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 Togusa wrote:
So is there a lore reason as to why FTL not involving the warp isn't a thing?

When I was quite a bit younger I had many assumptions about the Tau, and little access to the fluff. I always assumed their big thing was that their technology was so good they didn't need the warp. Obviously, I was wrong on that, but why couldn't this just be a thing?

Necrons used to be able to do it - its a bit vague if they can do it now.

As I understand it you need to do something major to go faster than light?

 Mr Morden wrote:
Orks have not been scheduled that I am aware of yet

It might be that all those who got stuff in Chapter Approved all get Codexes - but then Custodians did...

If the CA races get them we still have the following to come

Orks - certain, maybe a char model
Space Wolves - certain, its a Marine Codex so new models - Primaris Wolves all Wulfed up
Genestealer Cults - certain,
Knights - certain, new models

Sisters - might do it, needs models but....

I am guessing Wolves as the next Dex, then Knights and Orks.

Also likely Emperors Children

As I understand it, popular convention has

Tau, Necrons = March
Drukhari, H'arlequins = April
Space Wolves = May
Orks = June

I am dubious about Knights getting another codex, mainly because I just never saw a point in the first one.

Sisters of Battle, likely needs a massive rework and redesign. The demand is there, and I'm sure at some point there will be a delivery. However, did anyone else notice that Ultramarines now have their own tab on the GW website? I'm willing to be they will get their own codex, just like they had in 2nd? Codex Primaris is also likely a thing. Gravis Captains, Chapter Ancients, and Lieutenants still have no official release outside of Dark Imperium. Emperors Children and World Eaters are almost certainly a garuntee.

It's painfully obvious that we will see

Magnus
Mortarion
Angron
Fulgrim

With the possibility of seeing models for Perterabo and Lorgar.

Then for the Loyalists,

Roboute

Probably:
Vulkan
Russ
Corax (?)
Dorn (?)
Khan (?)

I could see them going the route of having the loyalists get more primarchs, but they're less powerful when compared to the warp enhanced brothers.

So one thing I do want to say is that I hope they do not get too bogged down with releasing a whole bunch of new factions with only 4 entries for units. I'd much rather like to see aspect warriors and a lot of the old finecast stuff redone the same way we saw the new cryptek.

The Ultramarines didn't really have a Codex in 2nd edition, that was just the standard Space Marine Codex.

 Burnage wrote:
The Ultramarines didn't really have a Codex in 2nd edition, that was just the standard Space Marine Codex.

Yes, which included only Ultramarine Special Characters, and featured only Ultramarines. Yes it was the basic, but it was also Ultramarine.

 Togusa wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Orks have not been scheduled that I am aware of yet

It might be that all those who got stuff in Chapter Approved all get Codexes - but then Custodians did...

If the CA races get them we still have the following to come

Orks - certain, maybe a char model
Space Wolves - certain, its a Marine Codex so new models - Primaris Wolves all Wulfed up
Genestealer Cults - certain,
Knights - certain, new models

Sisters - might do it, needs models but....

I am guessing Wolves as the next Dex, then Knights and Orks.

Also likely Emperors Children

As I understand it, popular convention has

Tau, Necrons = March
Drukhari, H'arlequins = April
Space Wolves = May
Orks = June

I am dubious about Knights getting another codex, mainly because I just never saw a point in the first one.

Sisters of Battle, likely needs a massive rework and redesign. The demand is there, and I'm sure at some point there will be a delivery. However, did anyone else notice that Ultramarines now have their own tab on the GW website? I'm willing to be they will get their own codex, just like they had in 2nd? Codex Primaris is also likely a thing. Gravis Captains, Chapter Ancients, and Lieutenants still have no official release outside of Dark Imperium. Emperors Children and World Eaters are almost certainly a garuntee.

It's painfully obvious that we will see

Magnus
Mortarion
Angron
Fulgrim

With the possibility of seeing models for Perterabo and Lorgar.

Then for the Loyalists,

Roboute

Probably:
Vulkan
Russ
Corax (?)
Dorn (?)
Khan (?)

I could see them going the route of having the loyalists get more primarchs, but they're less powerful when compared to the warp enhanced brothers.

So one thing I do want to say is that I hope they do not get too bogged down with releasing a whole bunch of new factions with only 4 entries for units. I'd much rather like to see aspect warriors and a lot of the old finecast stuff redone the same way we saw the new cryptek.

