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Has the complete lists of Freeblade burdens and benefits been previewed somewhere?

 Silentz wrote:
Oh damn. So one knight in a super heavy aux detachment gets use of stratagems... but can't be a character, can't take any relics and ndoesn't get a household benefit/freeblade quality

My lone knight has a sad face. Maybe I will not buy this book after all.

if they can use strats you can make them a character and give them a trait

Klone12 wrote:
So I'm now 700€ deep in this release haha (God thanks online retailers, that -20% came in handy for me..)
I was waiting for Renegade to return for a looong time, and I can already smell the small run that will end up with the preceptor kit going for preorder at 105£ and replacing both the warden kit, the errant kit and the Renegade box.

Anyway, has anyone run the numbers for carapace weapons PPW against flyers ? I keep hearing that the IronsStorm is basically useless and the StormSpear come on top of even the Icarus on PPW against every target including what I face the most in my meta : Flyers (be it antigrav tanks, bikes, venoms... )

Where did you go to get 20% off?

 Buzzdady wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well that's a bummer. Seems that applies to freeblades as well :-/ Next I need to know if you can make all knights freeblade! If yes thats what I might go for just for laughs!

You can! I asked on the Community page and they said we’re able to.

I think the Freeblades info in the pic above is aimed at explaining how Freeblades interact with Household Traditions. It's definitely not the "full" Freeblade rules, which is probably where they let you take them in Aux Super Heavy.

Have we ever come to a consensus on whether or not we can take 2 different houses in a single lance/super heavy detachment?

I don't want the house traits, but the house specific warlord traits and the relics for imperialis vs maechanicus definitely leave me wanting to take knights of two different houses in the same detachments, probably with an armiger.

I know I'm not getting CP, but I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere that this is possible. It'd be like running ultramarines and white scars in the same detachment.

Although....CRAP now that I think about it....I don't think they share any common keywords if I take one that is a mechanicus house and one that is an imperialis house :(

All I want is the relic flamer and the relic plasma gun in the same detachment!

 Apple Peel wrote:

Klone12 wrote:
So I'm now 700€ deep in this release haha (God thanks online retailers, that -20% came in handy for me..)
I was waiting for Renegade to return for a looong time, and I can already smell the small run that will end up with the preceptor kit going for preorder at 105£ and replacing both the warden kit, the errant kit and the Renegade box.

Anyway, has anyone run the numbers for carapace weapons PPW against flyers ? I keep hearing that the IronsStorm is basically useless and the StormSpear come on top of even the Icarus on PPW against every target including what I face the most in my meta : Flyers (be it antigrav tanks, bikes, venoms... )

Where did you go to get 20% off?

Wayland Games

People still shop at Wayland?

 Buzzdady wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well that's a bummer. Seems that applies to freeblades as well :-/ Next I need to know if you can make all knights freeblade! If yes thats what I might go for just for laughs!

You can! I asked on the Community page and they said we’re able to.

You mean the Facebook? Bear in mind they have a disclaimer saying they can't actually tell us rules (basically telling us not to trust them).

That said, HOPEFULLY that statement is right. We'll know soon. It's Tuesday!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
People still shop at Wayland?

As long as the stuff is in stock they've been pretty okay and a lot cheaper for me compared to locally. If it isn't...STAY AWAY

Now the bank transfer payment option seems to be gone, though*, and my CC doesn't work with their payment provider and getting ridiculous Paypal conversion rates ticks me off, so I ordered the Renegade box domestically for more.

*whyyy

Renegade for me will be 124 bucks. 20 % off base and another 20% off order over200

gendoikari87 wrote:
Renegade for me will be 124 bucks. 20 % off base and another 20% off order over200

WHERE!!!!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
People still shop at Wayland?

Yeah, Dark Sphere or The Outpost for me. WargamesUK seems reliable once they get around to updating their site with new stuff, but they really need to work on streamlining that on the back-end; last three preorder weekends I bothered to check, they didn’t even have the stuff available by the end of Saturday, much less by 10am like everyone else.
Waylaid is just no, not after last time.

I’ve always bought from Gaming Figures, I’ve never had any problems with them.

Anyway do we know if there’s changes in the power levels I know armigers went from 12 to 9 but what about the others?

Two things:

Once again, does anyone know (or remember from last time) how long the Renegades box set will be available, i.e. should I be in a rush?

How many boxes are people buying? I failed to grab one last time so I might grab a couple this time.

 mrhappyface wrote:
Two things:

Once again, does anyone know (or remember from last time) how long the Renegades box set will be available, i.e. should I be in a rush?

How many boxes are people buying? I failed to grab one last time so I might grab a couple this time.

The question was asked and the answer, basically, was "longer than last time".

 aracersss wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Renegade for me will be 124 bucks. 20 % off base and another 20% off order over200

WHERE!!!!

flgs in Ohio


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 mrhappyface wrote:
Two things:

Once again, does anyone know (or remember from last time) how long the Renegades box set will be available, i.e. should I be in a rush?

How many boxes are people buying? I failed to grab one last time so I might grab a couple this time.

like yesterday it goes fast

gendoikari87 wrote:

 aracersss wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Renegade for me will be 124 bucks. 20 % off base and another 20% off order over200

WHERE!!!!

flgs in Ohio


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 mrhappyface wrote:
Two things:

Once again, does anyone know (or remember from last time) how long the Renegades box set will be available, i.e. should I be in a rush?

