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Looks like a 3D render to me?

Hopefully the melta and chainsword can be switched out as well, for more variety.

Love the heads though! They look more rugged, and not as "royal" as the bigger Knights, which reflects the fluff pretty well. Really looking forward to seeing and hearing more about these mechs.

Look good - especially as they don't seem to "warmachine" top heavy!

Like the idea of them and hopefully this might see more info about Knight Households - it started well in the first Codex but a lot of the interesting (to me) fluff was dropped in the 2nd version.

Hopefully there is a powerfist/hand option as well as chainsword.

I do hope that the pauldrons have the cog-toothed edge as an optional bit, it would look somewhat out of place on non-cogboy aligned houses.

And yes, more fluff would be welcome! The first codex was great (well, seeing as it only had two units, it had to!), but the fluff of the second codex was subpar.

Wooooooooooow!!!!!

I wonder if this was developed during the Adeptus Titanicus process. Makes sense there'd be some crossover.

Come on then let's speculate on the stats for this thing...

I'm thinking it's got to occupy a niche between the Kastelan Robots (110 pts T7 6W 3+/5++) and the knight.

I'd guess 100pts for the chassis with no weapons, probably 200-250 depending on loadout.

Move... Anything between 10" or 14". Hopefully 14" to give them a nice ability to zip round the board. With low model count you need mobility.

3+ / 3+ to hit seems set in stone

S8 and T8 I would assume. If they make it S7 or T7 it will be awful.

At least 12 wounds... I'd guess around 14... half a knight.

3+ save is obvious, however... I can't see an ion shield on the model so I am thinking there will be no invulnerable save. Which might actually make them easier to kill than Kastelan Robots. Maybe it will have closer to 18 wounds to make up for this.

The biggest question for me is whether they will retain TITANIC keyword giving them no penalties to hit with heavy weapons and the ability to walk out of combat over enemy models, then still shoot and charge again. They have to surely otherwise they will be rubbish.

So basically my carefully crafted but ultimately predictable opinion is that they will be almost exactly half a knight for half the points. Maybe with additional wounds to make up for the lack of an invuln.

Feels like they might be strictly better than dreadnoughts like that, though.

I made an estimate comparison in size compared to a normal Imperial Knight. From one of the pictures the Armiger has a heavy phosphor blaster as a carapace weapon. Though as far as I know, there's no such picture in full profile so this is very much a rough estimate. From that picture I'd say it's around 13-13.5cm tall (5.1-5.3 inch) so I made a rough mock up how large it would be next to the knight.

As far as stats, if my guesses are at all accurate I feel like 14-16 wounds would be in the safeish ballpark It looks pretty fast with those Ironstrider-esque legs som I'm guessing a 12" move. S8 ,T8 seems about right.

I wonder if they will be heavy support or retain the LoW keyword.

The intent seems to bring them together with the Knights, but if they are no LoW they will never been in the same detachment has them

Hmmm...interesting. I wonder will we see actual infantry in the Knights codex. I hope so. I have about 80 Bretonnian Men at Arms that are just a lasrifle away from being indentured levies.

A Questor Imperialis option that allows for repairs would also be a welcome addition, in form of either Sacristans or command / repair vehicles as mentioned in the Kingsblade novel.

Hell, a stategem along the lines of the Angelic Host (a swarm of cherub-servitors flying overhead to provide tactical overview) would also be a nice addition.

So the Imperium of Men can now have their small Mecha fight the little Tau battlesuits? They steal the one thing the blue boys have going for them? This is getting Pacific Rimmed down the Tau players throats.

I think it will have the same size as the new Primaris Dread or the Kastelan Robots.

 BrookM wrote:
In the email they showed it with a different head and stubber / Ad-mech gun thing that's also on their robots:

It's a Heavy Phosphor Blaster.

I'm thinking we'll definitely see different pauldron options for Cogboy and nonCogboy.


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 BrookM wrote:
A Questor Imperialis option that allows for repairs would also be a welcome addition, in form of either Sacristans or command / repair vehicles as mentioned in the Kingsblade novel.

Hell, a stategem along the lines of the Angelic Host (a swarm of cherub-servitors flying overhead to provide tactical overview) would also be a nice addition.

I'm imagining that we'll see the Techpriest Enginseer at least as an Elite option. The Adeptus Mechanicus book has two examples of Techpriests painted up in the colors of Voss Prime and Triplex Phall.

As long as they rename the option, as Questor Imperialis do not align themselves with the AdMech willingly.

I can dig it. So now.. Do I move forward with the MechaTau army I was planning, or go with Knights instead?

Must. Buy. Big. Robots.

Banville wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. I wonder will we see actual infantry in the Knights codex. I hope so. I have about 80 Bretonnian Men at Arms that are just a lasrifle away from being indentured levies.

I was wondering about that myself; a new medieval-ish imperial infantry kit would be good for Knight levies and also serve as an additional regiment for Imperial Guard.

I used Anvil Industry Regiments stuff to make medieval-looking infantry for my Knights. They work great.

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:


I think it will have the same size as the new Primaris Dread or the Kastelan Robots.

Those two aren't very similar in size. But overall I'm expecting this one to be a slightly bigger and badder redemptor dreadnought basically

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I used Anvil Industry Regiments stuff to make medieval-looking infantry for my Knights. They work great.

Wee bit OT but do you have any pics ? the Anvil stuff is cracking

I hope for Redemptor Dreadnought levels of possability.

 Galas wrote:
I hope for Redemptor Dreadnought levels of possability.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for that. It has Ironstrider-esque legs and those are woefully unposeable.

Then I hope for Redemptor Dreadnought's torso and arms level of possability

 Galas wrote:
Then I hope for Redemptor Dreadnought's torso and arms level of possability

You'll get two carapace weapon options and like it!

Here's to hoping we get some kind of "House Guards" or militia or something in the codex.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
It's not even retconning, it's just a redesign of the old smaller Squires with a more 'modern day' aesthetic really.

Spoiler:

Until now, there has been no such thing as a distinct "Squire" Knight model. That one you posted is a Knight Lancer suit; Squire was simply the rank of the pilot (with no in-game effect, IIRC) and was depicted by a simple, single-colour paint scheme (knights used a 2-colour scheme and Wardens used more complex patterns).

You are right in that there was no distinct "Squire" model, but GW at the time seemed to have picked one of the three models used for the knights to represent a squire, one a knight, and one the Lord for some arbitrary reason. I had forgotten that this wasn't an actual statline or difference in Knight suits however so you are indeed correct. I was going off memory of older Epic things and had thought there was a "Squire Knights" esque model.



Have some Eldar Knights too, just for nostalgia's sake.

DaHedd wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I used Anvil Industry Regiments stuff to make medieval-looking infantry for my Knights. They work great.

Wee bit OT but do you have any pics ? the Anvil stuff is cracking

Nothing painted yet, but here’s a few samples:

Love 'em. I like these much better than the standard Knight kit.

And seeing these kits...can Slaaneshi Daemon Knights (Subjugators, Hell Knights, etc.) be far behind?




Well okay, I guess they can. Still, I look forward to some of the cool conversions.

I'd still love to see an Eldar Knight chassis with four legs and a lance, it has a lovely look to it.

The Armiger probably doesn't have an ion shield either, no tilting plate is present.

I'd be surprised if it lacks an Ion Shield. I could see, if it lacks that, something where it gets a "Disgustingly Resilient" equivalent or a thing of that ilk.

I'm going to be that guy, but I'm not happy because this makes me think that the rumors over the last couple years about the upcoming admech robot was just this guy instead.

Bleh.

On the plus side, I like the design at least.