Knights are getting new models so they will get a new codex. Ultramarines probably won't get a new dex cause they have the SM dex and like 10 characters in it. All of the primarchs will probably get models and rules. It'd be silly not to. People are gobbling up the models and GW isn't stupid enough to let fluff get in the way of $$$.

..

 Togusa wrote:
So is there a lore reason as to why FTL not involving the warp isn't a thing?

When I was quite a bit younger I had many assumptions about the Tau, and little access to the fluff. I always assumed their big thing was that their technology was so good they didn't need the warp. Obviously, I was wrong on that, but why couldn't this just be a thing?

FTL without the warp is a thing, the necrons have Inertialess drives that allow them to go FTL by accelerating endlessly, so they can get up to very very fast speeds. The tyranids also have a specialized bio ships that allow "slow" faster than light travel (taking a few years instead of hundreds). There is also things like wormholes, and time travel (though technically speaking any FTL is arguably time travel), that allow you to get the same effect.

I think they will finish the basic codexes and then start a wave of expanded codexes for specific forces. I can certainly see each original legion eventually getting a codex, probably starting with The Emperor's Children and World eaters since they are each dedicated to a specific chaos god.

I could also see a White Scar's codex even though they are a Codex Chapter just because of their different focus and stormcallers. Salamanders, and Raven Guard are specialized enough to earn future codex too I think. I am really surprised we don't have Black Templar codex too.

I hope that the Sisters of Battle get the major line update and codex just to make so many people happy.

Thanks,
Duncan

They already told us which existing factions will get codexes in CA 2017:

Sisters of battle
Deathwatch
Dark eldar
Genestealer cults
Harelquins
Imperial knights
Necrons
Orks
Space wolves
Tau
Thousand sons (just got theirs)

It's not really a mystery when they said all of these factions will get a codex to literally quote the book

This section is therefore designed to give these patient players a set of rules to use in the interim until the codex for their Faction is released.

 Grimgold wrote:
It's not really a mystery when they said all of these factions will get a codex to literally quote the book

This section is therefore designed to give these patient players a set of rules to use in the interim until the codex for their Faction is released.

You are really over-confident in GW's writing ability if you think that confirms those factions getting a codex. Remember how they write their rules lol.

 vadersson wrote:
I think they will finish the basic codexes and then start a wave of expanded codexes for specific forces. I can certainly see each original legion eventually getting a codex, probably starting with The Emperor's Children and World eaters since they are each dedicated to a specific chaos god.

I could also see a White Scar's codex even though they are a Codex Chapter just because of their different focus and stormcallers. Salamanders, and Raven Guard are specialized enough to earn future codex too I think. I am really surprised we don't have Black Templar codex too.

I hope that the Sisters of Battle get the major line update and codex just to make so many people happy.

Thanks,
Duncan

Many of the Chapters have as much character and speclalisation as the oh so special ones that got a codex, it was only the increasing flanderisaiton that gave them their "unique" units. Rather than lots of Codexes - books with background, couple of characters, relics etc for a few dozen chapters would be much better and less chance of Wulfy Wulf Wolfness infecting other Chapters.

Again a Codex for each Chaos Power would be have been great rather than what they did

 Davespil wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Orks have not been scheduled that I am aware of yet

It might be that all those who got stuff in Chapter Approved all get Codexes - but then Custodians did...

If the CA races get them we still have the following to come

Orks - certain, maybe a char model
Space Wolves - certain, its a Marine Codex so new models - Primaris Wolves all Wulfed up
Genestealer Cults - certain,
Knights - certain, new models

Sisters - might do it, needs models but....

I am guessing Wolves as the next Dex, then Knights and Orks.

Also likely Emperors Children

As I understand it, popular convention has

Tau, Necrons = March
Drukhari, H'arlequins = April
Space Wolves = May
Orks = June

I am dubious about Knights getting another codex, mainly because I just never saw a point in the first one.

Sisters of Battle, likely needs a massive rework and redesign. The demand is there, and I'm sure at some point there will be a delivery. However, did anyone else notice that Ultramarines now have their own tab on the GW website? I'm willing to be they will get their own codex, just like they had in 2nd? Codex Primaris is also likely a thing. Gravis Captains, Chapter Ancients, and Lieutenants still have no official release outside of Dark Imperium. Emperors Children and World Eaters are almost certainly a garuntee.