How many boxes are people buying? I failed to grab one last time so I might grab a couple this time.

like yesterday it goes fast

Yeah, I mean, jesus christ. I'd order from them and pay them to ship it to me. Lmao

 Cephalobeard wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:

 aracersss wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Renegade for me will be 124 bucks. 20 % off base and another 20% off order over200

WHERE!!!!

flgs in Ohio


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 mrhappyface wrote:
Two things:

Once again, does anyone know (or remember from last time) how long the Renegades box set will be available, i.e. should I be in a rush?

How many boxes are people buying? I failed to grab one last time so I might grab a couple this time.

like yesterday it goes fast

Yeah, I mean, jesus christ. I'd order from them and pay them to ship it to me. Lmao

dont think they are allowed to do that. They have a special deal worked out which is why I won’t give specific Ames as I’m not sure how much gw is in the know or how they managed it

I assumed as much. I've heard of a few other locations able to do the same, but are also not allowed to ship.

gendoikari87 wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:

 aracersss wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Renegade for me will be 124 bucks. 20 % off base and another 20% off order over200

WHERE!!!!

flgs in Ohio


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 mrhappyface wrote:
Two things:

Once again, does anyone know (or remember from last time) how long the Renegades box set will be available, i.e. should I be in a rush?

How many boxes are people buying? I failed to grab one last time so I might grab a couple this time.

like yesterday it goes fast

Yeah, I mean, jesus christ. I'd order from them and pay them to ship it to me. Lmao

dont think they are allowed to do that. They have a special deal worked out which is why I won’t give specific Ames as I’m not sure how much gw is in the know or how they managed it

Where in Ohio? I'm near canton, and would totally take advantage if possible.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
People still shop at Wayland?

Yeah, Dark Sphere or The Outpost for me. WargamesUK seems reliable once they get around to updating their site with new stuff, but they really need to work on streamlining that on the back-end; last three preorder weekends I bothered to check, they didn’t even have the stuff available by the end of Saturday, much less by 10am like everyone else.
Waylaid is just no, not after last time.

Wargames is super reliable and great to buy from... The problem now though, is that due to disagreements with GW and GWs way of treating and working with partners, they are no longer stocking any GW products.

It might change in the future and go back to stocking them, but, it is currently not likely (as the decision was made only a couple of months ago).

Kdash wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
People still shop at Wayland?

Yeah, Dark Sphere or The Outpost for me. WargamesUK seems reliable once they get around to updating their site with new stuff, but they really need to work on streamlining that on the back-end; last three preorder weekends I bothered to check, they didn’t even have the stuff available by the end of Saturday, much less by 10am like everyone else.
Waylaid is just no, not after last time.

Wargames is super reliable and great to buy from... The problem now though, is that due to disagreements with GW and GWs way of treating and working with partners, they are no longer stocking any GW products.

It might change in the future and go back to stocking them, but, it is currently not likely (as the decision was made only a couple of months ago).

Huh. I had no idea… explains why all the GW stuff on their site is out of stock or like one item left.

Does anyone have information about power level values for helverin and that terrain feature? I have knight Paladin painted in cadmus colours, but now I m propably changing for hawkshroud.

Terrain is 80 pts so probably pl4 but why you want that junk anyway? Knights wouldn't benefit from it even if it was free. Ironically it's better for non knight armies

Is there any info on whether FW Knights get access to the new stuff? Could I make my Lancer a Freeblade for example?

 mrhappyface wrote:
Is there any info on whether FW Knights get access to the new stuff? Could I make my Lancer a Freeblade for example?

From what I've heard the answer is "no" but there is probably going to be an errata to Imperial Armour released with the FAQ for the codex that changes this.

 mrhappyface wrote:
Is there any info on whether FW Knights get access to the new stuff? Could I make my Lancer a Freeblade for example?

No,

but in a few years time when the appropriate book is re-released they might consider it (but only if new rules have superseded them in the meantime)

I'm thinking the following for 2k points: (purchase 2 extra relics)
House Taranis: super-heavy detachment
Castellan w/ 2 shoulder cannons (Warlord w/ 4++ and Cawl's Wrath)
Warden w/ 20 pt rocketpod (with fancy avenger)
Galliant (with fancy fist)

House Taranis: aux detachment
2 Warglaves

Mechanicus Graia: Battalion
2 enginseer
3 ranger units

Seems pretty good...

 LunarSol wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:
Is there any info on whether FW Knights get access to the new stuff? Could I make my Lancer a Freeblade for example?

From what I've heard the answer is "no" but there is probably going to be an errata to Imperial Armour released with the FAQ for the codex that changes this.

Don't worry, one week and FW surely will drop some FAQ written by intern in 10 minutes allowing all Knights with zero thought to balance or fluff. You know, like standard infiltration team of all RG descendants everywhere is pair of vewy vewy quiet, wabbit hunting Leviathans or how standard Codex company consists of six Fire Raptors with Chapter Master and lieutenant standing under them waving pom poms to cheer them up. Fluffy!

What? Both units are impossibly rare relics few chapters ever saw, never mind posses one? And the SM stratagems were written with Codex units in mind, not with whatever broken gak FW put together with 2+ across the board and suite of weapons making Baneblades blush? Who cares, we need to one-up Eldar and Tau somehow, making it all okay, eh?

I have decided to adjust my Knights a little. Rather than build Gerantius, I will build the Obsidian Knight(especially since I have his transfers). Instead of a Gallant, I will build an Errant(magnetized to take all the Carapace weapons). I will still build my two Wardens with Thunderstrike Gauntlets and Stormspear Rocket Pods(magnetized for everything though), and a Knight Valiant with two Siegebreaker Cannons and two Siegebreaker Missiles.

I can always swap the Errant's Thermal Cannon for one of the Warden's Thunderstrike Gauntlets and have a Gallant and a Crusader.