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Cheaper wyches with an extra attack at S4 (with the right obsession) and combat drugs?!?

Yes please!

You know...I think wyches might actually be good.

+1S obsession definitely seems like a pretty clear winner trait-wise, unless you're going for a bunch of turn 1 charges. The addition of the Commissar Morale thing definitely puts it solidly over the top. That's a pretty awesome combo.

Strife is OK (I'm thinking access to a much-improved Lelith might help this one look better in comparison if she got buffs).

Confirmation that the Succubus did not get locked into her kit build (with the Agonizer/Glaive) and instead gets to keep access to the blast pistol is good news. That Glaive desperately needs some kind of buff to damage to make her good at what she's supposed to do, though.

We're still waiting on details for special weapons, but I think between +1A, -2pts, and a 6++ vs shooting wyches might be...not..terrible now. Weird.

Which cult does Lelith belong to?

changemod wrote:
Which cult does Lelith belong to?

Strife.
Wyches really got a good boost. They're actually decent, especially if Venoms got better (lower point cost or a transport capacity of 6).

changemod wrote:
Which cult does Lelith belong to?

Strife, the +1A one.

Okay, so at 8 points each with 3 attacks and their pistol before traits and drugs, they're actually reasonable anti-GEQ.

With +1A and +1S they make back about 70% of their points vs Infantry. Which is great and better than Genestealers. Actually getting them there is going to be an issue and I'm still not sure you want to take them without reasonable stratagem support, but this is definitely worth a look.

Idk, with 3" from a raider plus an 8" move then advance and charge from red grief, they seem pretty easy to pull a turn 1 assault off with. Sure they will hit the screen, but it looks like thats what they are going to be tailored for.

I mean jet bikes seem insane from red grief as well. 26" move before charging with fly? A 3 man unit will be nearly impossible to screen out from back fields. Tagging their ranged support seems laughably simple.

I wonder if they remembered to take the drugs off Lelith

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 Red Corsair wrote:
Idk, with 3" from a raider plus an 8" move then advance and charge from red grief, they seem pretty easy to pull a turn 1 assault off with. Sure they will hit the screen, but it looks like thats what they are going to be tailored for.

I mean jet bikes seem insane from red grief as well. 26" move before charging with fly? A 3 man unit will be nearly impossible to screen out from back fields. Tagging their ranged support seems laughably simple.

The other nice thing about Red Grief is the possibility to pull off turn 1 charges from deep strike with the webway strat. That bump from 51% odds to about 70% odds is pretty nice. It's definitely the "alpha strike" version of the wych cults. Overall I think Strife is going to be made or broken by how good Lelith is in the codex, but the other two seem to have good pros and cons.

Sucks that we have the worst fight twice strat in the game so far, given we are the "speedygofast" melee army. Hilariously though, it seems to have absolutely no conflict with Soulburst as Ynnari are currently written.

Imagine a perfect storm where a unit of 20 Ynnari wyches miraculously starts the psychic phase 4" away from enemy units and uninjured. Using doubled combat drugs, they have 5A each for the round.

Word of the pheonix - Fight as if it's the Fight Phase - pile in, make 101 attacks
Fight phase - 101 attacks, use Stratagem
Stratagem, 101 attacks.

I hope you brought extra dice, because you need 303 of them.

EDIT: no, wait, actually you just need to end the movement phase within 4" of an enemy unit. Unless I'm reading it wrong, Word of the Pheonix allows you to make a pile in move and fight as if it were the fight phase. So you can just waltz into combat, ignoring overwatch.

Screw ynnari lol.

EDIT: The total is actually 303, because you can only soulburst once per turn, but I forgot doubled attack drugs.

Looks like Reavers are up to 18" move base now, +2" from the drug and they don't need advance and charge to get stuck in turn 1.

I'm liking Wyches, they may actually be something other than an auto loose now.


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Hellions with Cursed Blade Obsession, +1S combat drug and the stratagem to double the drug become S7.

 Imateria wrote:
Looks like Reavers are up to 18" move base now, +2" from the drug and they don't need advance and charge to get stuck in turn 1.

I'm liking Wyches, they may actually be something other than an auto loose now.


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Hellions with Cursed Blade Obsession, +1S combat drug and the stratagem to double the drug become S7.

S7 hellions is pretty nasty lol.

I would absolutely love to see Hellions finally become a unit to reckon with.

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Hmm. I toyed with the idea of an almost all Reaver army when 8th dropped. I'll have to give them another look when the codex comes out.

Well I am glad to see my mandrakes will get much better, I liked them before, I cannot imagine them having more AP lol. My corpse Thief claw also is excited. I really hope they fixed all the weapons, they were wet tissue paper in the index.

Excited to see the Talos at the top of the 'Most improved' list there - really looking forward to this codex!

 Red Corsair wrote:
Well I am glad to see my mandrakes will get much better, I liked them before, I cannot imagine them having more AP lol. My corpse Thief claw also is excited. I really hope they fixed all the weapons, they were wet tissue paper in the index.

