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Well, I'm actually considering this now. I guess I can try and help you out.

I sincerely hope for backers' sakes that DP9 doesn't have to unilaterally roll back stretch goals if they hit a bump on the road down the line like they did last time. Doubling the sprues for zero additional funding (above the initial funding goal that is) leaves alot less wiggle room and might also affect international shipping costs a year from now.

You'd think the Pod would be smart enough to hedge or escrow the US spend this time, but I sincerely doubt it. Currency fluctuation is probably an mysterious risk for the Pod.
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ETA - on the plus side, they pulled in $1.1k yesterday!


On the minus side, they still need to raise over $9k in the next couple days or it fails.


They're going to need a YUUGE bump if they're going to fund.

 ScarletRose wrote:
Or they're just doubling up on the number of sprues, I'm no expert but once the tooling is done the cost of extra sprues isn't that high.

That's what I mean, yes. It appears that each sprue is made up of a "Gear" and two drones.


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 Dream Pod 9 wrote:
All the Armiger variant parts with be included on each of Armiger Sprue and all the N-KIDU variant parts will be on the N-KIDU sprues. :-)

Huh. Interesting... so does that mean that there's one Armiger sprue and one N-KIDU sprue, from which you can make all variants? If so, you should have advertised that, because right now going by your graphics the impression is quite different.


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 warboss wrote:
I sincerely hope for backers' sakes that DP9 doesn't have to unilaterally roll back stretch goals if they hit a bump on the road down the line like they did last time. Doubling the sprues for zero additional funding (above the initial funding goal that is) leaves alot less wiggle room and might also affect international shipping costs a year from now.

No "might" about it. It will. At least for us overseas paupers. And the first KS's shipping costs were ludicruous enough...

 Albertorius wrote:

 Dream Pod 9 wrote:
All the Armiger variant parts with be included on each of Armiger Sprue and all the N-KIDU variant parts will be on the N-KIDU sprues. :-)

Huh. Interesting... so does that mean that there's one Armiger sprue and one N-KIDU sprue, from which you can make all variants? If so, you should have advertised that, because right now going by your graphics the impression is quite different.

Sounds kinda squishy and not well-documented. Maybe that's the secret stretch goal that the Pod walks back when they feth up the finances?

 Albertorius wrote:

No "might" about it. It will. At least for us overseas paupers. And the first KS's shipping costs were ludicruous enough...

This time the items are being shipped by a UK forwarder so for people in the EU the costs will be far lower.

YouKnowsIt wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

No "might" about it. It will. At least for us overseas paupers. And the first KS's shipping costs were ludicruous enough...

This time the items are being shipped by a UK forwarder so for people in the EU the costs will be far lower.

As far as I know, that was also the case with the first KS.

This is from the KS:

"A fixed shipping cost of $17 CAD for Canadian Backers, $19 CAD for United States Backers, and $47 CAD for International Backers will be charged after the Kickstarter is finished and our pledge manager website is open."

YouKnowsIt wrote:
This is from the KS:

"A fixed shipping cost of $17 CAD for Canadian Backers, $19 CAD for United States Backers, and $47 CAD for International Backers will be charged after the Kickstarter is finished and our pledge manager website is open."

Yes, and the rewards for the first kickstarter were also fixed until DP9 decided that they weren't.

 warboss wrote:

YouKnowsIt wrote:
This is from the KS:

"A fixed shipping cost of $17 CAD for Canadian Backers, $19 CAD for United States Backers, and $47 CAD for International Backers will be charged after the Kickstarter is finished and our pledge manager website is open."

Yes, and the rewards for the first kickstarter were also fixed until DP9 decided that they weren't.

This is from the first KS. You might notice there were both shipping estimates and an UK forwarder for international backers:

Well, if the KS doesn't fund it certainly won't be because their current fans won't try hard enough: yesterday was the biggest day in the KS with $6.521... but only 14 new backers.

At 15 hours to the endline they are at 92%... and I'm not sure if getting there by the skin of their teeth will be good or bad, taking into account the reward doubling they did with no changes in goals.

Those are some rather large pledges.

Still, with only $1,600ish to go they might just make it. Good luck dp9, hope you can pull it off, both in the next few hours, and over the next few months.

 Mmmpi wrote:
Those are some rather large pledges.

Still, with only $1,600ish to go they might just make it. Good luck dp9, hope you can pull it off, both in the next few hours, and over the next few months.

You do realize barely making the basic goal would be the worst case scenario for DP9, right ?

 Mmmpi wrote:
Those are some rather large pledges.

Still, with only $1,600ish to go they might just make it. Good luck dp9, hope you can pull it off, both in the next few hours, and over the next few months.

I'm assuming most of that came from the existing backers instead of those new 14 ones, actually, hence my comment about it not being for lack of trying on their part.

Actually, I'm wondering how much of that was from Dave or Rob.

 Mmmpi wrote:
Actually, I'm wondering how much of that was from Dave or Rob.

