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 ph34r wrote:
I'm honestly expecting Chaos Knights to get absolutely nothing from this codex, perhaps not even a FAQ to lower their price. Ok that would really suck hopefully any hull reductions they will get also. Definitely don't think they will get castellans and armigers.

We have been aware of the fact that Chaos Knights and Renegade Knights will be getting absolutely nothing for a while now. Perhaps they will get a PDF like what has come out for the Primaris Space Marines that allowed their use in the armies that didn't have codexes yet (currently only Space Wolves actually need it). That could give points values for those Knights for Renegade or Chaos Knights to be used with their packed in rules.

I would send GW a message on Facebook in the mean time.

To be honest, I don't know why they didn't allow Chaos players to use the new Knight Codex by just replacing keywords; all it does is limit the number of sales of the Codex by only offering the content to one of the two factions that could have used it. That is unless GW plan on releasing a Renegade Knights Codex.

On Facebook they mentioned that Renegade Knights would receive an update somewhere down the road.

And no doubt eventually they will get codex as well. Why sell one codex when you can sell two and some players will probably get both!

StarHunter25 wrote:
It's not a relic, its a warlord trait that just adds 1 to their invulnerable save. And the stratagem just says "pick a knight that has been targeted, improve its invuln by 1".

Oh wow, I thought it was a relic. Fair play then!! That's not very friendly at all. It will also make your Warlord next to impossible to kill, which is always handy

Looks like I'll need to pack some of those Invulnerable ignoring missiles just in case


In regards to the comment about Cawl boosting the Plasma Weapons stats with a Relic: I'm not familiar with Mechanicum so is that actually possible?

 Lord Borak wrote:

In regards to the comment about Cawl boosting the Plasma Weapons stats with a Relic: I'm not familiar with Mechanicum so is that actually possible?

Well...That would seem to be new relic in the codex so mechanicum codex is irrelevant. Doubtful any rule in knight codex requires model from other codex being included.

That or the relic is an upgraded plasma weapon a la Hellblasters gifted to the Knightly Hosts, and doesnt require Cawl. He just made it.

C'mon guys!

 Crazyterran wrote:
That or the relic is an upgraded plasma weapon a la Hellblasters gifted to the Knightly Hosts, and doesnt require Cawl. He just made it.

C'mon guys!

Um precisely my point. Relic specific to the knight codex. Cawl being on fluff side. Either way highly unlikely it requires Cawl model to be fielded on army. Is there ANY such cross codex requirement in 40k?

Where did you guys see any info on relics and warlord traits?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2018/05/40k-imperial-knights-reliquary-rumor.html

That link is essentially BOLS copy and pasting the information someone posted here a few pages ago.

so any german present?

That's German, not Dutch.

Always a chance they're saving chaos knights for the Slaanesh book whenever that is. They were the chaos knights in Epic

uh.
Appears to say:

In any turn in which you've attacked, been attacked or performed a Heroic intervention you can reroll hits. Additionally, you can reroll hits against titanic units in the fight phase.

 aracersss wrote:
so any dutch present?

Something something can heroically intervene as if it were a character something something I don't actually speak german

 Cephalobeard wrote:
uh.
Appears to say:

In any turn in which you've attacked, been attacked or performed a Heroic intervention you can reroll hits. Additionally, you can reroll hits against titanic units in the fight phase.

Yep.

Well, assault, not attack, but you know.

Cephalobeard got it right.
It seems to be an error in the FB picture that the name of the tradition is again "Firestorm protocols".

 Geifer wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
uh.
Appears to say:

In any turn in which you've attacked, been attacked or performed a Heroic intervention you can reroll hits. Additionally, you can reroll hits against titanic units in the fight phase.

Yep.

Well, assault, not attack, but you know.

0% German, typed it into google translate and did my best. Lol

 Cephalobeard wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
uh.
Appears to say:

In any turn in which you've attacked, been attacked or performed a Heroic intervention you can reroll hits. Additionally, you can reroll hits against titanic units in the fight phase.

Yep.

Well, assault, not attack, but you know.

0% German, typed it into google translate and did my best. Lol

Looks like Google is getting smarter. Used to be a time you could count on Google Translate for easy laughs. Next thing you know they'll build robots and gain access to nuclear launch codes.

Interesting to hear the Long War podcast... discussing the new combat gauge thing and Rob Baer said "spoiler alert - there's a way for knights to interact in melee with units in ruins so it's more useful than you think".

OoooOOOOooooOOO

 Silentz wrote:
Interesting to hear the Long War podcast... discussing the new combat gauge thing and Rob Baer said "spoiler alert - there's a way for knights to interact in melee with units in ruins so it's more useful than you think".

OoooOOOOooooOOO

this has always been the case, just blow up the ruin. You know what they say a bullet has your name on it, a grenade is addressed to whom it may concern, but a 20 ton power fist is just marked: public announcement

Just in case anyone doesn't know you are joking - there are no rules to blow up scenery pieces in 40k.

 ph34r wrote:
I'm honestly expecting Chaos Knights to get absolutely nothing from this codex, perhaps not even a FAQ to lower their price. Ok that would really suck hopefully any hull reductions they will get also. Definitely don't think they will get castellans and armigers.

Why would they get anything from an Imperial codex? Did CSM or Deathguard get any changes when each new loyalist marine codex came out?

 Silentz wrote:
Just in case anyone doesn't know you are joking - there are no rules to blow up scenery pieces in 40k.

correct. At least not by default. Rules exist as extra rules however. And since the ruling on ruins I’ve held that tournaments and match play should include these

 Cephalobeard wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I wonder if Imperial Knights: Renegade will also have rules for the Valiant. It already has rules for most other walking super-heavies out there.

I'm not so secretly hoping Renegades retain the ability to double down on primary weapons, so I can rock a double flamer triple auto cannon Dominus into battle.

For those pointing out that there is no reason this book will have chaos stuff just as I said, this is the post I was aimed at.

Has anyone noticed a release date for Renegades? If I want it I need to budget appropriately.

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Has anyone noticed a release date for Renegades? If I want it I need to budget appropriately.

It should be up for pre-order this weekend.