My mandrakes have been MVPs in several games, I can't believe they're getting even better!

 docdoom77 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Well I am glad to see my mandrakes will get much better, I liked them before, I cannot imagine them having more AP lol. My corpse Thief claw also is excited. I really hope they fixed all the weapons, they were wet tissue paper in the index.

My mandrakes have been MVPs in several games, I can't believe they're getting even better!

Same here, the 18" range allows them to deploy and still shoot stuff up. If they bumped to ap-2 I might start to feel even dirtier taking 20.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 docdoom77 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Well I am glad to see my mandrakes will get much better, I liked them before, I cannot imagine them having more AP lol. My corpse Thief claw also is excited. I really hope they fixed all the weapons, they were wet tissue paper in the index.

My mandrakes have been MVPs in several games, I can't believe they're getting even better!

Same here, the 18" range allows them to deploy and still shoot stuff up. If they bumped to ap-2 I might start to feel even dirtier taking 20.

Too bad the models are all super expensive finecast. I converted 10 using Dryads (just cut off the leaves, really), but someday, I might replace them with tree revenants now that they exist. They're more mandrake-y.

 docdoom77 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 docdoom77 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Well I am glad to see my mandrakes will get much better, I liked them before, I cannot imagine them having more AP lol. My corpse Thief claw also is excited. I really hope they fixed all the weapons, they were wet tissue paper in the index.

My mandrakes have been MVPs in several games, I can't believe they're getting even better!

Same here, the 18" range allows them to deploy and still shoot stuff up. If they bumped to ap-2 I might start to feel even dirtier taking 20.

Too bad the models are all super expensive finecast. I converted 10 using Dryads (just cut off the leaves, really), but someday, I might replace them with tree revenants now that they exist. They're more mandrake-y.

New fish elf sword guys are to me the perfect plastic mandrake proxy. I like the creepy eyeless face better than the weird shadow samurai vibe theyve got going on now.

I made mine using scourge and wych legs, with vampire count ghoul torsos, wrack arms and dark elf executioner and sisters of slaugher heads. They look incredibly creepy and dynamic.

the_scotsman wrote:

 docdoom77 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 docdoom77 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Well I am glad to see my mandrakes will get much better, I liked them before, I cannot imagine them having more AP lol. My corpse Thief claw also is excited. I really hope they fixed all the weapons, they were wet tissue paper in the index.

My mandrakes have been MVPs in several games, I can't believe they're getting even better!

Same here, the 18" range allows them to deploy and still shoot stuff up. If they bumped to ap-2 I might start to feel even dirtier taking 20.

Too bad the models are all super expensive finecast. I converted 10 using Dryads (just cut off the leaves, really), but someday, I might replace them with tree revenants now that they exist. They're more mandrake-y.

New fish elf sword guys are to me the perfect plastic mandrake proxy. I like the creepy eyeless face better than the weird shadow samurai vibe theyve got going on now.

You're right! Deepkin models, here I come!

 Red Corsair wrote:
I made mine using scourge and wych legs, with vampire count ghoul torsos, wrack arms and dark elf executioner and sisters of slaugher heads. They look incredibly creepy and dynamic.

You can also get with anyone who's building Dark Riders instead of Doomfire Warlocks and grab those leftover parts.

Is anyone else annoyed how inspired this codex is compared to the AdMech one? Or how inspired the Necron codex is to the AdMech one?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Is anyone else annoyed how inspired this codex is compared to the AdMech one? Or how inspired the Necron codex is to the AdMech one?

GW started off with the standard 'chapter tactics' and such in Chaos Marines and Space Marines. From there, they did plenty of copy-pasting over the next 6 codexes. Now, they're realizing that they have to push the bill a little if these xenos armies are going to behave any differently than any others.

Considering how quickly they're pushing out these codexes, it's no surprise that some would feel left in the dust. I think that they did right by the AdMech with what they had, but AdMech just suffer from not having certain models that they need. Dark Eldar as a range are much larger than AdMech, so there's more to play with rules-wise.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Is anyone else annoyed how inspired this codex is compared to the AdMech one? Or how inspired the Necron codex is to the AdMech one?

Some codexes are pretty damn old in the timeline. The community only really found it's legs in the game by September when big tournaments and codexes made their debut, so the experience on GW's end was pretty limited. It also helps that DE are very multi-faceted on their own.

Don't forget that the Drukhari have also had a lot of attrition over the years. We lost a lot of HQ and then flavor. Feels like they are trying to compensate for how gakky they've been to the factions.

Now only if they'd make some plastic Grots and Mandrakes.

 Ghaz wrote:
Hmm. I toyed with the idea of an almost all Reaver army when 8th dropped. I'll have to give them another look when the codex comes out.

I've got the fixings for one amassed in my closet Never pulled the trigger due to Reaver gimpiness and their speed being somewhat shruggable in a world of deep striking things, but I'd be lying if I haven't been excited to hear Wych Cult updates

- Salvage