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Well, off to preorder 2 from my FLGS. I figure 2 and an Acastus can be my heavy support battlegroup.

I do suspect a shockingly large MSRP on that. What's the Knight w/ add-ons now? $140 or so? Whoa, $157...so this'll be really up there I'd assume.

At the very least the same $157 pricetag, but I have to imagine even more. Really pushing on that pricetag for a plastic miniature.

I just want to know one thing: will the new knight and/or the new Knight codex be able to be fielded as Renegades?

I'm thinking "No" at this point.

They called it "Imperial Knights" again.

 Elbows wrote:
I do suspect a shockingly large MSRP on that. What's the Knight w/ add-ons now? $140 or so? Whoa, $157...so this'll be really up there I'd assume.

At the very least the same $157 pricetag, but I have to imagine even more. Really pushing on that pricetag for a plastic miniature.

It should be the same number of sprues or so as the Warden kit now- It's the same size, the main difference is a wider upper carapace with additional secondary weapon mounts.

 mrhappyface wrote:
I just want to know one thing: will the new knight and/or the new Knight codex be able to be fielded as Renegades?

I'm holding out hope for a 'Renegade Household' tactic set but I'm not holding my breath.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:
I just want to know one thing: will the new knight and/or the new Knight codex be able to be fielded as Renegades?

I'm holding out hope for a 'Renegade Household' tactic set but I'm not holding my breath.

In a perfect world Chaos would have its own unique Knight frames. In the real world I wouldn't get your hopes up for anything more than a Chapter approved update.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:
I just want to know one thing: will the new knight and/or the new Knight codex be able to be fielded as Renegades?

I'm holding out hope for a 'Renegade Household' tactic set but I'm not holding my breath.

Ditto - it seems like it would be really simple to do, and open up the models to loads of extra players. Sadly, I suspect I'll be continuing to use the chaos index and my current knight, while the imperial players get all the new toys!

 SirDonlad wrote:
My word, the knight pilots have west-country accents!

I’d have said more Norn Iron myself...

Agree with others that there’s something about the turrets that doesn’t quite gel, but other than that it’s quite an impressive beastie. I might crack sooner than I expected!

 mrhappyface wrote:
I just want to know one thing: will the new knight and/or the new Knight codex be able to be fielded as Renegades?

And I'm interested on the 30k side of things.

IMO its a case of when, not if for 30k rules. FW love themselves some Knights but the HH series does seem to be on a sabbatical at the moment.

Total speculation but now that non melta energy weapons have entered the GW Knight arsenal could we see more options for the Paladin frame in the future? Possibly a Warden style sprue with some plasma and Las based weapons?

I doubt it, the Warden kit as is already has all options for five variants of armour.

I'm hoping that the Castellan will be in the same price bracket as the Warden, but with only one option included in the box.

To be honest the new Castellan is a big improvement from the old one

I just hope they let you take two big gatling cannons on your Knights. It looks awesome.

YES, WE NEED THIS, heavy flamer tax be damned:

 Galas wrote:
To be honest the new Castellan is a big improvement from the old one

While it's fun to poke fun at the old models...at least they were different. I was really hoping more Knights would be substantially different instead of arm/shoulder swaps. I would have liked to see a much more distinct new box. I know the FW ones are vastly different, but a vastly different plastic kit would have been much preferred.

 Elbows wrote:

 Galas wrote:
To be honest the new Castellan is a big improvement from the old one

While it's fun to poke fun at the old models...at least they were different. I was really hoping more Knights would be substantially different instead of arm/shoulder swaps. I would have liked to see a much more distinct new box. I know the FW ones are vastly different, but a vastly different plastic kit would have been much preferred.

I must admit this pretty much sums things up for me too. The new knight is very nice and a welcome opportunity to add some heavier firepower without buying a porphyion but it would have been nice to see a distinctive new design. Hopefully there will be other bits and pieces to come from the knight faction too!

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I want. I will have two regular Knights, two Armiger Knights, and one of these big guys. That will make for a pretty nice Knight army.

Make it three Armigers and you net yourself 6 CPs.

I plan on doing this as well - hoping it slots into 2000 pts!

Love the new Knight. Hoping there's something bigger to come - in betweek IK and Warhound perhaps

I wonder how compatible this kit with be with the current one. Such as the legs, if the armour plates join in the same way then it would be able to swap the mechanical parts between the two in order to add variation to them.

Also hoping this one has some weapon options, and not the one loadout like the mini knights in forgebane.

rivers3162 wrote:
The new knight is very nice and a welcome opportunity to add some heavier firepower without buying a porphyion but it would have been nice to see a distinctive new design.

I love it. Yes, it does look quite similar but the differences are more significant than just tacking on sponsons and calling it a day.

 Galas wrote:
To be honest the new Castellan is a big improvement from the old one

Minor point of order, Galas, but you're conflating two different types of Epic Knight there - the ones on the left were Crusaders, the ones on the right are the Castellans.

I look forward to seeing how much bigger and bulkier it is than a standard imperial knight. It’s hard to tell compared only to the armigers.

If you take a look at the two pictures below the Armiger seems to come up to about the same point on the head for both of its bigger brothers if you use the right hand Armiger in the bottom photo:



I suspect both Knights are sharing the same leg.

The new one uses the same frame as the old knight just has extra/different armoured parts

 CURNOW wrote:
The new one uses the same frame as the old knight just has extra/different armoured parts

The back of the frame is a little différent also (two generators instead of one) and seems a little higher.
But yeah it should be nearly the same size.

Lets see how much of the forgebane stuff I have time to paint before I need to get myself one or two of that knight. Its a bit busy but overall I really like it.

The legs might be the same, but it's some pretty extensive remodelling over the original design.

I read a post by someone who has first hand info but wants to be anonymous/not being quoted in fear of loosing his job that these legs are not the Paladin's and he is actually a bit larger than the former kit (overall size, post was not specifically about the legs). Looks like there will be three frames/chassis: Paladin - Armiger - 'Castellan'. I may have missed it, was that name confirmed already?

GoatboyBeta wrote:
In a perfect world Chaos would have its own unique Knight frames.

*cough*