima hasn't been pushed out of its slot in a specific book, certainly, however that book has been pushed back quite a bit.

Okay sure, but no recent developments have pushed it back. It’s been a way off for a long time.

Kanluwen wrote:

LunarSol wrote:
There's a heavy correlation between "available to a sectorial" and "available to the generic army" but its not a hard and fast rule by any means. Every army has models exclusively available via sectorial and every army has models available to them that are not available to any of their sectorials as well. Personally, I'd be surprised if things like Ninja disappear from YJ with one being part of the Red Veil 300 pt army.

The point is that it doesn't matter in any way what faction JSA is filed under in the army builder. You play it as its own thing no different from any other faction option. The only difference is you already have a chunk of models that work for another faction if you were interested in doing so.

The thing to remember is that a unit like the Ninjas can literally exist in both normal YJ and a JSA renegade faction, since the Ninja "Clans" are a thing that YJ seems to have allowed to continue to exist so they could have deniable operatives. It's like the Bandits and Corregidor; they're a group that effectively could do their own thing but are supplied by the faction as a smokescreen for their own operations.

Alpharius wrote:Just why does CB (allegedly) 'have it in for' PanO players?

Depends on who you ask. Putting it bluntly, it's less that they 'have it in for' PanO players and more they suffer from the fact that CB seems to consider PanO like how they did during their RPG sessions where purportedly PanO were always 'the evil empire' while they played the plucky heroes.

It also seems to be the faction where they have the least designer interest involved so things just kinda...'stay'.

Knight wrote:I don't hope for a sincere answer on that question.

Kan just gave us one!

Kanluwen wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I've seen the mini.

I am a "PanO player".

I feel no impulse to cry.

Well, maybe at the fact that the Svalarheima sectorial is seemingly delayed, again, and I'll have to wait that much longer for Nisses and Jotum link teams...

Svalarheima hasn’t been delayed. Varuna has been known to be next for quite a while now.

This is only technically true.

Svalarheima hasn't been pushed out of its slot in a specific book, certainly, however that book has been pushed back quite a bit.

Exactly.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Okay sure, but no recent developments have pushed it back. It’s been a way off for a long time.

...Bwuh?!

N3 pushed it back.
Human Sphere N3 pushed it back.
Paradiso N3(which is where Varuna and the other Sectorials are supposed to be coming in) pushed it back.
Hell, we have a new 'arena fighter' game that came out before the book that was slated to be next.

Yes, absolutely "recent developments have pushed it back".

I think this business with the Non-Aligned armies is new. It has pushed back completion of other sectorials.

 Alpharius wrote:
I've seen the mini.

What is the pre-order mini anyway? It's not the CSU-Geisha, er Kuge Delegate.