It's painfully obvious that we will see

Magnus
Mortarion
Angron
Fulgrim

With the possibility of seeing models for Perterabo and Lorgar.

Then for the Loyalists,

Roboute

Probably:
Vulkan
Russ
Corax (?)
Dorn (?)
Khan (?)

I could see them going the route of having the loyalists get more primarchs, but they're less powerful when compared to the warp enhanced brothers.

So one thing I do want to say is that I hope they do not get too bogged down with releasing a whole bunch of new factions with only 4 entries for units. I'd much rather like to see aspect warriors and a lot of the old finecast stuff redone the same way we saw the new cryptek.

Knights are getting new models so they will get a new codex. Ultramarines probably won't get a new dex cause they have the SM dex and like 10 characters in it. All of the primarchs will probably get models and rules. It'd be silly not to. People are gobbling up the models and GW isn't stupid enough to let fluff get in the way of $$$.

that knight is Admech though?

If you ask me, that codex is not needed.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Grimgold wrote:
It's not really a mystery when they said all of these factions will get a codex to literally quote the book

This section is therefore designed to give these patient players a set of rules to use in the interim until the codex for their Faction is released.

You are really over-confident in GW's writing ability if you think that confirms those factions getting a codex. Remember how they write their rules lol.

I'm really not sure what you want man, skywriting, a notarized declaration of intent, a contract singed in blood? They said those factions are all getting codexes in as unambiguous a way as they have ever communicated. The only mysteries left, are what order, what are the dates, and if we will get another surprise codex like custodes.

 Togusa wrote:

that knight is Admech though?

If you ask me, that codex is not needed.

There's no such thing as an AdMech-only Knight, only Knightly Household Knights. There's no way they'd release a Questor Mechanicus-only Knight, particularly since they've already released the Adeptus Mechanicus codex. We know from Chapter Approved that Imperial Knight-only armies are definitely a thing, as it gave specifically worded rules so that you could have an Imperial Knight Warlord. An entire codex for a handful of units may seem farfetched, but who expected an Adeptus Custodes codex? As I've heard it, current rumours indicate that the Armiger Warglaive kit will probably be able to be built in at least 2 patterns, possibly 4, which makes sense considering the Imperial Knight itself can be built into 5 different patterns.

Scarey Nerd wrote:
There's no such thing as an AdMech Knight...

'AdMech Knight' would be a Knight belonging to a House aligned with the Adeptus Mechanicus (e.g., a Knight from House Krast).

But they don't use AdMech-only knight patterns, as Togusa implied. They Armiger preview was painted like an Mechanicus-dedicated house, and all Knightly houses are aligned with the AdMech in some way, but as far as we've seen, the AdMech allows the Knightly Houses to use any Knight pattern.

Imperial Knights should just stay within the Ad Mech book. Honestly, IK shouldn't have had their own book from the onset.

There's a rumour of a Kult of Speed specific codex which would make a ton of sense to me. So hopefully races other than marines will get some sub faction codexes too.

v0iddrgn wrote:
Imperial Knights should just stay within the Ad Mech book. Honestly, IK shouldn't have had their own book from the onset.

You might be of that mind set but plenty of people have IK armies these days.

There are more Imperium-dedicated Knightly Houses than AdMech-dedicated.

BrianDavion wrote:

v0iddrgn wrote:
Imperial Knights should just stay within the Ad Mech book. Honestly, IK shouldn't have had their own book from the onset.

You might be of that mind set but plenty of people have IK armies these days.

They released a single kit and said, "Now you can have an army of THIS!". That just doesn't make any sense and it never did.

They're expanding the line with at least one new kit that is rumored to have between two and four variant builds. The fact you dislike something doesn't make it invalid.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Grimgold wrote:
It's not really a mystery when they said all of these factions will get a codex to literally quote the book

This section is therefore designed to give these patient players a set of rules to use in the interim until the codex for their Faction is released.

You are really over-confident in GW's writing ability if you think that confirms those factions getting a codex. Remember how they write their rules lol.

However better arqument is money. Doing codex is like print money for them. Can be quick&easy to do but sure to sell.