...hm. Good point.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Mmmpi wrote:
Actually, I'm wondering how much of that was from Dave or Rob.

...hm. Good point.

Chilling thought/speculation. Regardless, I wish backers the best of luck in the year(s) to come.

There's no basis for that accusation. Just as there was no basis for the shipping criticism - the last KS was estimated cost (and therefore able to change), this one is not.

A lot of us have been upping our pledges, and because you can buy anything from their online store in the pledge manager I added a second army for example.

Regarding the costs of running off a few extra sprues per backer that's peanuts, the cost is in the moulds, not the plastic. It might result in Utopia KS backers buying less stock further down the line but that doesn't cost DP9 anything in terms of achieving fulfillment.

Adding sprues does add to the cost. Not much, but there's the plastic, the wages for the person doing it. Possibly larger boxes, combined with more weight which could mean more postage.

All of that adds up. Maybe not even half the cost of a new mold, but when every cent counts, it could be an issue.

YouKnowsIt wrote:
There's no basis for that accusation. Just as there was no basis for the shipping criticism - the last KS was estimated cost (and therefore able to change), this one is not.

A lot of us have been upping our pledges, and because you can buy anything from their online store in the pledge manager I added a second army for example.

Regarding the costs of running off a few extra sprues per backer that's peanuts, the cost is in the moulds, not the plastic. It might result in Utopia KS backers buying less stock further down the line but that doesn't cost DP9 anything in terms of achieving fulfillment.

Well, I'm hoping it all works out for you guys in the end, but seeing as your flag indicates you're from the UK, if this ends up funding, could you please keep us updated on the final shipping costs for you?

For the record: Fixed shipping costs are not a positive on a KS anymore. They have been going up exponentially for the last few years, and as this KS's completion is probably more than a year away, they simply have no way of knowing how much it will end up costing them. They might decide to eat the cost... or not.

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 Mmmpi wrote:
Actually, I'm wondering how much of that was from Dave or Rob.

Probably none. Don't forget that the "Remind Me" function of KS kicks in the last 48 hours and brings people back to the project who were interested but didn't pledge. Being only 10K from the goal is probably close enough to motivate people to pledge on the hopes of crossing the threshold, or pledging some more to push it closer to the goal. You either see a spike in the last 2 days or people pull out en masse (even though it isn't necessary).

Looking forward to the Peace River KS now.

And it's funded. I admit I was a little surprised.

Looking forward to the Peace River KS now.

Me too, I'm actually looking forward to getting some Skirmishers and Pit Bulls in plastic.

Heavy Gear Blitz Utopia Kickstarter Successfully Funded!

Dream Pod 9 wants to Thank All our Backers of the Heavy Gear Blitz Utopia Armed Forces Plastic Miniatures Kickstarter for helping make it a success. The campaign raised $30,516 CAD, just over its Goal of $30K.

We had artist, John Bell, do some cute Utopia Chibi artwork for the Kickstarter, this time with soccer theme. Checkout our Chibi Thank You Artwork below, now that the Funding GOOOOAL! has been reached, Thank You All!

 Mmmpi wrote:
Actually, I'm wondering how much of that was from Dave or Rob.

Based on the funding data, probably about $5k of it.

Man you just can't stop trolling, its really sad.

A Big Thank You to all those on DakkaDakka forum that supported us and put up with all the BS that trolls post here.

I as the creator of the Kickstarter am not allowed to be a Backer of the project. We hope to run future successful Kickstarters and I'm not going to risk that by breaking Kickstarters rules. Dave, who is not the Creator, made a minimum $6 pledge so he could post comments if I was away from the computer and could not post them in a timely manner.

So, Robert, when you're quite done insulting posters, could you answer the question I made you upthread regarding the contents of the sprues?

 Dream Pod 9 wrote:
Man you just can't stop trolling, its really sad.

A Big Thank You to all those on DakkaDakka forum that supported us and put up with all the BS that trolls post here.

I as the creator of the Kickstarter am not allowed to be a Backer of the project. We hope to run future successful Kickstarters and I'm not going to risk that by breaking Kickstarters rules. Dave, who is not the Creator, made a minimum $6 pledge so he could post comments if I was away from the computer and could not post them in a timely manner.

I did support your Utopia kick starter. I supported your first one. I was planning on supporting the next one too. But if you consider what I and several other people said to be trolling, then maybe I should ask for my money back?

Seriously, this is low. Especially as most of the 'trolls' on this forum love heavy gear, and have tried to help in the past only to be rebuffed and hounded out of the DP9 forums. Yes some might have let their mouths get a bit carried away, or were acting like grognards, but seriously.




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And how hard is it to make a 2nd account and attach a paypay to it? I have a friend who did it when his wife though he was spending too much money on their shared account.

To be fair the people he is talking about did accuse him of fraud. With zero evidence.

Well, if we're being fair, they admitted to it; albeit for reasonable reasons, which makes the accusation true.