 EnTyme wrote:
They're expanding the line with at least one new kit that is rumored to have between two and four variant builds. The fact you dislike something doesn't make it invalid.

and more to the point GW seems to be doing their best to ensure that no army with a codex is going to be rendered invalid.

v0iddrgn wrote:
Imperial Knights should just stay within the Ad Mech book. Honestly, IK shouldn't have had their own book from the onset.

The first Codex actually had lots of interresting and new story and in-universe information - more so than the majority fo 7th Ed Codexes which were sorely lacking in either. They actually did abit about the society and even discussed those other than Knights.

Of coruse the second version dropped alot of that and they never bothered to actually make models of the household beyond the Knights but it was certainly a better read than most.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Orks have not been scheduled that I am aware of yet

It might be that all those who got stuff in Chapter Approved all get Codexes - but then Custodians did...

If the CA races get them we still have the following to come

Orks - certain, maybe a char model
Space Wolves - certain, its a Marine Codex so new models - Primaris Wolves all Wulfed up
Genestealer Cults - certain,
Knights - certain, new models

Sisters - might do it, needs models but....

I am guessing Wolves as the next Dex, then Knights and Orks.

Also likely Emperors Children

I am actually betting the wolves get the first female marines. Cats out the bag fluff wise from what I have been told and shield maidens would be the most fitting of all the chapters.

The first IK codex was IIRC released quite a while before the two AM books. So GW had to either release a stand alone book for them or attach them to another force, and of course by making them a independent faction they could sell them to all Imperial players.

 Red Corsair wrote:

I am actually betting the wolves get the first female marines. Cats out the bag fluff wise from what I have been told and shield maidens would be the most fitting of all the chapters.

I dunno. That bit in Ashes could easily be nothing more than the musings of a in universe character. Of course it could also be laying the groundwork for female SW. I guess only GW's top brass and the writer would know for now.

 Grimgold wrote:
I'm really not sure what you want man, skywriting, a notarized declaration of intent, a contract singed in blood?

I would like some precise plan in an official announcement.
Something like a post on the GW Community website saying:
- We are planning to release the following: Codex Blah, Codex Blih, Codex Whatever, … You can expect Codex X to arrive at the beginning of [month], followed by codex Y in [another month], and codex Z in [some time]. We will give more information on the release date of the other codecies in later announcements.

 Grimgold wrote:
They said those factions are all getting codexes in as unambiguous a way as they have ever communicated.

I'm still not sure if Sisters will have a codex, share one with other models, or be left with the index. And yeah, I don't put any faith in a throwaway line that may perfectly be true for most of the factions but not all of them.

tneva82 wrote:
However better arqument is money. Doing codex is like print money for them. Can be quick&easy to do but sure to sell.

It was true before and yet Sisters went several editions without a printed codex, or even a readily available one (when they only had the rules in an unavailable anymore WD). Not to mention the lack of translation.
Soooooooo… no, not a convincing argument to me. Sorry.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

I would like some precise plan in an official announcement.
Something like a post on the GW Community website saying:
- We are planning to release the following: Codex Blah, Codex Blih, Codex Whatever, … You can expect Codex X to arrive at the beginning of [month], followed by codex Y in [another month], and codex Z in [some time]. We will give more information on the release date of the other codecies in later announcements.

Because putting it into a book isn't official enough?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

I'm still not sure if Sisters will have a codex, share one with other models, or be left with the index. And yeah, I don't put any faith in a throwaway line that may perfectly be true for most of the factions but not all of them.

They were literally called out by their faction keyword, Adeptus Sororitas, that is as specific as saying space wolves will get codex. It was not a throwaway line, and it jives perfectly with what they've said in the past, that every faction from 7th ed will get a codex in 8th ed.

 Grimgold wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

I'm still not sure if Sisters will have a codex, share one with other models, or be left with the index. And yeah, I don't put any faith in a throwaway line that may perfectly be true for most of the factions but not all of them.

They were literally called out by their faction keyword, Adeptus Sororitas, that is as specific as saying space wolves will get codex. It was not a throwaway line, and it jives perfectly with what they've said in the past, that every faction from 7th ed will get a codex in 8th ed.

If every faction from 7th gets a codex in 8th, then maybe there is yet hope that they'll bring back Khorne Daemonkin. I'd love to see this happen, with a newly reworked Blood Tithe table (that was the coolest part of that codex IMO).